Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 6, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: Should be some out there already Don't believe the BS hype of those Government Motors commercials Again, I don't blame him for not hauling her stuff with a bedliner/spray in. I picked my truck up on a Thursday, and it was at LineX the following Monday. Won't ever have anything else in a truck bed ever again but LineX SMH Didnt think they were. Have they released hp and torque figures as well as towing and hauling capacities yet on the 2017's? Edited July 6, 2016 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Didnt think they were. Have they released hp and torque figures as well as towing and hauling capacities yet on the 2017's? Raptor I think is 425. Normal F150 with the new 3.5 Ecoboost is the same hp as the old one at 365 from what I have read Edited July 6, 2016 by Ebsell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Meanwhile, at the Ford race shop: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 On Monday, July 04, 2016 at 4:11 AM, Ebsell said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 10 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Didnt think they were. Have they released hp and torque figures as well as towing and hauling capacities yet on the 2017's? What truck are you talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 6, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted July 6, 2016 5 minutes ago, SVT Renegade XRS said: What truck are you talking about? 2017 superduty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: 2017 superduty Never seen anything on the Superduty yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 6, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted July 6, 2016 9 minutes ago, Ebsell said: Never seen anything on the Superduty yet There is nothing out on the raptor yet either. Only new thing released has been 365 hp and 450 ft lbs on the second generation 3.5 ecoboost in the 10 speed in the regular 2017 f150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 6 hours ago, BOHICA said: There is nothing out on the raptor yet either. Only new thing released has been 365 hp and 450 ft lbs on the second generation 3.5 ecoboost in the 10 speed in the regular 2017 f150. It has been released for a while now. 450 hp http://www.caranddriver.com/features/2017-ford-f-150-raptor-in-depth-feature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2016/06/09/corvette-racing-hit-bop-le-mans-finishing-quickest-test/ Looks like the vette had the quickest test lap at lemans. So the governing body even further restricted the vettes hp, and gave the Ford even more weight reduction over the big weight reduction they already got. Goodness what a gong show Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 6, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 6, 2016 So they choked up the Chevy push rod motors to level the playing field while reducing the weight of the boosted Fords? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 49 minutes ago, Sludgey said: http://www.corvetteblogger.com/2016/06/09/corvette-racing-hit-bop-le-mans-finishing-quickest-test/ Looks like the vette had the quickest test lap at lemans. So the governing body even further restricted the vettes hp, and gave the Ford even more weight reduction over the big weight reduction they already got. Goodness what a gong show Sounds like Clinton rules at Lemans eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 6, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted July 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Skidooski said: So they choked up the Chevy push rod motors to level the playing field while reducing the weight of the boosted Fords? Nope. After qualifying they added weight and took boost away from the gt. While giving corvette more air flow with less restrictive restrictor plate size and adding fuel capacity to the chevy. The link sludgey posted was after testing and all that changed after qualifying. They added weight back to ford and took bunch of boost away from the ecoboost. http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/the-ford-gt-and-ferrari-488-teams-were-sandbagging-befo-1782160181 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dz246 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 7 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Nope. After qualifying they added weight and took boost away from the gt. While giving corvette more air flow with less restrictive restrictor plate size and adding fuel capacity to the chevy. The link sludgey posted was after testing and all that changed after qualifying. They added weight back to ford and took bunch of boost away from the ecoboost. http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/the-ford-gt-and-ferrari-488-teams-were-sandbagging-befo-1782160181 poor fudgey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 6, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted July 6, 2016 ISMA in an unprecidented move nueters the gt tiny v6 while givving more performance and weight reduction to the big honking gm v8's. After 3 out of the last 4 races have been won by a teeny tiny v6 ford they have to level the playing feild for gm's huge v8 by taking powah away from the ford 6 cylinder and give more to gm. http://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news/bop-changes-assessed-to-ford-gts-after-watkins-glen-1-2-796160/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 15 minutes ago, BOHICA said: ISMA in an unprecidented move nueters the gt tiny v6 while givving more performance and weight reduction to the big honking gm v8's. After 3 out of the last 4 races have been won by a teeny tiny v6 ford they have to level the playing feild for gm's huge v8 by taking powah away from the ford 6 cylinder and give more to gm. http://www.motorsport.com/imsa/news/bop-changes-assessed-to-ford-gts-after-watkins-glen-1-2-796160/ Sludgys arsehole just puckered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 47 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Nope. After qualifying they added weight and took boost away from the gt. While giving corvette more air flow with less restrictive restrictor plate size and adding fuel capacity to the chevy. The link sludgey posted was after testing and all that changed after qualifying. They added weight back to ford and took bunch of boost away from the ecoboost. http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/the-ford-gt-and-ferrari-488-teams-were-sandbagging-befo-1782160181 Looks like you had better check your facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 4 hours ago, Skidooski said: So they choked up the Chevy push rod motors to level the playing field while reducing the weight of the boosted Fords? Yup. I'm a Ford guy but if we can't compete without restricting the NA engines we need to do something different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/multiple-protests-in-wake-of-gte-pro-finish-at-le-mans/ lots of controversy. Ferrari accusing Ford of cheating and vise versa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 http://gmauthority.com/blog/2016/06/corvette-c7-r-hit-with-bop-adjustments-for-24h-of-le-mans/ gm got a big hp penalty after just plain running too fast. And allowed to carry the lowest amount of fuel. Ford got a total of 25 kg weight reduction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 26 minutes ago, Sludgey said: Yup. I'm a Ford guy but if we can't compete without restricting the NA engines we need to do something different. Being a Ford guy you must be overjoyed GM got its ass spanked by Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 6, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Nope. After qualifying they added weight and took boost away from the gt. While giving corvette more air flow with less restrictive restrictor plate size and adding fuel capacity to the chevy. The link sludgey posted was after testing and all that changed after qualifying. They added weight back to ford and took bunch of boost away from the ecoboost. http://blackflag.jalopnik.com/the-ford-gt-and-ferrari-488-teams-were-sandbagging-befo-1782160181 Oh ok GM might just need to start turbo'ing their shit again. Smaller and lighter with forced induction is where everything seems to be heading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Skidooski said: Oh ok GM might just need to start turbo'ing their shit again. Smaller and lighter with forced induction is where everything seems to be heading Check this price on a supercharged stang. http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a29116/this-dealer-sells-brand-new-727-hp-supercharged-mustangs-for-40000/ This Dealer Sells Brand-New, 727-HP Supercharged Mustangs for $40,000 A Roush supercharged 2016 Ford Mustang GT with more power than a Hellcat, for less than a nicely-optioned Camaro SS? Believe it. MORE FROM ROAD & TRACK HERE'S WHY YOU SHOULD SWITCH TO SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL IMMEDIATELY MEET THE HERO WHO COMMUTES TO WORK IN HIS MCLAREN P1 THE AGONY OF BEING A NICO ROSBERG FAN BY BOB SOROKANICH MAY 9, 2016 19.8k Most aftermarket tuners only list the price for their conversions; it's up to you to provide the car. So when we first read about an Ohio Ford dealership selling 727-horsepower, 610 lb.-ft supercharged Ford Mustangs for under $40,000, we figured that was the cost of the upgrade—you provide the Mustang. Turns out, that's not the case. At Lebanon Ford of Lebanon, Ohio, you can walk in the door with $40,000 cash, and walk out with a brand-new Roush supercharged Mustang GT that makes more power than a Hellcat. Now that's a gosh-dang bargain. Ben Keeshin over at The Drive spoke with Charlie Watson, head of the Roush parts department at Lebanon Ford. Watson explained that the dealership decided on the $39,995 price tag "to focus on establishing a nationwide base of enthusiasts rather than making huge profits on each car." The math checks out: A base model, no-options Mustang GT carries a $32,395 MSRP, and a Roush Phase 2 supercharger kit asks $7549.99. Install item two on item one, ignore what you'd normally charge for labor, and you've got a pony with 727 horses at an astonishingly low price. Through some combination of dealership incentives, bulk-order supercharger discounts, or similar financial black magic, somehow Lebanon Ford manages to make money on these beasts. Of course, most customers go for a little more than the rock-bottom package. Watson told The Drive that many cars sticker between $45,000 and $60,000, between factory option packages, Roush performance upgrades, or styling enhancements. As the dealership's website points out, the work is even covered by a three-year, 30,000-mile warranty. Lebanon Ford says it will arrange shipping to anyone, anywhere, and right now on the dealership's website, there are two brand-new 2016 Mustangs with Roush Phase 1 superchargers good for 670 horsepower, both under $40,000. Watson told The Drive that the dealership has already sold more than two dozen supercharged Mustangs, and with a sizable inventory of Mustang GTs and Roush supercharger kits on hand, this isn't some one-time stunt. So, yes: For $40,000, you can get a brand-new 2016 Mustang capable of stomping a Hellcat. That's nearly $9,000 cheaper than a Mustang Shelby GT350, and more than $22,000 less thanthe most affordable Challenger SRT Hellcat, both of which are frequently victims of egregious dealership price mark-ups. Use the money you save to keep a plentiful stock of rear tires. From: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 1 hour ago, Ebsell said: Being a Ford guy you must be overjoyed GM got its ass spanked by Ford. Yup I just wish we could build an engine that could compete without restricting the vette. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 20 hours ago, BOHICA said: 2017 superduty Nothing official yet. Just that it's 300# lighter 3 hours ago, dz246 said: poor fudgey Like usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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