Snake Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, akvanden said: What do you think proactively reaching out to the FBI in the days following J6 does for him? What goodwill will it buy for him in trial? "Hi, I'm on the 10 most wanted list, and I'd like to earn some good will by reaching out to you...." "Ok... let him go." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, akvanden said: What do you think proactively reaching out to the FBI in the days following J6 does for him? What goodwill will it buy for him in trial? Answer my questions first. 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Dude I was being sarcastic because they had no intention of charging him. You do understand that's what meant after I posted it....right? You refuse to answer on why you think he hasn't been charged yet while 100's and 100's have already been convicted. Most wanted list. Where is all this evidence of him being a extremist Trump supporter? Guy travels from Arizona to DC to scream at people they need to go into the capitol yet doesn't have a long social media history of that type of activity? Come on man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crnr2Crnr Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 18 minutes ago, Highmark said: Fact is there have been 100's convicted already....why hasn't he even been charged I mean after all he was on the infamous FBI jan 6 most wanted list. if I told you I'd have to kill you. this is not a threat or me exercising my first amendment rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: Answer my questions first. How rude of me. 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: You refuse to answer on why you think he hasn't been charged yet while 100's and 100's have already been convicted. Most wanted list. Where is all this evidence of him being a extremist Trump supporter? Guy travels from Arizona to DC to scream at people they need to go into the capitol yet doesn't have a long social media history of that type of activity? Come on man. I already answered that I think in part it had something to do with him proactively reaching out to the FBI and cooperating after J6. He also never entered the capitol, vandalized, or assaulted anyone, something that every other average protester that day has been charged with. He was chapter president of the Oath Keepers. Pretty extreme. He's also 67 years old - wonder why he might not have social media accounts. Hmmmm. Your turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 If Ray Epps were an agent provacateur he’d have committed suicide by now. As if the the deep state would just allow a loose end to be walking around freely. Look how quickly LHO was dispatched with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 21, 2023 35 minutes ago, akvanden said: What do you think proactively reaching out to the FBI in the days following J6 does for him? What goodwill will it buy for him in trial? Yet he stayed on the FBI Jan 6th most wanted list for another 1.5 years? Strange why they wouldn't go and arrest someone on this list and if he checked out after he called the tip line he should have been pulled off it immediately. Oh and BTW when he called the FBI tip line the only vide was him putting his arm around that kid whispering something to him. I don't believe the other video's of him saying "we need to go into the capitol" were released yet. 16 minutes ago, akvanden said: How rude of me. I already answered that I think in part it had something to do with him proactively reaching out to the FBI and cooperating after J6. He also never entered the capitol, vandalized, or assaulted anyone, something that every other average protester that day has been charged with. He was chapter president of the Oath Keepers. Pretty extreme. He's also 67 years old - wonder why he might not have social media accounts. Hmmmm. Your turn. It very well could be he is innocent because of his 1st amendment rights. Seems a bit suspicious that he would stay on their Jan 6 most wanted list for so long. Pretty clear then Trump would be as well in the DC case. They highlight parts of the speech as evidence in the indictment but illegally leave out the part where he says "peacefully and patriotically." I know plenty of people 67 or older who have a bigger social media footprint than I do. Pretty lame reason. I'll give him this much he's a fucking coward for saying all that and standing on the sidelines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yet he stayed on the FBI Jan 6th most wanted list for another 1.5 years? Strange why they wouldn't go and arrest someone on this list and if he checked out after he called the tip line he should have been pulled off it immediately. 6 months Oh and BTW when he called the FBI tip line the only vide was him putting his arm around that kid whispering something to him. I don't believe the other video's of him saying "we need to go into the capitol" were released yet. And yet the FBI had the foresight that video would come out and revolver would do a story on him, kicking off this whole charade. Amazing pre-emptive insight by the FBI to put their own man on their list to throw off the scent. It very well could be he is innocent because of his 1st amendment rights. Seems a bit suspicious that he would stay on their Jan 6 most wanted list for so long. 6 months Pretty clear then Trump would be as well in the DC case. They highlight parts of the speech as evidence in the indictment but illegally leave out the part where he says "peacefully and patriotically." There's a reason in the indictment Trump's not charged with inciting a riot. It's not easy to prove, which may very well be why Epps wasn't. I know plenty of people 67 or older who have a bigger social media footprint than I do. Pretty lame reason. See below. I'll give him this much he's a fucking coward for saying all that and standing on the sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, akvanden said: Wait so first you claim because of his age he didn't have much SM presence and now you are posting he did. All I can say is this dude.....with them throwing the book at over 1,000 people it seems strange given everything and his name on the most wanted list that no charges have been filed. If he wasn't part of the govt infiltrating so be it. He's a POS for being the coward and doing what he did. Does not excuse any violence that happened by others during the riot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, akvanden said: Wow, he fooled everyone, including you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Wow, he fooled everyone, including you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Wait so first you claim because of his age he didn't have much SM presence and now you are posting he did. I know, right? I assumed he didn't when you said so, but then I googled it so we didn't have to keep guessing! Voila! 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: All I can say is this dude.....with them throwing the book at over 1,000 people it seems strange given everything and his name on the most wanted list that no charges have been filed. I don't disagree, but again, how many of your average protesters are only being charged with inciting violence who didn't go into the capitol, vandalize, assault, etc. And the whole amazing pre-emptive insight by the FBI to put their own man on their list to throw off the scent before anyone even knew who he was. 10 minutes ago, Highmark said: If he wasn't part of the govt infiltrating so be it. He's a POS for being the coward and doing what he did. Does not excuse any violence that happened by others during the riot. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, akvanden said: I know, right? I assumed he didn't when you said so, but then I googled it so we didn't have to keep guessing! Voila! I don't disagree, but again, how many of your average protesters are only being charged with inciting violence who didn't go into the capitol, vandalize, assault, etc. And the whole amazing pre-emptive insight by the FBI to put their own man on their list to throw off the scent before anyone even knew who he was. Agreed. Bold. It wouldn't surprise me....would it you? It was getting out there about him pretty quickly. Crazier things have happened. Let's not forget....Whitey Bulger was once an FBI stooge. Comes down to it after the last 6 years I don't trust anything they say or do. Said above but remember the Gretchen Whitmer kidding thing never happens without the FBI. Hard to trust they didn't have people involved in Jan 6th. Edited August 21, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted August 21, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 hours ago, akvanden said: Says the creepy guy using first names that were never given to you. Derrr, let me google members and see what I can find so I can post about it. Derrrrrr. Adam Ive known your name since HCS days. No google needed you had it in your profile at some point Bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, akvanden said: And the whole amazing pre-emptive insight by the FBI to put their own man on their list to throw off the scent before anyone even knew who he was. our Psyop director thought it was a great idea at the time. thankfully he's been demoted to infiltrating Canadian right wing conspiracy theory targets on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, EvilBird said: Adam Ive known your name since HCS days. No google needed you had it in your profile at some point Bud. Nope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 21, 2023 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: our Psyop director thought it was a great idea at the time. thankfully he's been demoted to infiltrating Canadian right wing conspiracy theory targets on Twitter. The Gretchen Whitmer kidding was completely a FBI thing. Don't think them being involved in Jan 6th in some way is that far fetched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Highmark said: The Gretchen Whitmer kidding was completely a FBI thing. Don't think them being involved in Jan 6th in some way is that far fetched. ya know who was involved with J6? Trump Rudy Eastman Clark Flynn Bannon Stone Jones Members of Congress Fake electors Etc. Want to find an actual conspiracy? There's one staring you folks right in the face which y'all seemingly refuse to examine or believe. but please, do carry on about the alleged FBI agent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Highmark said: The Gretchen Whitmer kidding was completely a FBI thing. Don't think them being involved in Jan 6th in some way is that far fetched. 100%. Planned and paid for by the FBI. More agents than conspirators. If we had a honest media the FBI and State would of been crushed for that embarrassment. Instead, low Iq homeless guys are serving prison sentences. Fuck your eyes and common sense….here is a media link telling you the opposite. 🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Zero evidence that Epps was a fed but plenty of evidence he participated and encouraged the storming of the capital. He must have had a get out of jail card hiding somewhere... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 21, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: ya know who was involved with J6? Trump Rudy Eastman Clark Flynn Bannon Stone Jones Members of Congress Fake electors Etc. Want to find an actual conspiracy? There's one staring you folks right in the face which y'all seemingly refuse to examine or believe. but please, do carry on about the alleged FBI agent... The only conspiracies that happened in our elections in 2016 and 2020 was carried out by the FBI/DOJ, IC, Clinton campaign and Obama administration. Perpetuating false intelligence to destroy a candidate then Presidency is nothing short of a treasonous coup. Then in 2020 falsely claiming other intelligence WAS Russian disinformation when it wasn't was just as bad. Edited August 21, 2023 by Highmark 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 58 minutes ago, Cold War said: 100%. Planned and paid for by the FBI. More agents than conspirators. If we had a honest media the FBI and State would of been crushed for that embarrassment. Instead, low Iq homeless guys are serving prison sentences. Fuck your eyes and common sense….here is a media link telling you the opposite. 🙄 No, there were 9 convictions and only 2 agents. Covicted: Ty Garbin Kaleb Franks Adam Fox Barry Croft Paul Bellar Joseph M. Morrison Pete Musico Brian Higgins Shawn Fix Undercover Agents: Mark Schweers Timothy Bates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, Plissken said: No, there were 9 convictions and only 2 agents. Covicted: Ty Garbin Kaleb Franks Adam Fox Barry Croft Paul Bellar Joseph M. Morrison Pete Musico Brian Higgins Shawn Fix Undercover Agents: Mark Schweers Timothy Bates There were 2 agents left after the others had to be scrubbed from the case for various other malfeasance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 4 hours ago, akvanden said: I think he was a dumb-far right Trumper, just like there dumb far left. And yes, when you surround yourself with those who are breaking and entering, you get the book thrown at you, like the grandma. Then why didnt he go in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, old indy said: Then why didnt he go in? No clue, there were a lot of people that didn't go in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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