Jan. 6 Organizers Used Anonymous 'Burner Phones' to Communicate with White House and Trump Family

[Sleepr2]

47 minutes ago, racer254 said:

So like the 2nd time in history and a bunch of redneck hicks, no weapons and burner phones did it?

[Guest]

The fukkin SHAMAN!!! LMMFAO!!

What a fukkin asswipe. Standing there with his horns, and bellowing like a bull. LMMFAO!! 

Good luck in prison, Chancey!! 

[p51mstg]

On 11/24/2021 at 3:23 PM, akvanden said:

Who said there were guns? Snake asked how such a thing could happen without weapons, I merely said they didn't need them. 

You’re shifting away from the claim that this was an insurrection.  Was it an insurrection or not?  One can’t take and hold an armed government without arms.  If they had tried, they’d have been cut to pieces.  The people who entered the capital were not prepared to hold it.  To take over the government, it must be both, take it AND hold it.

The shaman clown guy getting 41 months is disproportionate to the crime.  This type of example setting undermines democracy because it puts the finger on the scale of justice.  Justice is a critical part of our form of government and corrupting it with public opinion and distorted political philosophies is a far greater danger than the illegal capital tourists will ever be. 

[DriftBusta]

54 minutes ago, p51mstg said:

You’re shifting away from the claim that this was an insurrection.  Was it an insurrection or not?  One can’t take and hold an armed government without arms.  If they had tried, they’d have been cut to pieces.  The people who entered the capital were not prepared to hold it.  To take over the government, it must be both, take it AND hold it.

The shaman clown guy getting 41 months is disproportionate to the crime.  This type of example setting undermines democracy because it puts the finger on the scale of justice.  Justice is a critical part of our form of government and corrupting it with public opinion and distorted political philosophies is a far greater danger than the illegal capital tourists will ever be. 

Well said.

[akvanden]

1 hour ago, p51mstg said:

You’re shifting away from the claim that this was an insurrection.  Was it an insurrection or not?  One can’t take and hold an armed government without arms.  If they had tried, they’d have been cut to pieces.  The people who entered the capital were not prepared to hold it.  To take over the government, it must be both, take it AND hold it.

The shaman clown guy getting 41 months is disproportionate to the crime.  This type of example setting undermines democracy because it puts the finger on the scale of justice.  Justice is a critical part of our form of government and corrupting it with public opinion and distorted political philosophies is a far greater danger than the illegal capital tourists will ever be. 

I wasn't aware for it to be an "official" insurrection it had to be successful. They were there to disrupt the peaceful democratic process of certifying the election results. 702 have been charged so far. You don't want to call it an insurrection because they didn't have guns? Go ahead.

 

No one feels bad for his sentence. No one feels bad for the other 702 who have been charged either.  "'Resolving the crime of the century with misdemeanors' | Judge skewers DOJ at January 6 sentencing. "No wonder parts of the public are confused about whether what happened on January 6 was just trespassing with some disorderliness or shocking criminal conduct,” Howell said. “No wonder.” “Members of a mob who breach barriers and push back officers to disrupt the joint session of Congress are not trespassers, they are criminals,” Howell said.

 

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/national/capitol-riots/resolving-the-crime-of-the-century-with-misdemeanors-judge-skewers-doj-at-january-6-sentencing-beryl-howell-jack-griffith-anna-morgan-lloyd/65-352274e8-7279-4792-a878-cf4cb0cc20ae

[Zambroski]

On 11/24/2021 at 7:24 AM, p51mstg said:

The shaman clown guy got a sentence that far exceeds the crime.  This is how those in power keep their power.  This is not justice.

This may have been a security issue, but there was no insurrection.  No one was trying to take and hold the government (that’s what an insurrection is).  They were trying to take selfies and then they left.

Leave him be.  He’s gets his information from propaganda sites and is “all in” on those “facts”. Damn the Constitution!

[Mainecat]

21 minutes ago, akvanden said:

I wasn't aware for it to be an "official" insurrection it had to be successful. They were there to disrupt the peaceful democratic process of certifying the election results. 702 have been charged so far. You don't want to call it an insurrection because they didn't have guns? Go ahead.

 

No one feels bad for his sentence. No one feels bad for the other 702 who have been charged either.  "'Resolving the crime of the century with misdemeanors' | Judge skewers DOJ at January 6 sentencing. "No wonder parts of the public are confused about whether what happened on January 6 was just trespassing with some disorderliness or shocking criminal conduct,” Howell said. “No wonder.” “Members of a mob who breach barriers and push back officers to disrupt the joint session of Congress are not trespassers, they are criminals,” Howell said.

 

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/national/capitol-riots/resolving-the-crime-of-the-century-with-misdemeanors-judge-skewers-doj-at-january-6-sentencing-beryl-howell-jack-griffith-anna-morgan-lloyd/65-352274e8-7279-4792-a878-cf4cb0cc20ae

Some had guns. It was reported a few had them taken away by Capitol police officers.

it will be in the report.

[CFM]

On 11/24/2021 at 4:15 PM, Sleepr2 said:

No guns according to the FBI AND for some reason the leftists using 1.3 fireworks I. Seattle didn’t seem to bother the media? 

You would have thought that info woukd have leaked out. The dems leak everything , truth or lie.

Guess we’ll see.

Still waiting for Adam Schiff’s overwhelming evidence he has on russian collusion.  Lololol

[XCR1250]

• nt

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Eric Trump, the son of former President Donald Trump.Andrew Harnik/AP

• Rolling Stone reported that rally organizers used burner phones to speak with Eric Trump and others.

• The Palmer Report linked to the Rolling Stone article but tweeted that Trump reportedly used burner phones.

• Trump threatened to sue the outlet for defamation, saying: "I'm an incredibly honest, clean guy."

Eric Trump threatened to sue a website for defamation after it suggested that he had used burner phones to communicate with pro-Donald Trump rally organizers in the run-up to January 6.

Trump, the second son of former President Donald Trump, threatened The Palmer Report with legal action after over a claim it made in the aftermath of a Rolling Stone article purporting to describe the events leading to the insurrection on January 6.

In its tweet, the Palmer Report said that Eric and Lara Trump "reportedly used burner phones to communicate with January 6th organizers," describing that as "something you do in a criminal plot."

 

While the Rolling Stone article did describe the use of burner phones — throwaway devices used to avoid communications being traced — it said they were used by others to contact figures like Eric and Lara Trump.

It did not claim those two people handled burner phones themselves.

Citing The Palmer Report's tweet, Eric Trump wrote: "Well here is one outlet I can sue for defamation. This will be fun."

"I'm an incredibly honest clean guy — unlike Hunter, no drugs, healthy lifestyle, not the 'burner phone type," Trump tweeted, referring to President Joe Biden's son Hunter and his previous struggles with addiction. Trump also appeared to referring to a New York Post article about Biden that described the purchase of a burner phone.

The Palmer Report is a left-leaning outlet that has frequently been characterized as unreliable.

Rolling Stone reported on Wednesday that several of the people who had organized the pro-Trump, "Stop the Steal" rally near the White House on January 6 used burner phones to communicate with senior members of Donald Trump's team beforehand.

The outlet reported, citing three unnamed sources, that Kylie Kremer, an official in the "March for Trump" group that helped organize the rally, instructed an aide to collect three burner phones prior to the rally and used one of the phones to speak to Eric Trump, Lara Trump, and former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows.

Representatives for Donald Trump did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

Read the original article on Business Insider

Edited November 26, 2021 by XCR1250

[old indy]

On 11/24/2021 at 10:01 AM, akvanden said:

Oh, ok. Well, jail the ones who weren't there peacefully.

No one is falling for anything (other than the ones who seemingly think it was no big deal) - it was a disgusting day for our country.

You're such a tough lion. 

It was , and in many ways.  the biggest imo was those in charge of security should have had a handle on the needs around the capitol. much more security was recommended and turned away.  why?     instead the purposely did what they could to not control anything. they stepped back and watched it unfold.   when the capitol police were told to open the doors and let people in it became 100% clear those in charge wanted shit to hit the fan.

these phony charges keeping some in jail since that day wont stop it from happening again either, i believe it will motivate more than deter.

[SkisNH]

On 11/24/2021 at 8:39 AM, ArcticCrusher said:

Half the capital police were mysteriously pre-assigned to traffic duty and the national guard that Trump asked for was rejected.  Who made that call?

Pelosi 

[akvanden]

11 hours ago, old indy said:

It was , and in many ways.  the biggest imo was those in charge of security should have had a handle on the needs around the capitol. much more security was recommended and turned away.  why?     instead the purposely did what they could to not control anything. they stepped back and watched it unfold.   when the capitol police were told to open the doors and let people in it became 100% clear those in charge wanted shit to hit the fan.

these phony charges keeping some in jail since that day wont stop it from happening again either, i believe it will motivate more than deter.

There were security failures, for sure. Those that were complacent in letting people in, not doing there job, should and will get their time to serve as well. 

And no, capitol police were not told to "open the doors."

Phony charges.... good grief. If you let this shit slide any unhappy party that loses an election will just try and do it again. No consequences, right?

[toslow]

4 hours ago, akvanden said:

There were security failures, for sure. Those that were complacent in letting people in, not doing there job, should and will get their time to serve as well. 

And no, capitol police were not told to "open the doors."

Phony charges.... good grief. If you let this shit slide any unhappy party that loses an election will just try and do it again. No consequences, right?

I believe what happened on the 6th is nothing compared to what the left promoted for close to a year or more telling the terrorists to riot and rape and pillage complete cities 

Edited November 27, 2021 by toslow

[Zambroski]

52 minutes ago, toslow said:

I believe what happened on the 6th is nothing compared to what the left promoted for close to a year or more telling the terrorists to riot and rape and pillage complete cities 

On camera, without remorse or any care in the world about it.  But, meh....DRumpHHH and InsEReCtion!   

The left is just scared shitless....and I laugh and laugh and laugh.  And now, they all have to wonder, Is there another RIttenhouse around here?  And how am I going to get all these free, stolen goods to my government paid apartment without getting robbed myself?  No justice, No peace!!!!  Black Lives Matter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

[Skidooski]

22 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Some had guns. It was reported a few had them taken away by Capitol police officers.

it will be in the report.

Oh no.....people had gunz????  

[DriftBusta]

21 hours ago, old indy said:

It was , and in many ways.  the biggest imo was those in charge of security should have had a handle on the needs around the capitol. much more security was recommended and turned away.  why?     instead the purposely did what they could to not control anything. they stepped back and watched it unfold.   when the capitol police were told to open the doors and let people in it became 100% clear those in charge wanted shit to hit the fan.

these phony charges keeping some in jail since that day wont stop it from happening again either, i believe it will motivate more than deter.

Yeah, I find it impossible to believe that they couldn't have prepared for this day better than they did.  Its not like its the first time a couple hundred thousand people have come to Washington to march or protest.  I hope so on the bold.  The career dems and unelected hacks are the ones who've had the coup attempt.

9 hours ago, akvanden said:

There were security failures, for sure. Those that were complacent in letting people in, not doing there job, should and will get their time to serve as well. 

And no, capitol police were not told to "open the doors."

Phony charges.... good grief. If you let this shit slide any unhappy party that loses an election will just try and do it again. No consequences, right?

Bullshit, they were removing barriers, opening doors, pointing which way to go to the protesters, who were doing really nothing more than peacefully demonstrating.  Some of them were chatting it up with the protesters.  Its all on video ffs.  Pelosi's response is to ring the capital with barbed wire and 25,000 troops.  Keep it up Nancy, and those troops just might turn on you.

[Snake]

22 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Some had guns. It was reported a few had them taken away by Capitol police officers.

it will be in the report.

The only gun was found on a man who was determined to be undercover cop...

10 hours ago, akvanden said:

There were security failures, for sure. Those that were complacent in letting people in, not doing there job, should and will get their time to serve as well. 

And no, capitol police were not told to "open the doors."

Phony charges.... good grief. If you let this shit slide any unhappy party that loses an election will just try and do it again. No consequences, right?

[old indy]

10 hours ago, akvanden said:

There were security failures, for sure. Those that were complacent in letting people in, not doing there job, should and will get their time to serve as well. 

And no, capitol police were not told to "open the doors."

Phony charges.... good grief. If you let this shit slide any unhappy party that loses an election will just try and do it again. No consequences, right?

wrong.         Two capitol policemen  were recorded doing so.  they even held the doors open while people walked in, no storming or violence, they walked.   it was captured on video and audio  and at one time  played on the air. 

the phony charges im referring to are those that have had the nazi/FBI show up at there homes just for being at the capitol mall.   fuck the government and anyone including the FBI  that want to call that a crime.

Edited November 27, 2021 by old indy

[akvanden]

50 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Bullshit, they were removing barriers, opening doors, pointing which way to go to the protesters, who were doing really nothing more than peacefully demonstrating.  Some of them were chatting it up with the protesters.  Its all on video ffs.  Pelosi's response is to ring the capital with barbed wire and 25,000 troops.  Keep it up Nancy, and those troops just might turn on you.

 

45 minutes ago, Snake said:

 

27 minutes ago, old indy said:

wrong.         Two capitol policemen  were recorded doing so.  they even held the doors open while people walked in, no storming or violence, they walked.   it was captured on video and audio  and at one time  played on the air. 

the phony charges im referring to are those that have had the nazi/FBI show up at there homes just for being at the capitol mall.   fuck the government and anyone including the FBI  that want to call that a crime.

 

There's a big difference between being told to open the barriers/doors by superiors and doing it yourself. Yes, we're all aware some capitol officers made things easier for some. Some have already been charged, more will.

 

Wouldn't it be nice if a bipartisan committee was put together to understand the complete picture of events that day? 

 

The chief federal judge said it best ‘’No wonder parts of the public in the US are confused about whether what happened on Jan 6 at the Capitol was simply a petty offense of trespassing with some disorderliness, or shocking criminal conduct that represented a grave threat to our democratic norms,’’ Judge Beryl Howell said in court Thursday. ‘’Let me make my view clear: the rioters were not mere protesters.’’

[old indy]

2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

 

 

 

There's a big difference between being told to open the barriers/doors by superiors and doing it yourself. Yes, we're all aware some capitol officers made things easier for some. Some have already been charged, more will.

 

Wouldn't it be nice if a bipartisan committee was put together to understand the complete picture of events that day? 

 

The chief federal judge said it best ‘’No wonder parts of the public in the US are confused about whether what happened on Jan 6 at the Capitol was simply a petty offense of trespassing with some disorderliness, or shocking criminal conduct that represented a grave threat to our democratic norms,’’ Judge Beryl Howell said in court Thursday. ‘’Let me make my view clear: the rioters were not mere protesters.’’

And theres a big difference between seeing the truth and towing the line.   NOT told to?  the audio from the doorway im writing about says otherwise.  you are 100% wrong     Crazy nancy put an end to any  bipartisan investigation now didnt she.

[Ez ryder]

9 minutes ago, akvanden said:

 

 

 

There's a big difference between being told to open the barriers/doors by superiors and doing it yourself. Yes, we're all aware some capitol officers made things easier for some. Some have already been charged, more will.

 

Wouldn't it be nice if a bipartisan committee was put together to understand the complete picture of events that day? 

 

The chief federal judge said it best ‘’No wonder parts of the public in the US are confused about whether what happened on Jan 6 at the Capitol was simply a petty offense of trespassing with some disorderliness, or shocking criminal conduct that represented a grave threat to our democratic norms,’’ Judge Beryl Howell said in court Thursday. ‘’Let me make my view clear: the rioters were not mere protesters.’’

What ones were called protesters and what ones were called rioters and still are .

 

 

[Skidooski]

I'm surprised some of these are still up

 

[old indy]

That group of mounted police could have VERY easily cut that line of people off. instead they sat back and LET them enter the capitol. 

[DriftBusta]

7 minutes ago, old indy said:

That group of mounted police could have VERY easily cut that line of people off. instead they sat back and LET them enter the capitol. 

Exhibit eleventy.

[old indy]

4 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Exhibit eleventy.

Right!   someone told them to step back and not stop anyone.   who and why?