spin_dry Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Matt said: Haven't ridden out there since '08 or '09 but I imagine every Johnny Boondocker is out there these days and it's harder to find true untracked play areas. We found some total gems back in the day. I really miss it. Mostly stuck to the meadows and gullies though. Didn't do a ton of climbing, though I could always out-highmark @spin_dry Remember this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Same with here. But you'll have faggots here trying to buy them. You already have retards on FB talking about tunes and cheating the system they have. They'd be the crying like little bitches when their warranty got denied there is a fair number of MI people who will travel to CO and WY, very few here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: there is a fair number of MI people who will travel to CO and WY, very few here. Faggots here will buy them to ride in the northern lower and UP, thinking they are riding a 200hp 850. And we have less elevation than you guys do there. Already see faggots here on RMKs and Summits with 3" tracks. With back packs and shovels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Faggots here will buy them to ride in the northern lower and UP, thinking they are riding a 200hp 850. And we have less elevation than you guys do there. Already see faggots here on RMKs and Summits with 3" tracks. With back packs and shovels There’s idiots riding alphas around here lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Faggots here will buy them to ride in the northern lower and UP, thinking they are riding a 200hp 850. And we have less elevation than you guys do there. Already see faggots here on RMKs and Summits with 3" tracks. With back packs and shovels True 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Faggots here will buy them to ride in the northern lower and UP, thinking they are riding a 200hp 850. And we have less elevation than you guys do there. Already see faggots here on RMKs and Summits with 3" tracks. With back packs and shovels 4 minutes ago, ACE said: There’s idiots riding alphas around here lol More than our fairs share here. It was a couple years back but I was in my old Doo dealer and he had several long tracks on the showroom floor. I made a comment about them not selling well here...he laughed and said, "Nope! I sell 50/50 Mtn vs. trail." I was astonished. i just shook my head...and we both laughed. Pretty sure I asked him where the avalanche beacons were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The 850 E-Tec Turbo has a sensor intergraded in the CVT cover, this will take a reading in the CVT area when the heat is too high, this will send a signal to the ECM and set off a notification in the cluster. There are two levels of functions one is a belt overload condition and the other is a belt overheat condition. Note: You may see belt temp in the cluster if it’s selected (A) Belt overheat condition: If the belt temperature reaches 75 Celsius/167 Fahrenheit a message will appear BELT OVERHEAT + 2 beeps every 10 seconds and once the belt temperature becomes lower then 75 Celsius/167 Fahrenheit the message disappears. Belt overload condition: If a critical condition is detected over 1 minute a message will display BELT OVERLOAD + 2 beeps every 15 seconds, if the rider reduces critical overload style of riding the message disappears. If it’s still in a critical condition for over 10 minutes the BELT OVERLOAD appears + 2 beeps every 10 seconds, the message will not disappear until engine shutdown. This will not reduce any power lost but will advise the rider to ease up to help save the belt. This will also resister two codes in BUDS: Level 1 = P3311: Overload with Warning in the cluster Level 2 = P3312: Overload with Warning in the cluster but rider continue to run hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 3 bills Analer slowly walks away from this sled.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Doorider said: The 850 E-Tec Turbo has a sensor intergraded in the CVT cover, this will take a reading in the CVT area when the heat is too high, this will send a signal to the ECM and set off a notification in the cluster. There are two levels of functions one is a belt overload condition and the other is a belt overheat condition. Note: You may see belt temp in the cluster if it’s selected (A) Belt overheat condition: If the belt temperature reaches 75 Celsius/167 Fahrenheit a message will appear BELT OVERHEAT + 2 beeps every 10 seconds and once the belt temperature becomes lower then 75 Celsius/167 Fahrenheit the message disappears. Belt overload condition: If a critical condition is detected over 1 minute a message will display BELT OVERLOAD + 2 beeps every 15 seconds, if the rider reduces critical overload style of riding the message disappears. If it’s still in a critical condition for over 10 minutes the BELT OVERLOAD appears + 2 beeps every 10 seconds, the message will not disappear until engine shutdown. This will not reduce any power lost but will advise the rider to ease up to help save the belt. This will also resister two codes in BUDS: Level 1 = P3311: Overload with Warning in the cluster Level 2 = P3312: Overload with Warning in the cluster but rider continue to run hard. Still blowing belts..... turbo schurbo big deal can't even run 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 Why can’t do get their belt blowing nonsense figured out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ACE said: Why can’t do get their belt blowing nonsense figured out Because they are gay....and they make sleds for posers. Plain and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, spin_dry said: Remember this? Those IQs with EZ Rydes were crazy fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 19 hours ago, Ez ryder said: is it 4lbs across the board or do they have a altitude monitor to adjust boost as needed ? Not sure how it will determine boot requirement to maintain constant hp. Could be altitude, however temp also play a role in air density, so it could use a number of inputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: Not sure how it will determine boot requirement to maintain constant hp. Could be altitude, however temp also play a role in air density, so it could use a number of inputs. It has a map sensor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 14, 2020 Author Share Posted January 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: Not sure how it will determine boot requirement to maintain constant hp. Could be altitude, however temp also play a role in air density, so it could use a number of inputs. Likely through a MAP sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManOnManOral Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: It has a map sensor Will that alone allow it to alter boost so as to maintain constant hp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ManOnManOral said: Will that alone allow it to alter boost so as to maintain constant hp? Yes....it appears to have a complex control scheme between the electronic boost control , the electronic wastegate and an electronic diverter in the intake tract. Through use of a MAP sensor and likely a MAF sensor it could achieve this easily. The best way would be to have full closed loop control and then you could just have a speed density tune and not need a maf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, ManOnManOral said: Will that alone allow it to alter boost so as to maintain constant hp? No it will need several inputs like the map and the tps, even that fancy belt load deal. Pretty sure that detects belt slip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: No it will need several inputs like the map and the tps, even that fancy belt load deal. Pretty sure that detects belt slip. It would need map , maf and tps if it's open loop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, f7ben said: It would need map , maf and tps if it's open loop Yeah you can run an incredibly basic system on open loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, ACE said: There’s idiots riding alphas around here lol There’s a bunch of them running around in Maine, but unless you have 4-5’ of snow I dont see the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, ACE said: There’s idiots riding alphas around here lol Oh yea, seen those here too 2 hours ago, Anler said: True They're all over the place in the UP 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: More than our fairs share here. It was a couple years back but I was in my old Doo dealer and he had several long tracks on the showroom floor. I made a comment about them not selling well here...he laughed and said, "Nope! I sell 50/50 Mtn vs. trail." I was astonished. i just shook my head...and we both laughed. Pretty sure I asked him where the avalanche beacons were. 10 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: There’s a bunch of them running around in Maine, but unless you have 4-5’ of snow I dont see the point. Even with that much snow, it ain't anywhere near steep enough for any of those here or where you're at. A 137 or 146" is plenty for what we have in Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 hours ago, Doorider said: The 850 E-Tec Turbo has a sensor intergraded in the CVT cover, this will take a reading in the CVT area when the heat is too high, this will send a signal to the ECM and set off a notification in the cluster. There are two levels of functions one is a belt overload condition and the other is a belt overheat condition. Note: You may see belt temp in the cluster if it’s selected (A) Belt overheat condition: If the belt temperature reaches 75 Celsius/167 Fahrenheit a message will appear BELT OVERHEAT + 2 beeps every 10 seconds and once the belt temperature becomes lower then 75 Celsius/167 Fahrenheit the message disappears. Belt overload condition: If a critical condition is detected over 1 minute a message will display BELT OVERLOAD + 2 beeps every 15 seconds, if the rider reduces critical overload style of riding the message disappears. If it’s still in a critical condition for over 10 minutes the BELT OVERLOAD appears + 2 beeps every 10 seconds, the message will not disappear until engine shutdown. This will not reduce any power lost but will advise the rider to ease up to help save the belt. This will also resister two codes in BUDS: Level 1 = P3311: Overload with Warning in the cluster Level 2 = P3312: Overload with Warning in the cluster but rider continue to run hard. doo should have had this option for about a decade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, ACE said: Yeah you can run an incredibly basic system on open loop. You could run an even more basic system in closed loop because it can adjust in real time based on the most critical parameters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, f7ben said: You could run an even more basic system in closed loop because it can adjust in real time based on the most critical parameters. Well sorta. You need 02’s then. Open loop doesn’t. my car in open loop speed density just runs off the MAP, TPS, IAT and coolant sensor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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