Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 3, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Anler said: UHC would require everyone to pay for their own healthcare instead of forcing someone else to pay for it. Personal responsibility you know. Do you honestly think that would happen here? Do you honestly think there would be any sense of people paying "equal" amounts? The bold is simply laughable. You simply cannot be that naive. Expanded Medicaid, expanded EITC, other tax breaks or subsidies. I love this fairy-tail that everyone will pay something. Edited October 3, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 33 minutes ago, Anler said: UHC would require everyone to pay for their own healthcare instead of forcing someone else to pay for it. Personal responsibility you know. What a load of BS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snatchslayer Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 I'm probably going to get flamed here ,but a friend of ours was there ,and was shot in the stomach ,pelvic bone shattered. Wtf . There's no clear answer on your gun problems down there,but fuck..come on. This is retarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 24 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: What a load of BS! Not really. Everybody only gets pissed about health care costs when it costs THEM more money. Because their whole life someone else paid for it. mainly they or their spouses employer. Are you self employed or does your employer pay for your health insurance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 3, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Anler said: Not really. Everybody only gets pissed about health care costs when it costs THEM more money. Because their whole life someone else paid for it. mainly they or their spouses employer. Are you self employed or does your employer pay for your health insurance? The Sanders proposal still has the employer and wealthy picking up the majority of the tab and that's just what they've released on the surface. Got to love the left. They taxed Cadillac plans because they said they caused too many people to go to the doctor bogging down the system, now they want everyone to have a Cadillac plan. WTF do they think happens then. Edited October 3, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 21 minutes ago, Anler said: Not really. Everybody only gets pissed about health care costs when it costs THEM more money. Because their whole life someone else paid for it. mainly they or their spouses employer. Are you self employed or does your employer pay for your health insurance? Self employed and have been for years, that does not take wpawaynfrom you pathetic comparison, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Self employed and have been for years, that does not take wpawaynfrom you pathetic comparison, No not really. You are paying for your own health insurance. As do i. I think everybody should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Sleepr2 said: Did the taxpayer buy his guns? 1 hour ago, Anler said: UHC would require everyone to pay for their own healthcare instead of forcing someone else to pay for it. Personal responsibility you know. Forgot where you,started eh.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 15 hours ago, Carlos Danger said: Civilians cannot own a armed ex military plane. tons of military planes for sale and out there flying but none with guns. FAA is a little touchy about things like that. Why not? How the fuck can you have an uprising by the people using AK's and M-4's vs Abrams, A -10's, F-35's, Paladins, etc.....??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 2 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Forgot where you,started eh.? Nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, Anler said: Nope. You made a stupid comparison and are now turning it into a healthcare debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 3, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted October 3, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Anler said: No not really. You are paying for your own health insurance. As do i. I think everybody should. Employees do pay for their own... it’s part of the compensation package. The employers don’t pay for it.... the employees labor does Edited October 3, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Employees do pay for their own... it’s part of the compensation package. The employers don’t pay for it.... the employees labor does The govt makes them. Its not compensation anymore, its a burden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Anler said: The govt makes them. Its not compensation anymore, its a burden. it's going to be a burden on the employer through increased payroll taxes as well but end of the day not having to deal with all the bullshit of providing it should make up for it even if the effect of the taxes is slightly higher than current costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Anler said: Not really. Everybody only gets pissed about health care costs when it costs THEM more money. Because their whole life someone else paid for it. mainly they or their spouses employer. Are you self employed or does your employer pay for your health insurance? I personally know of a self employed individual who's wife got sick a few years back and now he had a benign tumour removed. That scared him enough to go and work for a large employer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Creepr just smashed MCretards balls in ........still waiting for a link to where he purchased all those guns in a short time frame MC And I'll buy as many fucking guns as I want or can afford....that is my business not anyone elses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Bhents the last person who should own guns. We all know theres a 99% chance he's all talk but the 1% makes him a risk to society Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: Bhents the last person who should own guns. We all know theres a 99% chance he's all talk but the 1% makes him a risk to society I guess we'll all have to wait and see.....and for the record mass gun killings are so yesterday. I think I can drive the needle to the creative side of the spectrum if I put my mind to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 16 minutes ago, f7ben said: Creepr just smashed MCretards balls in ........still waiting for a link to where he purchased all those guns in a short time frame MC And I'll buy as many fucking guns as I want or can afford....that is my business not anyone elses The reality is that showing McLiar for what he is , is much like slapping a jelly donut outa of a fat kids mouth , in the long run he's gonna keep stuffing his face ( or in the Liars case lying his ass off) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Mileage Psycho said: Why not? How the fuck can you have an uprising by the people using AK's and M-4's vs Abrams, A -10's, F-35's, Paladins, etc.....??? So to be clear you propose the elimination of the 2nd amendment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: So to be clear you propose the elimination of the 2nd amendment? Nah, just all the guns that are scary or Vince doesn't want to own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, Carlos Danger said: So to be clear you propose the elimination of the 2nd amendment? No , he thinks the 2nd amendment is useless as a tool to resist tyranny.....even though the US military has largely failed in occupying countries that have an even moderately armed populace. The USA would be a nightmare to try and take over militarily because of how many guns there are on the street.....and that is the way it should be. AR15's should be more common then toasters and the more people that know how to use them effectively the better 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 Just now, f7ben said: No , he thinks the 2nd amendment is useless as a tool to resist tyranny.....even though the US military has largely failed in occupying countries that have an even moderately armed populace. The USA would be a nightmare to try and take over militarily because of how many guns there are on the street.....and that is the way it should be. AR15's should be more common then toasters and the more people that know how to use them effectively the better Mandatory Gun ownership in Switzerland and last I looked it was a pretty peaceful place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 1 minute ago, f7ben said: No , he thinks the 2nd amendment is useless as a tool to resist tyranny.....even though the US military has largely failed in occupying countries that have an even moderately armed populace. The USA would be a nightmare to try and take over militarily because of how many guns there are on the street.....and that is the way it should be. AR15's should be more common then toasters and the more people that know how to use them effectively the better I doubt McLiar can use a toaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 3, 2017 Share Posted October 3, 2017 10 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: Mandatory Gun ownership in Switzerland and last I looked it was a pretty peaceful place. The US is the most armed country in the world. And one of the most violent. Dont be stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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