Rod Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Yes I have. Ed was one of the more highly adaptive yet disorganized serial killers. Had he not turned himself in, he might’ve gone a lifetime and not got caught. His genius level IQ really shines through in the interviews. He was very manipulative with strangers to get them into his car. Also played cops like a fiddle when he needed to it was interesting how openly he talked about what he did and why, and how he planned his final exit from it because he knew it was wrong but he just couldn’t stop until he killed his mother. Like you said, he had a certain appreciation that what he was doing was wrong, and that it was causing others terrible grief, but the actual feelings just didn’t register. I think he had a chance at a normal life if he had a proper upbringing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: The reasons are obvious. Alot of women stayed married because they didnt have any other options. Never worked and had no way to make a living on their own. Once they started having careers they didnt need to depend on a husband to support them. Adios! Secondly alot of affairs happen in the work place, women are sneaky, lying selfish cunts and start banging dudes at work. Happens all the time. The womens independence movement basically turned women into whores. Whores with bank accounts. Spot on. How many women would support a man? Astalavista baby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 4 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: The reasons are obvious. Alot of women stayed married because they didnt have any other options. Never worked and had no way to make a living on their own. Once they started having careers they didnt need to depend on a husband to support them. Adios! Secondly alot of affairs happen in the work place, women are sneaky, lying selfish cunts and start banging dudes at work. Happens all the time. The womens independence movement basically turned women into whores. Whores with bank accounts. I don’t think women are any sneakier than men. Men just aren’t in tune with the signals of a cheating spouse like women are. Men have different egos. They never think their woman would cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 10 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I don’t think women are any sneakier than men. Men just aren’t in tune with the signals of a cheating spouse like women are. Men have different egos. They never think their woman would cheat. Not only that but honestly, men are just fucking stupid about it. If a woman gets caught, she wants to or just doesn’t care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, spin_dry said: I don’t think women are any sneakier than men. Men just aren’t in tune with the signals of a cheating spouse like women are. Men have different egos. They never think their woman would cheat. I bet there are several cheating wives among the forum Repugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, SnowRider said: I bet there are several cheating wives among the forum Repugs It’s very interesting how you associate your cults with every aspect of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rod Johnson said: His genius level IQ really shines through in the interviews. He was very manipulative with strangers to get them into his car. Also played cops like a fiddle when he needed to it was interesting how openly he talked about what he did and why, and how he planned his final exit from it because he knew it was wrong but he just couldn’t stop until he killed his mother. Like you said, he had a certain appreciation that what he was doing was wrong, and that it was causing others terrible grief, but the actual feelings just didn’t register. I think he had a chance at a normal life if he had a proper upbringing. I have a different take. Ed was highly adaptive. He knew that he could make a comfortable life in prison and have lots of stories to keep the guards and other inmates paying attention to him. Ed loves the limelight. He loves to toy with people. And he’s quite good at it. Despite his high IQ, it doesn’t appear as though Ed could actually support himself. If I recall, he couldn’t make it as a cop (how convenient that would’ve been) and worked briefly in a labor position. As with most antisocials, Ed could be engaging, friendly, and lively in conversation, but after a period of time his paper thin facade would wear through. That is a job killer. He really doesn’t like people, other than when they can serve him some purpose. I think he turned himself in to use his crimes as a showman would. Not because he didn’t want to kill anymore. You’re right about his childhood. His mother was a real piece of work. A borderline personality no doubt. Borderline women typically raise antisocial sons because of their inherent inability to form a parental bond. Very destructive when it’s the mom. We men get so much from our mothers. They teach how to love and how to understand and treat others. We get our identity and sense of self from our mamas. It’s such a shame that we have to break their heart and gravely disappoint them to eventually become a man. Oh well. When there’s a void with mom AND that missing piece in the brain like with Ed, very bad stuff occurs. I think you’re right. With some proper parenting and the formation of a conduct code to live by, Ed would’ve been different. He still would find it fulfilling to be five steps ahead of you. He’d still get a big kick out of manipulation....but he wouldn’t have killed. Edited May 30, 2018 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, SnowRider said: I bet there are several cheating wives among the forum Repugs I hear you should worry about your own backyard. MY GOODNESS! You are so fucking stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Zambroski said: I hear you should worry about your own backyard. MY GOODNESS! You are so fucking stupid. Such a predictable response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, SnowRider said: Such a predictable response It really shouldn't be. Think about it you fucking idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Rod Johnson said: Most serial killers or mass shooters are driven from being constantly ridiculed, picked on, and have a sense of extreme hopelessness or being very alone now a lot of times these individuals can have issues such as antisocial personality disorder and these feelings or actions can trigger it. Often by a sense of rejection from someone they love, or very much admire, over a long time. Bt sometimes people are just fucked up. But seldom does it just happen out of nowhere IMO school shootings are the result of a much larger issue in the US. Liberals tend to blame the gun and just stop there. That is a tragedy in itself IMO. The argument always seems to start and stop there and never goes any deeper. I can't even begin to tell you how funny this is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: I have a different take. Ed was highly adaptive. He knew that he could make a comfortable life in prison and have lots of stories to keep the guards and other inmates paying attention to him. Ed loves the limelight. He loves to toy with people. And he’s quite good at it. Despite his high IQ, it doesn’t appear as though Ed could actually support himself. If I recall, he couldn’t make it as a cop (how convenient that would’ve been) and worked briefly in a labor position. As with most antisocials, Ed could be engaging, friendly, and lively in conversation, but after a period of time his paper thin facade would wear through. That is a job killer. He really doesn’t like people, other than when they can serve him some purpose. I think he turned himself in to use his crimes as a showman would. Not because he didn’t want to kill anymore. You’re right about his childhood. His mother was a real piece of work. A borderline personality no doubt. Borderline women typically raise antisocial sons because of their inherent inability to form a parental bond. Very destructive when it’s the mom. We men get so much from our mothers. They teach how to love and how to understand and treat others. We get our identity and sense of self from our mamas. It’s such a shame that we have to break their heart and gravely disappoint them to eventually become a man. Oh well. When there’s a void with mom AND that missing piece in the brain like with Ed, very bad stuff occurs. I think you’re right. With some proper parenting and the formation of a conduct code to live by, Ed would’ve been different. He still would find it fulfilling to be five steps ahead of you. He’d still get a big kick out of manipulation....but he wouldn’t have killed. He was manipulative as hell. I think he learned about psychology after he killed his grandparents so he could trick his psychiatrists into believing that he was rehabilitated so he could get out of jail. But you’re right. After he killed his mother he didn’t want out of jail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: He was manipulative as hell. I think he learned about psychology after he killed his grandparents so he could trick his psychiatrists into believing that he was rehabilitated so he could get out of jail. But you’re right. After he killed his mother he didn’t want out of jail. It’s a proven fact that psychopaths who are provided counseling in or out of prison get worse. Their symptoms increase and they form a higher level of omnipotence. I’m of the opinion that until some newer forms of technology are developed, these people are best left alone by mental health practitioners. I’m not talking about just serial killers either. Psychopaths come in all colors of the rainbow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It’s a proven fact that psychopaths who are provided counseling in or out of prison get worse. Their symptoms increase and they form a higher level of omnipotence. I’m of the opinion that until some newer forms of technology are developed, these people are best left alone by mental health practitioners. I’m not talking about just serial killers either. Psychopaths come in all colors of the rainbow. Agreed. There is no way to observe and detect most of them or how they react. Most of the time, "counseling" is nothing more than a mental game for the truly psychotic. If the "game" isn't invited, they can get set into motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, Zambroski said: Agreed. There is no way to observe and detect most of them or how they react. Most of the time, "counseling" is nothing more than a mental game for the truly psychotic. If the "game" isn't invited, they can get set into motion. Psychosis and psychopathy are two different animals. The psychopath doesn’t want you to believe that. It’s simply too difficult not to get sucked into the game for mortals. There has been some advancements made more recently. Basically it involves video taping each session and having it reviewed by a revolving team of trained observers. Observers that are highly trained in criminal thinking. They’re revolving because the psychopath can cast a spell over those who begin to invest their time into his case. Fresh eyes reveal the obvious. So far all it’s proven is that they don’t get well with conventional methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Psychosis and psychopathy are two different animals. The psychopath doesn’t want you to believe that. It’s simply too difficult not to get sucked into the game for mortals. There has been some advancements made more recently. Basically it involves video taping each session and having it reviewed by a revolving team of trained observers. Observers that are highly trained in criminal thinking. They’re revolving because the psychopath can cast a spell over those who begin to invest their time into his case. Fresh eyes reveal the obvious. So far all it’s proven is that they don’t get well with conventional methods. Realities form and exist different for each mind. Identifying true characteristics or even harder, future actions isn't much more than guessing and quackery. It's not the ones sitting in your chair being taped that are the ones to worry about. They aren't smart enough to not end up sitting in the chairs or are otherwise mentally weak in spite of their emotional projection of strength. If they've admitted they need help.....they are wanna-be's or, are playing the system out of boredom just to see what may come of it. I'd have no idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 41 minutes ago, spin_dry said: It’s a proven fact that psychopaths who are provided counseling in or out of prison get worse. Their symptoms increase and they form a higher level of omnipotence. I’m of the opinion that until some newer forms of technology are developed, these people are best left alone by mental health practitioners. I’m not talking about just serial killers either. Psychopaths come in all colors of the rainbow. That’s quite interesting. Didn’t know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: Realities form and exist different for each mind. Identifying true characteristics or even harder, future actions isn't much more than guessing and quackery. It's not the ones sitting in your chair being taped that are the ones to worry about. They aren't smart enough to not end up sitting in the chairs or are otherwise mentally weak in spite of their emotional projection of strength. If they've admitted they need help.....they are wanna-be's or, are playing the system out of boredom just to see what may come of it. I'd have no idea why. There’s 3 different clusters of personality disorder types. With each cluster there are subtypes. The most troubling to society is cluster B. The borderline, antisocial, and narcissist. The other two clusters are rather benign. All types are actually quite easy to identify with training. Typically there’s a mixture of antisocial and narcissism in the more violent and dangerous types. There are several instruments used with very high levels of validation that can predict future behaviors quite well. The instruments work pretty good. The dept of corrections has probably the best instrument with the highest level of validity. There are a few that can manipulate the testing. They are quite rare, but do exist. I would argue that staying below the radar for serial killers isn’t so much about their brilliance as it is style of operation. With the sophisticated reporting systems, advent of DNA testing for felony convictions, and FBI profiling, it’s getting tougher for them to exist long in the wild. They’re getting caught much earlier in their cycle. Edited May 30, 2018 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 hours ago, Zambroski said: Not only that but honestly, men are just fucking stupid about it. If a woman gets caught, she wants to or just doesn’t care. Beat me to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 9 hours ago, SnowRider said: I bet there are several cheating wives among the forum Repugs Very classy. 9 hours ago, motonoggin said: I can't even begin to tell you how funny this is. I fully expect to read about your arrest on the news someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Very classy. I fully expect to read about your arrest on the news someday. Just an educated guess given all the Repig ‘men’ on the forum and the realities we know to be true. Maybe all the Repugs on the forum fall into the ‘other’ category.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Just an educated guess given all the Repig ‘men’ on the forum and the realities we know to be true. Maybe all the Repugs on the forum fall into the ‘other’ category.... Keep saying dumb things. While you’re at it, be sure to enjoy the next 6 1/2 years of Trump. 🤙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Very classy. I fully expect to read about your arrest on the news someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted May 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2018 Just now, SnowRider said: Just an educated guess given all the Repig ‘men’ on the forum and the realities we know to be true. Maybe all the Repugs on the forum fall into the ‘other’ category.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Keep saying dumb things. While you’re at it, be sure to enjoy the next 6 1/2 years of Trump. 🤙 Ironic post of the day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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