Mileage Psycho Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Better late than never. Be smart, be safe. Quote Gov. Greg Abbott orders Texans in most counties to wear masks in public Gov. Greg Abbott issued a statewide mask mandate Thursday as Texas scrambles to get its coronavirus surge under control. The order requires Texans living in counties more than 20 coronavirus cases to wear a face covering over the nose and mouth while in a business or other building open to the public, as well as outdoor public spaces, whenever social distancing is not possible. But it provides several exceptions, including for children who are younger than 10 years old, people who have a medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask, people who are eating or drinking, and people who are exercising outdoors. The mask order goes into effect at 12:01 p.m. Friday. It immediately applies to all Texas counties, but counties with 20 or fewer active cases can be exempted — if they opt out. County judges must submit an application to be exempted to the Texas Division of Emergency Management. TDEM will list the counties that have opted out on its website. Later Thursday, in an interview with Univision in Dallas, Abbott also signaled he might be rethinking plans to open the state's public schools for in-person classes this fall, after state officials said last month that it would be safe. “If COVID is so serious, it may mean that students are having to learn from home through a distance learning program, something like the use of Zoom or FaceTime or other strategies where a teacher in real time will have the means to speak with a student, a student will be able to speak with other students, and it will replicate the class setting as much as possible,” he said. State officials have delayed the release of public health guidelines for in-person instruction as cases have continued to rise. But a draft version last month showed they were planning to leave safety regulations up to individual school districts instead of issuing mandates. The mask order represents a remarkable turnaround for Abbott, who has long resisted a statewide requirement, even as the coronavirus situation has gotten worse than ever over the past couple of weeks in Texas. When he began allowing Texas businesses to reopen this spring, Abbott prohibited local governments from punishing people who do not wear masks. As cases began to rise earlier this month, he clarified that cities and counties could order businesses to mandate that customers wear masks. In recent days, Abbott had held firm against going further than that, saying he did not want to impose a statewide requirement that may burden parts of the state that are not as badly affected by the outbreak. Along with the mask order, Abbott on Thursday also banned certain outdoor gatherings of over 10 people unless local officials approve. He had previously set the threshold at over 100 people. The new prohibition also goes into effect Friday afternoon. Abbott's latest moves come ahead of Fourth of July weekend, which has raised concerns about larger-than-usual crowds gathering while the state grapples with the virus spike. Abbott also released a video message Thursday, saying the latest coronavirus numbers in the state "reveal a very stark reality." "COVID-19 is not going away," he said. "In fact, it’s getting worse. Now, more than ever, action by everyone is needed until treatments are available for COVID-19." In the video, Abbott reiterated his resistance to returning the state to the roughly monthlong stay-at-home order he issued in April. He said Texans "must do more to slow the spread without locking Texas back down." He also said his latest announcement is "not a stay-at-home order" but "just recognizes reality: If you don't go out, you are less likely to encounter someone who has COVID-19." "We are now at a point where the virus is spreading so fast there is little margin for error," Abbott said. Abbott's announcement came a day after the number of new daily cases in Texas, as well as hospitalizations, reached new highs again. There were 8,076 new cases Wednesday, over 1,000 cases more than the record set the previous day. Hospitalizations hit 6,904, setting a new record for the third straight day. The state says 12,894 beds are still available, as well as 1,322 ICU beds. Abbott has been particularly worried about the positivity rate, or the share of tests that come back positive. That rate, presented by the state as a seven-day average, has jumped above its previous high of about 14% in recent days, ticking down to 13.58% on Tuesday. That is still above the 10% threshold that Abbott has long said would be cause for alarm amid the reopening process. First-time offenders of Abbott's order will receive a written or oral warning. Those who violate the order a second time will receive a fine of up to $250. Every subsequent violation is also punishable by a fine of up to $250. The order specifies that no one can get jail time for a violation. After listing several exceptions to the mask requirement, Abbott’s order specifies that at least one group of people is not exempted from the order: “any person attending a protest or demonstration” with over 10 people who cannot socially distance. Like other states, Texas has seen massive protests since George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis police custody. Democrats and local officials had been demanding that Abbott institute such a requirement, and the state party said his new order was "far too little, far too late." "This is unacceptable," party spokesman Abhi Rahman said in a statement. "Governor Abbott continues to lead from behind rather than implementing preventive measures to stop the spread of the coronavirus." When asked at a Thursday afternoon press conference about Abbott's new order, San Antonio Mayor Ron Nirenberg simply said, “It’s about time.” “We will count this one as a good step that the governor is taking,” Nirenberg added. Nirenberg was speaking alongside Bexar County Judge Nelson Wolff and the leaders of the region's main hospitals when news of the order broke. Wolff was the first local official to order businesses to require their customers to wear masks. "Now with the order by the governor, that's going to help take a lot of pressure off the businesses," he said. But Abbott's mask requirement is likely to further anger a small but vocal group of fellow Republicans in the Texas Legislature who have grown increasingly frustrated with his executive actions. Health experts say masks help slow the spread of the coronavirus, but some conservatives have railed against mask mandates, saying they impose on people's freedoms. One intraparty Abbott antagonist, state Rep. Jonathan Stickland of Bedford, vented after Abbott's announcement Thursday that the governor "FAILED TO MENTION" the mask mandate during a conference call with legislators. "What a piece of crap!" Stickland tweeted. "The man thinks he is KING!" State Rep. Tony Tinderholt, R-Arlington, tweeted that lawmakers "need a special session now so legislators can pass laws, not Abbott." This is Abbott's latest set of moves aimed at trying to get the virus surge under control in Texas. Six days ago, he ordered bars closed and reduced the permitted restaurant occupancy to 50%, among other things. https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/02/texas-mask-order-greg-abbott-coronavirus/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 3, 2020 Governor Whitmer has reimposed some restrictions in lower Michigan due to rising case numbers...from what I can tell all of those people decided to head north..holy hell it’s busy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 99% of places around here won’t let you in without a mask. It’s no big deal for me. Probably would suck to have to wear one all day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted July 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 3, 2020 Thank god Vanilla Ice canceled his concert in Austin too. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Governor Whitmer has reimposed some restrictions in lower Michigan due to rising case numbers...from what I can tell all of those people decided to head north..holy hell it’s busy! I'm in WIsconsin, it's like the people here don't see what's happening in AZ, FL, TX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: I'm in WIsconsin, it's like the people here don't see what's happening in AZ, FL, TX. Exactly...I drove through town yesterday and the sidewalks are asses to elbows with only a very few wearing masks or staying even 6 INCHES apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Edmo said: 99% of places around here won’t let you in without a mask. It’s no big deal for me. Probably would suck to have to wear one all day. There is no reason to wear one all day unless you work in an environment in close proximity with other people, now in our case vertical construction our field folks have to wear a mask all day, it's just another piece of PPE and you get used to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Edmo said: 99% of places around here won’t let you in without a mask. It’s no big deal for me. Probably would suck to have to wear one all day. Same here and no biggie for me either...it’s weird to me that some see it as a violation of their rights or that wearing one makes you a sheep. 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 There are more people involved in a professional football game than have died in Maine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted July 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, Edmo said: 99% of places around here won’t let you in without a mask. It’s no big deal for me. Probably would suck to have to wear one all day. Same in Mass. inside 3 minutes, cant wait to take the thing off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: I'm in WIsconsin, it's like the people here don't see what's happening in AZ, FL, TX. I will stick the masks I picked up for you in your mail box. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted July 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2020 14 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: I'm in WIsconsin, it's like the people here don't see what's happening in AZ, FL, TX. Dude...it's a virus and apparently will be around for awhile. The latest round affecting the younger demographic and appearing much less deadly.....surprise surprise. Should we all start wearing masks to try to prevent catching the flu and other colds?....I only wear a mask when absolutely necessary in stores . I've handled literally 30k packages since this started, rarely wash my hands and touch my face frequently without hesitation. This "pandemic" has become a non-issue for me and should also be a non -issue for anyone not in the elderly underlying condition high risk pool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 in northern MN now . went in to town few hrs back . town is packed as would be expected in cabin countery on a holiday . I saw like 3 people total with a mask in town and 1 of them was a worker at the grocery store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted July 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 I can't believe how badly this was handled by our government, and I can't believe how bad Americans are, especially those young people partying without any consideration of infecting some older people, who could die from this. I stand by my prior words, if it was up to me I would attack those punks partying and on the beaches, with a battalion of National Guardsmen swinging 48" riot batons. Same with looters, rioters.............the second they touched a storefront I would crack their fukkin collar-bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 5 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: I can't believe how badly this was handled by our government, and I can't believe how bad Americans are, especially those young people partying without any consideration of infecting some older people, who could die from this. I stand by my prior words, if it was up to me I would attack those punks partying and on the beaches, with a battalion of National Guardsmen swinging 48" riot batons. Same with looters, rioters.............the second they touched a storefront I would crack their fukkin collar-bones. You can’t keep people bottled up in their home forever. It’s summer and they want out. If you’re afraid stay home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: I can't believe how badly this was handled by our government, and I can't believe how bad Americans are, especially those young people partying without any consideration of infecting some older people, who could die from this. I stand by my prior words, if it was up to me I would attack those punks partying and on the beaches, with a battalion of National Guardsmen swinging 48" riot batons. Same with looters, rioters.............the second they touched a storefront I would crack their fukkin collar-bones. We had planes flying everywhere the whole time anyway. Lucky the virus has weakened, or was never as bad as originally thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 6 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: I can't believe how badly this was handled by our government, and I can't believe how bad Americans are, especially those young people partying without any consideration of infecting some older people, who could die from this. I stand by my prior words, if it was up to me I would attack those punks partying and on the beaches, with a battalion of National Guardsmen swinging 48" riot batons. Same with looters, rioters.............the second they touched a storefront I would crack their fukkin collar-bones. protect yourself, not everyone elses job to look out for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Drove down a camp road for the first time this year. A glorious gathering of Massholes and other miscellaneous losers. I get out to bring their shit and he says "You got to have a mask on to come down here." "Ok Sir, your choices are I can leave it in a plastic bag and the end of the road or you are welcome to drive to Waterville to get it." The fucking gall..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Mask wearer's How did all the women in the middle eat get the Rona? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) Be dumb be stupid it's what Dems and thier flock of sheep followers do Edited July 4, 2020 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Savage said the masks are worthless. Virus goes right thru them. Masks outside are idiotic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 4, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 4, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: Mask wearer's How did all the women in the middle eat get the Rona? 23 minutes ago, washedupmxer said: Be dumb be stupid it's what Dems and thier flock of sheep followers do Be dumb, be stupid....priceless.🤣 Edited July 4, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, ford_428cj said: Savage said the masks are worthless. Virus goes right thru them. Masks outside are idiotic. I wear one if I'm going into a business more or less to just be polite and not cause issues for anyone who's panties might get knotted if I don't. Not because I'm actually worried about getting or giving anyone anything. And once I'm outside, no masks, no fucks given, and anyone can suck a dick if they think I'm going to wear one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Be dumb he says...oh sweet irony! Don't forget you mask pouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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