GGNHL Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 hours ago, revkevsdi said: Seem familiar Ben? What's wrong with having a few nose beers once in a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomxz600 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Legend said: My wife was offered the vaccine yesterday. She declined. They asked why. She said leave it for people that are at the greatest risks for complications. She has seen a lot of Covid patients. She doesn't get into the spacesuits like the healthcare providers you see on the news. She has never had any symptoms. Went in for surgery a few weeks ago and the news crew out in front was saying what was going on inside, 100%+ full C-19 ward and still people coming in. The charge nurse held up 4 fingers and laughed, the media outside was flat out reporting a bullshit story. Nobody had suits on either. Nothing like a vaccine with no liability, I can wait for the lemmings to go first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Legend said: My wife was offered the vaccine yesterday. She declined. They asked why. She said leave it for people that are at the greatest risks for complications. She has seen a lot of Covid patients. She doesn't get into the spacesuits like the healthcare providers you see on the news. She has never had any symptoms. She’s not alone. Not by a long shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, f7ben said: The hospital is waiting for republicans to get their legislation that shelter businesses from any covid liability passed Oh no doubt this is liability driven. They don't want to get caught if this thing goes south. They are, however, required to get a flu shot every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted December 15, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, GGNHL said: What's wrong with having a few nose beers once in a while A few leads to a few more which leads to acknowledging the sun came back up hours ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Skidude600 said: Oh no doubt this is liability driven. They don't want to get caught if this thing goes south. They are, however, required to get a flu shot every year. Flu shot is completely different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, f7ben said: Flu shot is completely different The Flu Shot was 14% effective last year. Even with a flu Vaccine 50 to 100K die annually. The Flu is far more dangerous then Covid but don't tell MC or Snowretard or even Frenchy that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, jtssrx said: The Flu Shot was 14% effective last year. Even with a flu Vaccine 50 to 100K die annually. The Flu is far more dangerous then Covid but don't tell MC or Snowretard or even Frenchy that Flu shot was 95% effective against the targeted strains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidude600 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: Flu shot is completely different I get that Ben. The point I'm trying to make is that this covid virus is so much "deadlier" than the regular flu, yet front line health care systems are rolling the dice on their front line health care workers rather than just believing in the science willy nilly. That tells me that maybe the odds aren't as good as we're being told. I don't suppose they have an inside track to information the professors on here don't have access to, after all they're only filled with doctors and medical professionals. Pharmaceutical reps have never been seen there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: Flu shot was 95% effective against the targeted strains. oh my god. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 43 minutes ago, Doomxz600 said: Went in for surgery a few weeks ago and the news crew out in front was saying what was going on inside, 100%+ full C-19 ward and still people coming in. The charge nurse held up 4 fingers and laughed, the media outside was flat out reporting a bullshit story. Nobody had suits on either. Nothing like a vaccine with no liability, I can wait for the lemmings to go first. Just like MSM did earlier this year posting pics/videos of an Italian hospital. Thankfully it was outed as not being an American one. The thing with this, is why all the lies, why all the misinformation, why all the back and forth with requirements, etc? Certainly doesn't give a person much trust or faith in the fact we are being told everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 Some businesses/trades I’m sure the vaccine will be required. I had to get a flu shot every year when I was doing field work - hospitals around here require contractors performing work on site to have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: Some businesses/trades I’m sure the vaccine will be required. I had to get a flu shot every year when I was doing field work - hospitals around here require contractors performing work on site to have it. Many healthcare facilities are handling it like the seasonal flu. If a person decides not to get the vaccine they’ll need to wear a mask. One of the facilities I work is getting a round of vaccines in 7-10 days for the at risk people. I’d imagine things will be moving in the direction of normalcy by summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Doomxz600 said: Went in for surgery a few weeks ago and the news crew out in front was saying what was going on inside, 100%+ full C-19 ward and still people coming in. The charge nurse held up 4 fingers and laughed, the media outside was flat out reporting a bullshit story. Nobody had suits on either. Nothing like a vaccine with no liability, I can wait for the lemmings to go first. A news station from Milwaukee did a report from a hospital that she works at. They made it sound as if they are overrun and over the edge. Which was false btw. But in the news channels own video, they showed empty rooms, no patients in the hallways, nothing. It looked empty. But they did make sure they had a worker get all dressed up in the spacesuit and walk down that empty hallway to video. Dont misunderstand me, she has seen a large number of Covid positive people. Most of them are not admitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 hours ago, Zambroski said: Why can't liberals worry about themselves and what they do in their own lives? Why are they obsessed with trying to make others do things just because they want them to? Wouldn't it be easier for them just to do that? An easier way to live? Maybe then, they wouldn't be so despised. Look at you, trying to apply logic to any of this. Very cute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, mnstang said: Look at you, trying to apply logic to any of this. Very cute Sometimes, I feel like a hopeless romantic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 20 hours ago, f7ben said: Exactly....until you start attaching negative consequence to refusing it or financial incentive to receiving it....then heads need to roll What about health care workers? Would you want your elderly relatives taken care of by someone who has had the shot or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 hour ago, revkevsdi said: What about health care workers? Would you want your elderly relatives taken care of by someone who has had the shot or not? No....I don’t want my elderly relatives being cared for by someone who’s so god damned stupid they took an experimental vaccine against a mild virus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, f7ben said: No....I don’t want my elderly relatives being cared for by someone who’s so god damned stupid they took an experimental vaccine against a mild virus in homes the elderly stand a statistically significant chance of death so they should all get the vaccine. if they die from it one foot was already in the grave. Those treating them therefore should have the option to not get it. Edited December 16, 2020 by Angry ginger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: in homes the elderly stand a statistically significant chance of death so they should all get the vaccine. if they die from it one foot was already in the grave. Those treating them therefore should have the option to not get it. Exactly....and it should be optional for those in Ltc as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 21 hours ago, Zambroski said: oh my god. Its like saying the weatherman's rain prediction was correct on days when it actually rained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Legend said: A news station from Milwaukee did a report from a hospital that she works at. They made it sound as if they are overrun and over the edge. Which was false btw. But in the news channels own video, they showed empty rooms, no patients in the hallways, nothing. It looked empty. But they did make sure they had a worker get all dressed up in the spacesuit and walk down that empty hallway to video. Dont misunderstand me, she has seen a large number of Covid positive people. Most of them are not admitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: in homes the elderly stand a statistically significant chance of death so they should all get the vaccine. if they die from it one foot was already in the grave. Those treating them therefore should have the option to not get it. My daughter is interning at several LTC facilities and the local hospital receiving various certifications for schooling right now. I can tell you this, the shit she tells me is right on what is being said here.....this Covid thing is hyped bullshit with fraudulent and doctored death certificates. Most are like her and are planning to refuse any type of vaccine for it. It's gonna get interesting for sure. Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Its like saying the weatherman's rain prediction was correct on days when it actually rained. It's just amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, f7ben said: Exactly....and it should be optional for those in Ltc as well it should be optional for everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomxz600 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 21 hours ago, jtssrx said: The Flu Shot was 14% effective last year. Even with a flu Vaccine 50 to 100K die annually. The Flu is far more dangerous then Covid but don't tell MC or Snowretard or even Frenchy that As reported yesterday 45-60K dead so far this year and yet I don't know or hear of anyone who has the flu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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