Mainecat Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 The internal poll that Donald Trump said didn’t exist was just leaked ADAM PECK 6 hours ago Donald Trump's own internal poll numbers have been...deflating. Credit: Tolga AKMEN / AFP ABC News on Friday published the results of an internal poll conducted by President Donald Trump’s reelection campaign in March, a survey that Trump himself denied even existed. The poll found Trump trailing Joe Biden by huge margins in states he carried in 2016, including Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. In Texas, which has voted for Republican presidents by wide margins for the last 43 years, Trump holds just a two point edge against the former vice president. The existence of the poll and its damning findings were first reported by the New York Times earlier this week. It aligns closely with several independent surveys which have consistently found Trump trailing virtually every Democratic presidential contender in head-to-head matchups, findings which Trump himself has repeatedly denied. He also suggested the very existence of internal polling was a fabrication, and when that was proven to be a lie, instructed his staff to deny the results. Trump claims that polls showing him losing are fake “They were fake polls that were released by somebody that is — it’s ridiculous,” he told the media during a typically meandering press conference on Wednesday. “No, we are winning in every single state that we’ve polled.” In Florida, the Trump campaign’s internal poll shows him losing to Biden by seven points. In Wisconsin, the margin is 10 points. In Pennsylvania, it’s 16. Trump won all three states in 2016, and desperately needs all of them in order to win reelection in 2020. “They’re giving out phony polls,” Trump insisted on Wednesday. “These are polls that we have, that nobody saw. We do very little polling because I’m not a huge believer in polling…But we have some internal polling — very little — and it’s unbelievably strong. The strongest I’ve ever been is exactly today.” Brad Parscale, Trump’s campaign manager, confirmed the authenticity of the internal poll obtained by ABC News while simultaneously arguing that the numbers in that poll are outdated. “These leaked numbers are ancient, in campaign terms, from months-old polling that began in March before two major events had occurred: the release of the summary of the Mueller report exonerating the President, and the beginning of the Democrat candidates defining themselves with their far-left policy message,” said Parscale in a statement to ABC News. As the network noted, the poll was still being conducted several days after Mueller’s report first became public. The report also explicitly did not exonerate Trump, but rather outlined as many as 10 instances of criminal obstruction of justice. Just as his boss instructed, Parscale claimed there is other, more recent internal polling showing Trump doing significantly better in the same 17 states the campaign polled. He declined to share those figures with ABC News. The leaked internal poll only focused on a hypothetical matchup against Joe Biden, who is currently leading the field of 2020 Democratic presidential candidates. But recent independent polling suggests that Trump would fair only marginally better against a number of other Democratic contenders. He trailed Bernie Sanders (by 9%), Kamala Harris (by 8%), Elizabeth Warren (by 7%), Pete Buttigieg (by 5%), and Cory Booker (by 5%) in the recent survey by Quinnipiac University. https://thinkprogress.org/the-internal-poll-that-donald-trump-said-didnt-exist-was-just-leaked-1bedd00413f1/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Think progress, from someone that giggles about fox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Think progress, from someone that giggles about fox He's got you there Mainecat. Think progress is as far left and unreliable as fox news is far right and unreliable. Guess they'll have to stop believing fox news. Edited June 15, 2019 by revkevsdi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I miss the Kallloooosion narrative. This is just pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 It’s the dems race to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Stephen Hawking Posted June 15, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted June 15, 2019 What's the Vegas line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 15, 2019 How Joe Biden could win the battle but lose the war to Trump in 2020 https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/07/how-joe-biden-could-win-the-battle-but-lose-the-war-to-trump-in-2020.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Hopefully they both lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 8 hours ago, revkevsdi said: He's got you there Mainecat. Think progress is as far left and unreliable as fox news is far right and unreliable. Guess they'll have to stop believing fox news. Yeah he’s a fuckin genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 8 hours ago, revkevsdi said: He's got you there Mainecat. Think progress is as far left and unreliable as fox news is far right and unreliable. Guess they'll have to stop believing fox news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted June 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 15, 2019 Suicide hotlines receive record number of calls after the election — many from LGBTQ people Even before the votes were counted on Tuesday night, phone calls were pouring into suicide hotlines across the US in record numbers. Americans, including those in the LGBTQ community, were looking for help coping with feelings of anxiety, hopelessness, and a sense of betrayal. “We haven’t seen anything like that in our history,” says John Draper, project director of the the round-the-clock National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, a support line founded in 2005 for people considering suicide or who are in emotional distress. Between 1AM and 2AM on Wednesday morning, the number of calls spiked to 660 in a single hour, 2.5 times more than average. (They only saw a similar jump once before, when actor Robin Williams died by suicide in 2014.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: Yeah he’s a fuckin genius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 57 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Liberals still just aren’t getting it. Fantastic!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Sleepr2 said: Nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 hours ago, spin_dry said: It’s the dems race to lose. They are all going to look like epic cunts if he beats them again. I've never followed polls because they can be manipulated to do various things. In 2012 polls showed Romney winning, Obama beat him by over 100 electoral points. Polls showed Hillary killing Trump and she lost by almost 80 electoral points. If the economy is still going strong he is going to be hard to beat. And Biden is a turd and could be a bigger media joke than Trump is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 10 hours ago, revkevsdi said: He's got you there Mainecat. Think progress is as far left and unreliable as fox news is far right and unreliable. Guess they'll have to stop believing fox news. Wrong. But keep trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 His numbers will continue to drop. He can’t stop twitter. 70% of Americans have had enough of his shit show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mainecat said: His numbers will continue to drop. He can’t stop twitter. 70% of Americans have had enough of his shit show. Wire to wire! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) People actually believe polls that Trump would lose Texas... I remember when it was reported before the election Hillary was leading in some red states as well. Maddow was making a huge deal out of it. Fuck MC....use your brain for a second.....please......this is common sense shit. Trump won SC by 14 points and she was bragging about a tied poll. "Legit methodology." Edited June 15, 2019 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, spin_dry said: It’s the dems race to lose. And they will based on The current crop of nominees to chose from Edited June 15, 2019 by frenchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Zambroski said: I miss the Kallloooosion narrative. This is just pathetic. hey it is not over yet from what I understand those ducks had baby's who will be quacking soon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 15, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) Ask yourself who was the last old white democrap man to win the WH? Carter was only 52. You have to go back to Truman to find one 60 or older. Don't shit yourself if Biden can't inspire the young and progressive socialist vote he is in trouble. Even with the left's hate of Trump. People simply won't vote. Edited June 15, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 26 minutes ago, frenchy said: And they will based on The current crop of nominees to chose from Talk about a dumpster fire of candidates. Tulsi is the only one who could pull off looking sane but she is already being put down by the party. Joe Biden makes John Kerry look good and I did not think that was possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Talk about a dumpster fire of candidates. Tulsi is the only one who could pull off looking sane but she is already being put down by the party. Joe Biden makes John Kerry look good and I did not think that was possible. I’m actually hoping her or one of the others really shine so bright that the media can’t ignore them. Still, they’ll all be shunned....the DNC has made their choice and orders have been issued.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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