ActionfigureJoe Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 He admits that he lied. Another drip....drip....drip trump surrounded himself with liars. Shock surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Whogivesafuckous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Momorider said: Whogivesafuckous It all is making sense. Trump is a scum bag that’s surrounded himself with people just like himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 36 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: It all is making sense. Trump is a scum bag that’s surrounded himself with people just like himself. and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: It all is making sense. Trump is a scum bag that’s surrounded himself with people just like himself. You mean Hillary? She lost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: He admits that he lied. Another drip....drip....drip trump surrounded himself with liars. Shock surprise. Papadopoulos is a problem for Trump, I posted this in Ben's rant thread Quote (CNN) Even as President Trump was on Twitter insisting that the indictment of former campaign chairman Paul Manafort was meaningless because it involved activities unrelated to Trump or the campaign came news that former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos had pled guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with, wait for it, Russia. The Manafort news drew the bigger headlines Monday morning -- understandable given his high-profile role at the top of the Trump campaign. But, the Papadopoulos guilty plea -- and the fact that he has been cooperating with the special counsel investigation since his July arrest -- strikes me as significantly more problematic for Trump and his White House in the medium-to-long term. "In truth and in fact, however, and as set forth above, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for the first time on or about March 14, 2016, after defendant PAPADOPOULOS had already learned he would be a foreign policy advisor for the Campaign; the Professor showed interest in defendant PAPADOPOULOS only after learning of his role on the Campaign; and the Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS about the Russians possessing" dirt" on then-candidate Clinton in late April 2016, more than a month after defendant PAPADOPOULOS had joined the Campaign." So, Papadopoulos copped to lying to the FBI about the timing of his contacts with Russians. In his initial interview in January 2016, Papadopoulos was insistent that he had reached out to his foreign contact "The Professor" (amazing!) before he had formally joined the Trump presidential campaign. He was arrested in July, pleaded guilty in October and appears to have been cooperating in between. And, most importantly the "Professor" only showed interest in Papadopoulos after it became known that he was employed by the Trump campaign. That. Is. A. Very. Big. Deal. The obvious question is why Papadopolous initially lied to the FBI -- despite being warned that doing so would have major consequences. Why, if there was nothing to hide about his relationship -- or attempted relationship with Russian officials -- would Papadopoulos feel the need to put himself in serious legal jeopardy by lying about the timing of his conversations with "the Professor"? We don't know the answer to that question. But, we do know one reason why Papadopoulos was pursuing the relationship with the Russians; he believed they had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. This, again from Papadopoulos' plea agreement, makes that plain: "On or about April 26, 2016, defendant PAPADOPOULOS met the Professor for breakfast at a London hotel. During this meeting, the Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that he had just returned from a trip to Moscow where he had met with high-level Russian government officials. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS that on that trip he (the Professor) learned that the Russians had obtained "dirt" on then-candidate Clinton. The Professor told defendant PAPADOPOULOS, as defendant PAPADOPOULOS later described to the FBI, that "They [the Russians] have dirt on her"; "the Russians had emails of Clinton"; "they have thousands of emails." The broad goal of the Russian contact with Papadopoulos was to get Trump to visit Russia during the campaign -- a visit where he would huddle with Russian officials and maybe even meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin. Obviously, that trip never happened. So, to recap: 1. "The Professor" only expressed interest in Papadopoulos after it became clear that he would play a role in the Trump campaign as a foreign policy advisor. 2. Papadopoulos lied about the timing of his interactions with "The Professor." Those lies were aimed at suggesting the interactions came beforePapadopoulos was an adviser to the Trump campaign. But, in fact, those interactions were because Papadopoulos worked for Trump, not in spite of them 3. Papadopoulos' interactions with "The Professor" were driven by the promise of "dirt" on Clinton in the from of "thousands of emails" regarding Clinton. 4. Papadopoulos seems to have been cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation since July. Given all of that, it's much harder for Trump and his allies to dismiss Papadopoulos than Manafort. What's more, court documents make clear he was in contact with high-ranking campaign officials about his contacts with the Russians. A senior former campaign adviser told CNN's Gloria Borger that Papadopoulos was not a major player. "He was a zero. A non-event," the adviser said. But, what Papadopolous has already admitted to doing -- lying to the FBI about his conversations with Russian operatives regarding "dirt" on Trump's general election opponent -- is a very big deal. A bigger deal -- in terms of the investigation into Russia's attempted meddling in the election and allegations of collusion -- than the dozen counts laid out in the Manafort indictment. And the day is still young! http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politics/george-papadopolous-trump-guilty/index.htm Edited October 30, 2017 by Mileage Psycho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted October 30, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 30, 2017 And the Clown Posse go’s...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 54 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Papadopoulos is a problem for Trump, I posted this in Ben's rant thread No he isn't guy had zero involvement wasn't even a paid campaign person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, Momorider said: No he isn't guy had zero involvement wasn't even a paid campaign person Vinny is despirate. Cut him some slack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 10 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Vinny is despirate. Cut him some slack. Dude I'm just sitting back watching the show, I told you before be patient and I will say that again as this is just the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Momorider said: No he isn't guy had zero involvement wasn't even a paid campaign person Shhhh you're hurting winnies feewings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Another great big ................nothingburger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: Papadopoulos is a problem for Trump, I posted this in Ben's rant thread He’s a young kid that’s in way over his head. He knows he’s in deep shit and will cut a deal with prosecuters. Mueller could see the weak link and went for it. He’s a damn good investigator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: He’s a young kid that’s in way over his head. He knows he’s in deep shit and will cut a deal with prosecuters. Mueller could see the weak link and went for it. He’s a damn good investigator. Cut a deal for hwat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Cut a deal for hwat? Yeah. He’s just a lone wolf 30 year old that finds himself in deep shit for trying to cut a deal with the Russians for dirt on hillary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 4 hours ago, AKIQPilot said: Vinny is despirate. Cut him some slack. It will be interesting to see if the Pappy guy really materializes to anything, or any of the charges so far for that matter. He was just the one of the three to take the plea bargain. Throw a shitload of charges at people, hope one or a few stick or they they the plea. Guess what happens a vast majority of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 54 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Yeah. He’s just a lone wolf 30 year old that finds himself in deep shit for trying to cut a deal with the Russians for dirt on hillary. Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He will turn too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franks pond Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 this guy was yet another clinton "plant", concocted before the election, to help hillary take office after trump gets impeached. right skidmark? snake? .7paypal? tom? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 He admitted guilt! That’s new! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 wonder if skirmark is ready to pay up yet? we now have yet another case, and admission, to collusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: wonder if skirmark is ready to pay up yet? we now have yet another case, and admission, to collusion. was he given damaging material on clinton by someone associated with russia that was then used to damage Hillary ??? if not there is no collusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, f7ben said: was he given damaging material on clinton by someone associated with russia that was then used to damage Hillary ??? if not there is no collusion no he met the guy, shared some fries and a milkshake, and then came home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: no he met the guy, shared some fries and a milkshake, and then came home. so you got nothing then like usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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