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An exchange with the CDC


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Credit to a friend (his post)
 
"Hypothetical conversation based on current public information."
ME: CDC, should I get poked if I already had Covid?
 
CDC: “Yes, you should be poked regardless of whether you already had COVID-19. That’s because experts do not yet know how long you are protected from getting sick again after recovering from COVID-19.”
 
ME: Oh, okay, we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts. Got it. So, how long does poke-induced immunity last?
 
CDC: “There is still a lot we are learning about COVID-19 pokes and CDC is constantly reviewing evidence and updating guidance. We don’t know how long protection lasts for those who are poked.”
 
ME: Okay … but wait a second. I thought you said the reason I need the poke was because we don’t know how long my natural immunity lasts, but it seems like you’re saying we ALSO don’t know how long poke immunity lasts either. So, how exactly is the poke immunity better than my natural immunity?
 
CDC: …
 
ME: Uh … alright. But, haven’t there been a bunch of studies suggesting that natural immunity could last for years or decades?
 
CDC: Yes.
 
NEWYORKTIMES: “Years, maybe even decades, according to a new study.”
 
ME: Ah. So natural immunity might last longer than poke immunity?
 
CDC: Possibly. You never know.
 
ME: Okay. If I get the poke, does that mean I won’t get sick?
 
BRITAIN: Nope. We are just now entering a seasonal spike and about half of our infections and hospital admissions are poked people.
 
ME: CDC, is this true? Are there a lot of people in the U.S. catching Covid after getting the poke?
 
CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them.
 
ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases?
 
CDC: That’s right.
 
ME: Oh, okay. Hmm. Well, if I can still get sick after I get the poke, how is it helping me?
 
CDC: We never said you wouldn’t get sick. We said it would reduce your chances of serious illness or death.
 
ME: Oh, sorry. Alright, exactly how much does it reduce my chance of serious illness or death.
 
CDC: We don’t know “exactly.”
 
ME: Oh. Then what’s your best estimate for how much risk reduction there is?
 
CDC: We don’t know, okay? Next question.
 
ME: Um, if I’m healthy and don’t want the poke, is there any reason I should get it?
 
CDC: Yes, for the collective.
 
ME: How does the collective benefit from me getting poked?
 
CDC: Because you could spread the virus to someone else who might get sick and die.
 
ME: Can a poked person spread the virus to someone else?
 
CDC: Yes.
 
ME: So if I get poked, I could still spread the virus to someone else?
 
CDC: Yes.
 
ME: But I thought you just said, the REASON I should get poked was to prevent me spreading the virus? How does that make sense if I can still catch Covid and spread it
after getting the poke?
 
CDC: Never mind that. The other thing is, if you stay unpoked, there’s a chance the virus could possibly mutate into a strain that escapes the pokes protection, putting all poked people at risk.
 
ME: So the poke stops the virus from mutating?
 
CDC: No.
 
ME: So it can still mutate in poked people?
 
CDC: Yes.
 
ME: This seems confusing. If the poke doesn’t stop mutations, and it doesn’t stop infections, then how does me getting poked help prevent a more deadly strain from evolving to escape the poke?
 
CDC: You aren’t listening, okay? The bottom line is: as long as you are unpoked, you pose a threat to poked people.
 
ME: But what KIND of threat??
 
CDC: The threat that they could get a serious case of Covid and possibly die.
 
ME: My brain hurts. Didn’t you JUST say that the poke doesn’t keep people from catching Covid, but prevents a serious case or dying? Now it seems like you’re saying poked people can still easily die from Covid even after they got the poke just by running into an unpoked person! Which is it??
 
CDC: That’s it, we’re hanging up now.
 
ME: Wait! I just want to make sure I understand all this. So, even if I ALREADY had Covid, I should STILL get poked, because we don’t know how long natural immunity lasts, and we also don’t know how long poke immunity lasts. And I should get the poke to keep a poked person from catching Covid from me, but even if I get the poke, I can give it to the poked person anyways. And, the other poked person can still easily catch a serious case of Covid from me and die. Do I have all that right?
ME: Um, hello? Is anyone there?
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29 minutes ago, Anler said:

Hypothetical outrage!

It’s not outrage.  It’s laughter.  I really am beginning to think you aren’t happy with my validation on you getting the “vaccine”.

BTW, well done @BontzI fucking lul’d!  

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40 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

:lol: I was going to put this up also. Thought about it at least but then you get the Chain Mail police fluffing their chests!  lol

Who fucking cares? Those that claim that don't like hearing the truth, plain and simple. 

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1 minute ago, irv said:

Who fucking cares? Those that claim that don't like hearing the truth, plain and simple. 

I was just taking a shot at them. I care just enough to do that much  :lol: 

If some chain mail from AOL ruffles their feathers then they have bigger things to worry about IMO

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1 minute ago, Mainecat said:

Jesus save us all.

I'm afraid you've been a lost cause for a long time now. Go check out your mice analogy post for latest proof  

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9 minutes ago, Anler said:

For a hypothetical conversation, yes!

Except that exact conversation is happening on the national stage right before our eyes. 

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2 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Except that exact conversation is happening on the national stage right before our eyes. 

With you and the others I am sure. 

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1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Not a single thing in there isn't factual.  

This isn't.

 

CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them.
ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases?
CDC: That’s right.
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4 minutes ago, akvanden said:

This isn't.

 

CDC: We stopped tracking breakthrough cases. We accept voluntary reports of breakthroughs but aren’t out there looking for them.
ME: Does that mean that if someone comes in the hospital with Covid, you don’t track them because they’ve been poked? You only track the UN-poked Covid cases?
CDC: That’s right.

Its hypothetically factual... 

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22 minutes ago, Anler said:

With you and the others I am sure. 

No ....the cdc has made this exact representations against all logic. They are lying to protect an agenda that has been exposed repeatedly as bullshit.

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3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

No ....the cdc has made this exact representations against all logic. They are lying to protect an agenda that has been exposed repeatedly as bullshit.

So what? You saying the govt is incompetent? 

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2 minutes ago, Anler said:

So what? You saying the govt is incompetent? 

I’m saying people who aren’t outraged by this fucking covid scam that is really disrupting our lives are absolute fucking morons. I am god damn sick of this fucking bullshit fucking up my life and the lives of those I care for. You wanna run around pretending this is ok have at it. I’m fucking sick of it.

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Just now, f7ben said:

I’m saying people who aren’t outraged by this fucking covid scam that is really disrupting our lives are absolute fucking morons. I am god damn sick of this fucking bullshit fucking up my life and the lives of those I care for. You wanna run around pretending this is ok have at it. I’m fucking sick of it.

I am not pretending anything and I do what I want. 

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1 minute ago, Anler said:

I am not pretending anything and I do what I want. 

Wait for the fucking lockdowns....they are coming. The mask bullshit , fucking up my kids school life , the vaccine checks and tests for concerts etc. Fuck anyone who supports this shit. 

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5 minutes ago, f7ben said:

Wait for the fucking lockdowns....they are coming. The mask bullshit , fucking up my kids school life , the vaccine checks and tests for concerts etc. Fuck anyone who supports this shit. 

So what are you going to do about it? What is anyone going to do about it? I am sure all of these outraged (not you) are going to "vote for Trump" because they think he will end this but he enabled it. And acting up is going to get you "red flagged" so you lose your ability to own firearms and travel (thanks Trump for red flag laws)

You can jump up and down and throw a fit but really what is that going to accomplish? Seriously, what is the plan? 

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1 minute ago, Skidooski said:

Any hearing in Congress investigating the origins of COVID-19 is simply a distraction - Nancey Pelosi 

They dont work for us. 

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1 minute ago, Anler said:

They dont work for us. 

And they are appalled and in disbelief that something like January 6th happened. Completely disconnected from the people

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