Carlos Danger Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Steve753 said: That victory really means nothing. 4 years of wasted time. As opposed to the whirlwind of success Joe has had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 15 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: As opposed to the whirlwind of success Joe has had? Neither were worth a fuck, and we are gonna be stuck with one or the other again. Neal 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertising Member Seatofmypants Posted January 17 Advertising Member Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, ckf said: NH isn't going to make a difference in the nomination as much as it will show which direction the independents are leaning. Trump can still win NH but do poorly among the large percentage of independents in NH. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/new-hampshire/ This was an interesting read this am. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 17 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17 29 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: As opposed to the whirlwind of success Joe has had? As opposed to 2 new people on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 27 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Neither were worth a fuck, and we are gonna be stuck with one or the other again. Neal One will start to dismantle the deep state, and one will add to it. C’mon Neal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 17 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17 20 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: There will always be negatives one can claim for economy I guess. It will never be perfect under any president. Neal No doubt but when it comes to elections the state of the economy is huge. Not maybe as huge as it once was before all the identity politics and what not when Carville said "its the economy stupid." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: One will start to dismantle the deep state, and one will add to it. C’mon Neal. Thats gullibility at its finest. Trump gives zero shits for the average Joe like you and I. Neal 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: No doubt but when it comes to elections the state of the economy is huge. Not maybe as huge as it once was before all the identity politics and what not when Carville said "its the economy stupid." That was back when we had a choice between reasonable candidates and policies. Each side has gone off the rails. Neal 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 17 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17 Just now, NaturallyAspirated said: That was back when we had a choice between reasonable candidates and policies. Each side has gone off the rails. Neal Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left. Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 17 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17 Just now, Highmark said: Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left. Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center. Come on, for years abortion was on the gop wish list, but they were smart enough to know it was political suicide. Those days have passed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 17 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17 Just now, steve from amherst said: Come on, for years abortion was on the gop wish list, but they were smart enough to know it was political suicide. Those days have passed It wasn't doable until they had the opportunity to appoint enough SC justices. I really don't think past GOP Presidents would have put in justices not willing to look at Roe. If Abortion is one they stuck to what they have always wanted then is it really moving right? Maybe so but the GOP has not moved R as far as the Dem's have moved L. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left. Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center. I disagree. The left has moved left, and the right has moved left. Spending is zero concern with the Republicans now it seems, and hammering towards a balanced budget is a pipe dream. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 17 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 17 4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: I disagree. The left has moved left, and the right has moved left. Spending is zero concern with the Republicans now it seems, and hammering towards a balanced budget is a pipe dream. Neal Basically what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 53 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Neither were worth a fuck, and we are gonna be stuck with one or the other again. Neal The thing is Trump is two different subjects. On one hand there is the rally guy who sends mean tweets and the other side is the actual policy choices. Policy wise Trump is considerably better than Biden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 47 minutes ago, Steve753 said: As opposed to 2 new people on both sides. Awww buyers remorse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Steve753 said: That will happen if it wasn't Trump. It really is that simple. Some of you are more concerned about trump then the actual election and the way this country is going. Get past that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 28 minutes ago, Highmark said: Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left. Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center. Trumps policies are only to put money in his pocket. He's a selfish prick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: Trumps policies are only to put money in his pocket. He's a selfish prick. That is funny coming from a Biden supporter....hell Joe has sold US foreign policy for hard cash. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 16 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: The thing is Trump is two different subjects. On one hand there is the rally guy who sends mean tweets and the other side is the actual policy choices. Policy wise Trump is considerably better than Biden. That's part of the issue, he's such a narcissist that he can't help but toot his own horn whenever and wherever he can. People see that and forget what he actually did and just see the moron tweeting or talking. He's his own worst enemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: Some of you are more concerned about trump than the actual election and the way this country is going. Get past that. Neither Trump nor Biden is putting forth a decent path for the country. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 45 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: One will start to dismantle the deep state, and one will add to it. C’mon Neal. Trump is the only one who will do it. The rest are status quos. Argentina's new President gets what's happening. It's mind boggling just how dumb people are and still think this is about Dems vs Repugs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Just now, HSR said: That's part of the issue, he's such a narcissist that he can't help but toot his own horn whenever and wherever he can. People see that and forget what he actually did and just see the moron tweeting or talking. He's his own worst enemy. Yes but policy wise he is pragmatic. I think he does some of the wild stuff just for his entertainment. But again his policy seems to be more geared towards US long term success. And some of it is not that conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Neither Trump nor Biden is putting forth a decent path for the country. Neal You're a fucking idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 39 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Thats gullibility at its finest. Trump gives zero shits for the average Joe like you and I. Neal OK so pick Biden. It’s A or B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: OK so pick Biden. It’s A or B. Biden doesn’t even know there is citizens though! I’m picking C. I’m not voting for either Trump or Biden. Neal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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