Anler Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, racinfarmer said: Well, I think Cat had first EFI, and batteryless EFI too. And that whole slide rail suspension thing. Maybe so, but like Dave said they were still less efficient than the carbed doos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, Anler said: Tell you what... Sure was nice when you only needed to fill up every other stop while riding with your cat buddies... You should pinch the flipper harder. Mine did get better gas mileage but not that much where I would skip a fill up chance. Now oil....yeah....it sipped it. But I didn't care about any of that. PERFORMANCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, Anler said: Of course you do. We are talking about who introduced what first here bonehead. 3 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: Well, I think Cat had first EFI, and batteryless EFI too. And that whole slide rail suspension thing. 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Maybe so, but like Dave said they were still less efficient than the carbed doos. Wait, WTF are we talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, racinfarmer said: Wait, WTF are we talking about here? How Doo is the industry leader in innovation and efficiency... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 Just now, racinfarmer said: Wait, WTF are we talking about here? Why introduce something if it isnt better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I'm going to have the shipping department at work get a quote drafted up for goal post moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: I'm going to have the shipping department at work get a quote drafted up for goal post moving. Maybe you should just buy a skidoo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: Well, I think Cat had first EFI, and batteryless EFI too. And that whole slide rail suspension thing. a arms u know those things poo and doo guys told me were no better than the trailing arms for over a decade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: a arms u know those things poo and doo guys told me were no better than the trailing arms for over a decade I'll give a arms to cat. Bravo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 30 minutes ago, Dave said: Why introduce something if it isnt better? STFU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 25, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 850, 800, Direct Injection....blah, blah,blah......all this big talk doesn't amount to doodly squat without any fucking snow! Edited January 25, 2017 by Biggie Smails Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 15 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: 850, 800, Direct Injection....blah, blah,blah......all this big talk doesn't amount to doodly squat without any fucking snow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Dave said: Carbed doos were still much better on fuel and oil then efi cats. and the crank resellers loved that about them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 3 hours ago, f7ben said: What people are missing about this new Axys chassis sled is its overwhelming response to body english and positioning. If you sit back on the seat just 6" the sled will lift the skis at will .....if you sit forward on the sled it is impossible to lift a ski. This is the single biggest advance in sled technology since rider forward and people who havent ridden one are missing out. The axys chassis may be as large of an advance as the rev chassis was. Its that good. The ergos on this sled are second to none .....the ease of movement on the sled etc etc. Its better than anything I have ridden. Now I have not ridden the new G4 but I sat on it and while its good its not Axys good. The cat and yamaha are miles behind here. Also the r-motion is a great trail suspension but it does not offer the same transfer and response to body positioning the the Axys does. You just described a 13 year old F7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I wish they would bring back the XF 700 . Mine has like 12 k on it and I'm thinking about replacing it. Fucker burns some oil, maybe that's why it has never been apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Anler said: Maybe so, but like Dave said they were still less efficient than the carbed doos. what are u a fucking Prius driver. I have never bought a toy biased on if it was fuel efficient. always on power and cat usually won in that dept and had better suspension and had no carbs to drain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Dave said: Why introduce something if it isnt better? I don't know ask doo they have done it many many times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Woodtick said: I wish they would bring back the XF 700 . Mine has like 12 k on it and I'm thinking about replacing it. Fucker burns some oil, maybe that's why it has never been apart. I loved that sled. 2nd best 2stroke ever put in a sled red head 3 cyl being 1st . also that crossfire sure started a trend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: I loved that sled. 2nd best 2stroke ever put in a sled red head 3 cyl being 1st . also that crossfire sure started a trend Road my red head for a few hours over the weekend. It wasn't liking the warm humid weather,but still pulled strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 19 minutes ago, Mainecat said: You just described a 13 year old F7 not even remotely close .....you could take the transfer blocks out of an f7 and it wouldnt transfer as much weight as an axys and you could crank them up all the way and loosen the fts and an f7 would not stay as planted as an axys with just a small weight shift. Its absurd that you think I would rave about something that was not so dramatic. To get a standard skid to transfer weight well there are compromises made elsewhere and to get one to plant the front means sacrificing as well. That is not the case with the poo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 20 minutes ago, Woodtick said: I wish they would bring back the XF 700 . Mine has like 12 k on it and I'm thinking about replacing it. Fucker burns some oil, maybe that's why it has never been apart. I loved that chassis after I added a mountain seat .....but its downfall was the performance killing diamond drive. They fucked a whole generation of sleds with that abortion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Sal Rosenberg said: STFU Do you even ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, f7ben said: ..but its downfall was the performance killing diamond drive. They fucked a whole generation of sleds with that abortion I disagree . the 07 08 DD with reverse was shit . the 04 to 06 DD was a great drive a 5 pinion ever 4 000 mi so what 180 bucks every 3 yrs ?the 9 to 11 was also good for the duration if u but a better bearing in the top. for a deep snow sled it was a great system kept all the mass low in the chassis. hell I would rather had a DD in my 14 than the 1/2 ass chain case in it now . like I said the first 3 yrs drives were actually built by bdx I think after that I think they cat just paid a per unit cat manufactured fee to bdx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 24 minutes ago, f7ben said: I loved that chassis after I added a mountain seat .....but its downfall was the performance killing diamond drive. They fucked a whole generation of sleds with that abortion Thats anothing they invemted that didnt make a sled better. Edited January 25, 2017 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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