will the self hatred of the wests left wing eventually collapse our empire?

[Anler]

3 minutes ago, ZR800efi said:

i think 2 years in the workforce is a good idea before jumping into post secondary education of any kind.

learn what its like to work your ass off and still be broke, youll apply yourself when you go back to school for trades and degrees It would most likely impact your choices in such as well .

wont be so quick to blow 140 k on a mastrers in art ' when you know theres no jobs waiting in the real world.

alot of kids use university / college as a way to hold off growing up and remaining children a little while longer via loans or there parents hard earned money, and never get anything tangible out of it.

My son starts his first year of college this fall. After 10 weeks they throw him into the field as an intern to see if they are 1. cut out for it and 2. Are even going to want to pursue it. I thought the was pretty good way of going about it. But he is also going to a private school and not a state school. 

[Highmark]

Can't be said better than this.   Watch as the summer goes on racism and other forms of bigotry will get the lefts top billing.  The fight at the local school boards is as important to America's survival as any.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/what-critical-race-theory-is-really-about/

Critical race theory is fast becoming America’s new institutional orthodoxy. Yet most Americans have never heard of it — and of those who have, many don’t understand it. This must change. We need to know what it is so we can know how to fight it.

To explain critical race theory, it helps to begin with a brief history of Marxism.

Originally, the Marxist left built its political program on the theory of class conflict. Karl Marx believed that the primary characteristic of industrial societies was the imbalance of power between capitalists and workers. The solution to that imbalance, according to Marx, was revolution: The workers would eventually gain consciousness of their plight, seize the means of production, overthrow the capitalist class and usher in a new socialist society.

During the 20th century, a number of regimes underwent Marxist-style revolutions, and each ended in disaster. Socialist governments in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, Cuba and elsewhere racked up a body count of nearly 100 million people. They are remembered for gulags, show trials, executions and mass starvations. In practice, Marx’s ideas unleashed man’s darkest brutalities.

By the mid-1960s, Marxist intellectuals in the West had begun to acknowledge these failures. They recoiled at revelations of Soviet atrocities and came to realize that workers’ revolutions would never occur in Western Europe or the United States, which had large middle classes and rapidly improving standards of living. Americans in particular had never developed a sense of class consciousness or class division. Most Americans believed in the American dream — the idea that they could transcend their origins through education, hard work and good citizenship.

 But rather than abandon their political project, Marxist scholars in the West simply adapted their revolutionary theory to the social and racial unrest of the 1960s. Abandoning Marx’s economic dialectic of capitalists and workers, they substituted race for class and sought to create a revolutionary coalition of the dispossessed based on racial and ethnic categories

But the radical left has proved resilient and enduring — which is where critical race theory comes in.

Critical race theory is an academic discipline, formulated in the 1990s and built on the intellectual framework of identity-based Marxism. Relegated for many years to universities and obscure academic journals, it has increasingly become the default ideology in our public institutions over the past decade. It has been injected into government agencies, public school systems, teacher training programs and corporate human resources departments in the form of diversity training programs, human resources modules, public policy frameworks and school curricula.

Its supporters deploy a series of euphemisms to describe critical race theory, including “equity,” “social justice,” “diversity and inclusion” and “culturally responsive teaching.”
Critical race theorists, masters of language construction, realize that “neo-Marxism” would be a hard sell. Equity, on the other hand, sounds nonthreatening and is easily confused with the American principle of equality. But the distinction is vast and important. Indeed, critical race theorists explicitly reject equality — the principle proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence, defended in the Civil War and codified into law with the 14th and 15th Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. To them, equality represents “mere nondiscrimination” and provides “camouflage” for white supremacy, patriarchy and oppression.

In contrast to equality, equity as defined and promoted by critical race theorists is little more than reformulated Marxism. In the name of equity, UCLA law professor and critical race theorist Cheryl Harris has proposed suspending private property rights, seizing land and wealth and redistributing them along racial lines.

Critical race guru Ibram X. Kendi, who directs the Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University, has proposed the creation of a federal Department of Antiracism. This department would be independent of (i.e., unaccountable to) the elected branches of government and would have the power to nullify, veto or abolish any law at any level of government and curtail the speech of political leaders and others deemed insufficiently “antiracist.”

One practical result of the creation of such a department would be the overthrow of capitalism, since, according to Kendi, “in order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anticapitalist.”

In other words, identity is the means; Marxism is the end.

An equity-based form of government would mean the end not only of private property but also of individual rights, equality under the law, federalism and freedom of speech. These would be replaced by race-based redistribution of wealth, group-based rights, active discrimination and omnipotent bureaucratic authority.

Historically, the accusation of “anti-Americanism” has been overused. But in this case, it’s not a matter of interpretation: Critical race theory prescribes a revolutionary program that would overturn the principles of the Declaration and destroy the remaining structure of the Constitution

What does critical race theory look like in practice? Last year, I authored a series of reports focused on critical race theory in the federal government. The FBI was holding workshops on intersectionality theory. The Department of Homeland Security was telling white employees that they were committing “microinequities” and had been “socialized into oppressor roles.” The Treasury Department held a training session telling staff members that “virtually all white people contribute to racism” and that they must convert “everyone in the federal government” to the ideology of “antiracism.” And the Sandia National Laboratories, which design America’s nuclear arsenal, sent white male executives to a three-day re-education camp where they were told that “white male culture” was analogous to the “KKK,” “white supremacists” and “mass killings.” The executives were then forced to renounce their “white male privilege” and to write letters of apology to fictitious women and people of color.

This year, I produced another series of reports focused on critical race theory in education. In Cupertino, Calif., an elementary school forced first-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities and rank themselves according to their “power and privilege.” In Springfield, Mo., a middle school forced teachers to locate themselves on an “oppression matrix,” based on the idea that straight, white, English-speaking, Christian males are members of the oppressor class and must atone for their privilege and “covert white supremacy.”

In Philadelphia, an elementary school forced fifth-graders to celebrate “Black communism” and simulate a Black Power rally to free 1960s radical Angela Davis from prison, where she had once been held on charges of murder. And in Seattle, the school district told white teachers that they are guilty of “spirit murder” against black children and must “bankrupt [their] privilege in acknowledgment of [their] thieved inheritance.”
I’m just one investigative journalist, but I’ve developed a database of more than 1,000 of these stories. When I say that critical race theory is becoming the operating ideology of our public institutions, I am not exaggerating — from the universities to bureaucracies to K-12 school systems, critical race theory has permeated the collective intelligence and decision-making process of American government, with no sign of slowing down.

[Rod]

2 hours ago, Anler said:

They left is turning into a bunch of incompetent, lazy, entitled pussies. Gimme this, pay my bills, recognize my mental illness as normal, do what I say or you are a racist and a nazi, deplatform everyone I dont like... Get rid of all of the people who are actually doing the work in this country and see how long they last. Ive been a union contractor for 30 years and youd think union members and tradesmen would be staunch democrats, let me tell you they arent anymore.

Yup seen a big swing with them with trump 

 

union nerds wanted more for less and now the radical left wants what they got for nothing. Union nerds aren’t going to give that up 

[Anler]

4 minutes ago, ACE said:

Yup seen a big swing with them with trump 

 

union nerds wanted more for less and now the radical left wants what they got for nothing. Union nerds aren’t going to give that up 

It started way before Trump. I started to notice it during Clinton second term, even tho in hindsight the Clinton years were pretty good for us. 

In 2016 the union was pounding the phones asking guys to vote for Hillary and other democrats and the union president told me that like 90% of the guys they called said "Fuck you Im voting for Trump" 

[Rod]

22 minutes ago, Anler said:

It started way before Trump. I started to notice it during Clinton second term, even tho in hindsight the Clinton years were pretty good for us. 

In 2016 the union was pounding the phones asking guys to vote for Hillary and other democrats and the union president told me that like 90% of the guys they called said "Fuck you Im voting for Trump" 

I wonder why when the dems entire platform is that every white male is human trash and their lives need to be more expensive 

[Anler]

52 minutes ago, ACE said:

I wonder why when the dems entire platform is that every white male is human trash and their lives need to be more expensive 

Well the majority of our members are hispanic...

[irv]

3 hours ago, ZR800efi said:

is it really the hillbillys and kkk guys doing all the damage these days though or would you say the woke ideology is causing more of it in 2022'?

 

the 'white supremacy ' problem i keep hearing about on cnn but never hear or see any evidence of in real life, seems like a deversion at this point in time.

 

maybe if it was the 50's , then sure.,

Exactly what it is. The Liberals and their funded media blow it all out of proportion making it much larger than what it actually is so they can come in and save the day and say, hey everyone, look at us, aren't we great. 

[Rod]

10 minutes ago, Anler said:

Well the majority of our members are hispanic...

And they hate radical leftist identity politics 

[Jimmy Snacks]

4 hours ago, Anler said:

They left is turning into a bunch of incompetent, lazy, entitled pussies. Gimme this, pay my bills, recognize my mental illness as normal, do what I say or you are a racist and a nazi, deplatform everyone I dont like... Get rid of all of the people who are actually doing the work in this country and see how long they last. Ive been a union contractor for 30 years and youd think union members and tradesmen would be staunch democrats, let me tell you they arent anymore.

Yeah I can’t see those IBEW guys I worked around in the early 90’s supporting the Dems of today. 

[motonoggin]

Imagine thinking liberals are "the left"...

[Crnr2Crnr]

7 hours ago, Anler said:

Fully agree. Both sides are probably mostly boomers too

IDK, lot of fucked up young people with gender identity and gun luvin KKK ideologies 

Not sure how we're ever going to get back to common fucking sense and common fucking courtesy again.  

[ZR800efi]

7 hours ago, Highmark said:

Can't be said better than this.   Watch as the summer goes on racism and other forms of bigotry will get the lefts top billing.  The fight at the local school boards is as important to America's survival as any.

 

https://nypost.com/2021/05/06/what-critical-race-theory-is-really-about/

Critical race theory is fast becoming America’s new institutional orthodoxy. Yet most Americans have never heard of it — and of those who have, many don’t understand it. This must change. We need to know what it is so we can know how to fight it.

To explain critical race theory, it helps to begin with a brief history of Marxism.

Originally, the Marxist left built its political program on the theory of class conflict. Karl Marx believed that the primary characteristic of industrial societies was the imbalance of power between capitalists and workers. The solution to that imbalance, according to Marx, was revolution: The workers would eventually gain consciousness of their plight, seize the means of production, overthrow the capitalist class and usher in a new socialist society.

During the 20th century, a number of regimes underwent Marxist-style revolutions, and each ended in disaster. Socialist governments in the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, Cuba and elsewhere racked up a body count of nearly 100 million people. They are remembered for gulags, show trials, executions and mass starvations. In practice, Marx’s ideas unleashed man’s darkest brutalities.

By the mid-1960s, Marxist intellectuals in the West had begun to acknowledge these failures. They recoiled at revelations of Soviet atrocities and came to realize that workers’ revolutions would never occur in Western Europe or the United States, which had large middle classes and rapidly improving standards of living. Americans in particular had never developed a sense of class consciousness or class division. Most Americans believed in the American dream — the idea that they could transcend their origins through education, hard work and good citizenship.

 But rather than abandon their political project, Marxist scholars in the West simply adapted their revolutionary theory to the social and racial unrest of the 1960s. Abandoning Marx’s economic dialectic of capitalists and workers, they substituted race for class and sought to create a revolutionary coalition of the dispossessed based on racial and ethnic categories

But the radical left has proved resilient and enduring — which is where critical race theory comes in.

Critical race theory is an academic discipline, formulated in the 1990s and built on the intellectual framework of identity-based Marxism. Relegated for many years to universities and obscure academic journals, it has increasingly become the default ideology in our public institutions over the past decade. It has been injected into government agencies, public school systems, teacher training programs and corporate human resources departments in the form of diversity training programs, human resources modules, public policy frameworks and school curricula.

Its supporters deploy a series of euphemisms to describe critical race theory, including “equity,” “social justice,” “diversity and inclusion” and “culturally responsive teaching.”
Critical race theorists, masters of language construction, realize that “neo-Marxism” would be a hard sell. Equity, on the other hand, sounds nonthreatening and is easily confused with the American principle of equality. But the distinction is vast and important. Indeed, critical race theorists explicitly reject equality — the principle proclaimed in the Declaration of Independence, defended in the Civil War and codified into law with the 14th and 15th Amendments, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. To them, equality represents “mere nondiscrimination” and provides “camouflage” for white supremacy, patriarchy and oppression.

In contrast to equality, equity as defined and promoted by critical race theorists is little more than reformulated Marxism. In the name of equity, UCLA law professor and critical race theorist Cheryl Harris has proposed suspending private property rights, seizing land and wealth and redistributing them along racial lines.

Critical race guru Ibram X. Kendi, who directs the Center for Antiracist Research at Boston University, has proposed the creation of a federal Department of Antiracism. This department would be independent of (i.e., unaccountable to) the elected branches of government and would have the power to nullify, veto or abolish any law at any level of government and curtail the speech of political leaders and others deemed insufficiently “antiracist.”

One practical result of the creation of such a department would be the overthrow of capitalism, since, according to Kendi, “in order to truly be antiracist, you also have to truly be anticapitalist.”

In other words, identity is the means; Marxism is the end.

An equity-based form of government would mean the end not only of private property but also of individual rights, equality under the law, federalism and freedom of speech. These would be replaced by race-based redistribution of wealth, group-based rights, active discrimination and omnipotent bureaucratic authority.

Historically, the accusation of “anti-Americanism” has been overused. But in this case, it’s not a matter of interpretation: Critical race theory prescribes a revolutionary program that would overturn the principles of the Declaration and destroy the remaining structure of the Constitution

What does critical race theory look like in practice? Last year, I authored a series of reports focused on critical race theory in the federal government. The FBI was holding workshops on intersectionality theory. The Department of Homeland Security was telling white employees that they were committing “microinequities” and had been “socialized into oppressor roles.” The Treasury Department held a training session telling staff members that “virtually all white people contribute to racism” and that they must convert “everyone in the federal government” to the ideology of “antiracism.” And the Sandia National Laboratories, which design America’s nuclear arsenal, sent white male executives to a three-day re-education camp where they were told that “white male culture” was analogous to the “KKK,” “white supremacists” and “mass killings.” The executives were then forced to renounce their “white male privilege” and to write letters of apology to fictitious women and people of color.

This year, I produced another series of reports focused on critical race theory in education. In Cupertino, Calif., an elementary school forced first-graders to deconstruct their racial and sexual identities and rank themselves according to their “power and privilege.” In Springfield, Mo., a middle school forced teachers to locate themselves on an “oppression matrix,” based on the idea that straight, white, English-speaking, Christian males are members of the oppressor class and must atone for their privilege and “covert white supremacy.”

In Philadelphia, an elementary school forced fifth-graders to celebrate “Black communism” and simulate a Black Power rally to free 1960s radical Angela Davis from prison, where she had once been held on charges of murder. And in Seattle, the school district told white teachers that they are guilty of “spirit murder” against black children and must “bankrupt [their] privilege in acknowledgment of [their] thieved inheritance.”
I’m just one investigative journalist, but I’ve developed a database of more than 1,000 of these stories. When I say that critical race theory is becoming the operating ideology of our public institutions, I am not exaggerating — from the universities to bureaucracies to K-12 school systems, critical race theory has permeated the collective intelligence and decision-making process of American government, with no sign of slowing down.

you know, i always passively thought of crt and marxism being active in the system over here as kinda blown out of proportion and not a tangible thing id ever encounter in my real life outside of the internet.

 

 

well, earlier this year, myself and co workers got mandated to attend ' respectful workplace training'.alright, wtf ever.lets get this over with.eyeroll.

 

so this clearly far left university graduate and master of nonsense starts off the 'training' by demanding we all stand up individually, state our job title department, and how many years of service, along with our name and where we were from.....annnddd..drumroll please ..our pronouns.

 

when it came my turn, i stood up stated my name, where i was from , department etc then sat back down. missey gave me the death glare, so i said oh, my pronouns are normal , and oldschool' and sat back down . rubbed her wrong immediately lol.

 

so after 2 hours of nonsense she goes on about unequalitry among our respective departments in regards to pay,and how its not fair. this then led into her going off on a 20 min rant how she believes marxism is the way to go' . i looked at my buddy and started to laugh ' this loon is seriously trying to preach marxism to us now ...wtf does this have to do with respectful workplace ?'

 

at this point a few oldschool guys that been there 35 years and up and age piped up, one guy in particular, spoke up and said ' listen miss,im all for respect in the work place, but dont stand up there and preach communism to us for 3 hours.my grandfather and many others grandfathers sitting here gave there lives to protect us from this nonsense, so show us and them respect and keep your political opinions to yourself ..'

 

i fucking clapped and said real loud ' atta fucking boy.amen '

 

the meeting was over shortly after and missey still hates me to this day. 

 

the old guy was right though.dont mandate us to listen to your marxist bullshit. fuck outta here lady.

[ZR800efi]

53 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

IDK, lot of fucked up young people with gender identity and gun luvin KKK ideologies 

Not sure how we're ever going to get back to common fucking sense and common fucking courtesy again.  

gun lovers and the kkk are not mutually exclusive. 

 

i agree though.common sense is due for a comeback. people treat words as if there magic and ignore context completely.

 

common courtesy would also be nice to see. I dont know when debate died, but i miss it.not everyone that dont agree with you hates you. thats something the young generations can't grasp.

[Snake]

41 minutes ago, ZR800efi said:

gun lovers and the kkk are not mutually exclusive. 

 

i agree though.common sense is due for a comeback. people treat words as if there magic and ignore context completely.

 

common courtesy would also be nice to see. I dont know when debate died, but i miss it.not everyone that dont agree with you hates you. thats something the young generations can't grasp.

I don't even mind someone making a joke or taking a jab an an opinion... that's no biggie. It's when (usually the last line of the post... like it's punctuation) there has to be a personal hit.

Been arguing about blacks and crime for God's sake, but it was kept civil (minus a couple N bombs) and still no personal attacks from him or me.

I dunno... I guess some guys get aroused when they pull off a post like that...

[spin_dry]

When there’s a political party that’s willing to reverse the certified vote of the people, democracy is done. Thanks trump!!  Your rotten piece of shit. 

[Rigid1]

3 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

When there’s a political party that’s willing to reverse the certified vote of the people, democracy is done. Thanks trump!!  Your rotten piece of shit. 

[spin_dry]

5 minutes ago, Rigid1 said:

That would be trump and his followers. 

[Jimmy Snacks]

2 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

That would be trump and his followers. 

[ZR800efi]

15 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

When there’s a political party that’s willing to reverse the certified vote of the people, democracy is done. Thanks trump!!  Your rotten piece of shit. 

yes, cause the democratic party didn't run false impeachment attempts for the full term trump was in and are even now still trying ?

 

RUSSIAN COLUSION !! next on cnn ....

[Snake]

5 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

We have reached peak TDS folks....

[spin_dry]

3 minutes ago, ZR800efi said:

yes, cause the democratic party didn't run false impeachment attempts for the full term trump was in and are even now still trying ?

 

RUSSIAN COLUSION !! next on cnn ....

If the tables were turned and it was the Dems trying to overturn a certified vote, Dem voters would be supporting the same lie. It's called identity politics. There's no difference between the GOP or DNC and the morons who worship their leaders. It's really quite pathetic. 

[ZR800efi]

2 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

If the tables were turned and it was the Dems trying to overturn a certified vote, Dem voters would be supporting the same lie. It's called identity politics. There's no difference between the GOP or DNC and the morons who worship their leaders. It's really quite pathetic. 

the democrats stole that shit though.lets be real.

[ZR800efi]

lol emoji all ya like, 

 

81 million votes huh?this guy ? LOL....ok....

 

behold...the most popular president ever in us history...

 

eat your heart out jfk.

 

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by ZR800efi

[Snake]

Now certified as worst president ever...

[Rigid1]

49 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

That would be trump and his followers. 

Lol, you crack me up