DriftBusta Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: but the school of hard knocks most of us learned at is still a great institution well exactly. Its a long story, but has to do with my brother, who's an anti maintenance guru these days. Sal Rosenburg knows who I mean. He used to take shit apart just to see how it worked. It didn't always go back together the same way it came apart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: well exactly. Its a long story, but has to do with my brother, who's an anti maintenance guru these days. Sal Rosenburg knows who I mean. He used to take shit apart just to see how it worked. It didn't always go back together the same way it came apart sometimes it goes back together better 1!!!!!!!!!!1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 16 minutes ago, f7ben said: sometimes it goes back together better 1!!!!!!!!!!1 not when you're 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 35 minutes ago, Dave said: So cat expected them to sell... no the old leadership did not care if they sold just as long as they were built and shipped it helped the stock . and that is why he was shown the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 36 minutes ago, Dave said: I got just over 60 in today before the cat in our group blew a belt and took out his bellypan....get.some more riding in tomorrow. bet he was wising they worked that deal with BDX ha . my 14 was decent but not great needed about 4 hrs of dinking around to get alignment spot on . I only rode it 1 weekend when I bought it so had all summer to play around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 On 1/23/2017 at 10:43 PM, Sal Rosenberg said: Only issue that I see with a turbo for you Vin is the lack of usable fuel capacity (9.9) on a quebec trip . Probly a non issue but I would think that motor is gonna get thirsty at high speed , probly ok during the day when plenty of fuel stops are open but at night ?? Other than that it may be the perfect sled for up there . Maybe you should get the 137 and use the extra tunnel space for a 4.5 gallon Pantera auxillary tank I've already thought about how to install one and making it look factory I don't get the 9.9 tank, but the MPG on the Turbo should be pretty good if you keep it under 70 mph. I would for sure get the 137 and I would do just like I doing on my next trip with my 600 and that is put two Rotopax in a saddlebag and ratchet strap it to the sled. If you look at my tunnel I have an aluminum rack that holds an Arctic Cat Ogio bag (it's the bomb wheeling your stuff into a hotel at night) that I strap down, then I have the saddlebags that go over the back of the seat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: I don't get the 9.9 tank, but the MPG on the Turbo should be pretty good if you keep it under 70 mph. I would for sure get the 137 and I would do just like I doing on my next trip with my 600 and that is put two Rotopax in a saddlebag and ratchet strap it to the sled. If you look at my tunnel I have an aluminum rack that holds an Arctic Cat Ogio bag (it's the bomb wheeling your stuff into a hotel at night) that I strap down, then I have the saddlebags that go over the back of the seat. With all the negatives that go along with a turbo....now you're saying keep it below 70 for good gas mileage....isnt the point of having a turbo is to go fast? Youre a riot Vince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 26 minutes ago, Dave said: With all the negatives that go along with a turbo....now you're saying keep it below 70 for good gas mileage....isnt the point of having a turbo is to go fast? Youre a riot Vince. What negatives besides the Yammies blowing belts? A Turbo on big wide Northern Ontario, Quebec, and UP trails is going to use less fuel cruising at 70 than a two stroke does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: What negatives besides the Yammies blowing belts? A Turbo on big wide Northern Ontario, Quebec, and UP trails is going to use less fuel cruising at 70 than a two stroke does 70 is dam fast even in Quebec where the speed limit is lower and in most places and enforced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: What negatives besides the Yammies blowing belts? A Turbo on big wide Northern Ontario, Quebec, and UP trails is going to use less fuel cruising at 70 than a two stroke does Not a poo or a doo it wont. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I see Textron bought Arctic Cat. They used to own Polaris at one time,it will be interesting to see what they do with the company in the coming years. They got the money that's for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Ebsell said: I see Textron bought Arctic Cat. They used to own Polaris at one time,it will be interesting to see what they do with the company in the coming years. They got the money that's for sure They have a rep for buying companies and running then into the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: They have a rep for buying companies and running then into the ground They cant go any lower with Cat...Maybe they are turning over a new leaf this time. Edited January 25, 2017 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 48 minutes ago, Sal Rosenberg said: They have a rep for buying companies and running then into the ground Cat probably has something they can use. That way they don't get sued for patent infringement. But who knows. Getting into the motorsports market seems risky these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 26, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 22 hours ago, racinfarmer said: Dealers who could sell 20-30 sleds a year suddenly having to take 50-60-75 sleds a year and have a larger floor plan for PG&A or have their franchise pulled. When i bought my last sled before calling it quits my dealer i always used had to get me my belt blower through another dealer. He quit his cat dealership cause to be a dealer he had to buy a few side by sides that he knew he would have to buy for personal use every year cause he wouldnt move them. He could pedal a few atvs out the door but couldnt get rid of side by side. He could move shit loads of sleds but that didnt matter to cat as he had to take all the shit he couldnt sell. good thing he gave up on selling artic cats cause i would have eventually unload that belt blower in the parking lot and if the belt would have held together long enough to go from the parking lot to the window he would have had a used sled sitting in his new sled showroom Edited January 26, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: When i bought my last sled before calling it quits my dealer i always used had to get me my belt blower through another dealer. He quit his cat dealership cause to be a dealer he had to buy a few side by sides that he knew he would have to buy for personal use every year cause he wouldnt move them. He could pedal a few atvs out the door but couldnt get rid of side by side. He could move shit loads of sleds but that didnt matter to cat as he had to take all the shit he couldnt sell. good thing he gave up on selling artic cats cause i would have eventually unload that belt blower in the parking lot and if the belt would have held together long enough to go from the parking lot to the window he would have had a used sled sitting in his new sled showroom All the manufactures do that you want 6 hyper sleds you need to take 4 budget entry level kid sleds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 26, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted January 26, 2017 He had no problem moving sleds wether kiddie or adult sleds. It was utv's and side by sides that were forced that did him in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: When i bought my last sled before calling it quits my dealer i always used had to get me my belt blower through another dealer. He quit his cat dealership cause to be a dealer he had to buy a few side by sides that he knew he would have to buy for personal use every year cause he wouldnt move them. He could pedal a few atvs out the door but couldnt get rid of side by side. He could move shit loads of sleds but that didnt matter to cat as he had to take all the shit he couldnt sell. good thing he gave up on selling artic cats cause i would have eventually unload that belt blower in the parking lot and if the belt would have held together long enough to go from the parking lot to the window he would have had a used sled sitting in his new sled showroom My dealer just says no to Cat's demands of filling the showroom with stuff that won't sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 13 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: My dealer just says no to Cat's demands of filling the showroom with stuff that won't sell. Who is your dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Anler said: Who is your dealer? Bob is my up north guy and RT&T and Neilsen's are my southern dealers, I talked to Bob for about 30 minutes today. Gotta have friends everywhere Edited January 26, 2017 by Mileage Psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 49 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Bob is my up north guy and RT&T and Neilsen's are my southern dealers, I talked to Bob for about 30 minutes today. Gotta have friends everywhere Is that in case you breakdown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: My dealer just says no to Cat's demands of filling the showroom with stuff that won't sell. no he is not he may be talking tough but I ride with guys who have owned dealerships and let cat come get there signs . U don't take there shit with there shit floor plan terms u are no longer a dealer . they really screwed a lot of small guys over the last 10 yrs . just saw the cat story on local news. weird part they show picks of atv fine then start talking snowmobile and only show the snowbike ridding no sleds. they bought them cheep hope they don't fuck them up like the golf stuff they screwed in recent past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ez ryder Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 I see we are back to only 2 plugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted January 26, 2017 Share Posted January 26, 2017 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: no he is not he may be talking tough but I ride with guys who have owned dealerships and let cat come get there signs . U don't take there shit with there shit floor plan terms u are no longer a dealer . they really screwed a lot of small guys over the last 10 yrs . just saw the cat story on local news. weird part they show picks of atv fine then start talking snowmobile and only show the snowbike ridding no sleds. they bought them cheep hope they don't fuck them up like the golf stuff they screwed in recent past I've heard the same story over and over again . Bout 5 years ago I was talking to the owner of a small little dealer on Moosehead Lake in Greenville Maine who had finally had enough and told them to come get their shit . The more that old man talked , the more pissed that he got . About 5 mins into the convo I was hiding on the other side of my sled Edited January 26, 2017 by Sal Rosenberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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