“Zero evidence that Ray Epps was a federal agent"

[EvilBird]

 

never gets old 

 

[Cold War]

7 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

 

never gets old 

 

He’s one of the good ones though. 

They all feel safer now that all these other Americans are serving lengthy prison sentences, but don’t seem to be concerned this dangerous lunatic is still on the loose. 

[akvanden]

14 minutes ago, Highmark said:

 

1.  He was on the Jan 6 most wanted list not the FBI overall most wanted list.   All this time and yet no charges when 1000+ others have been.  Was he in hiding or was it difficult to find him?  Maybe they could have arrested him when he was at the Senate?  Answering a question with a question doesn't answer the question. Why was he put on their list?  Simple...make him look innocent.  Now answer my question why hasn't he been charged if he was on that list for that long while 1000+ others have been? So of all the feds that were in place that day, they only put Ray Epps on their list knowing that he would be targeted at some point in the future. Makes sense. 

2.  Publicity and claim his innocent in public.   Its not illegal to lie to the media. Why not just admit he was paid by the FBI? All his troubles would be over. Instead, he just ensures he continues to be attacked by the far right. No his troubles wouldn't be over.   How would they be?  He also loses his chance at settlements if he files lawsuits.  Because he's speaking the truth of what actually happened? Do you think the attacks on him would have continued had he just come out from the beginning when all the stories started to run on him? The lawsuits came years later, unless, the hope that the truth would never come out so he could sue, years later.

3. Likely felt he was a target from some. He was, why not just admit he was paid by the FBI. Wouldn't that make him a larger target? No, it would make him the hero of the far right for exposing the 'truth'

4. Just what exactly do you think the Senate could or would do to him for lying.   Fuck man people do it all the time including officials in high govt positions.   Again, not answering the question. WHY IS HE KEEPING THE LIE GOING? Be a whistle blower and be immediately loved by the far right by exposing the corrupt govt.  Setting up those people would make him loved?   You've got to be shitting me.    Exposing the truth out have, yes. Generally whistleblowers are. 

5. Dude his face was all over social media.   His family was already involved. The far right looking up his family on social media doesn't really move to the level of nationally televised. Does his wife know or is he lying to her too? Does his daugther know?  Don't know don't care.   The family doesn't change the fact the FBI has done nothing with him. You should care, because it speaks to the logic behind the decisions, OR LACK THEREOF. 

6. Money...look how quick they settled previously with Dominion. That's what happens when the case is pretty overwhelming. 

7. See number 6.

8. See number 6.  Every lawsuit automatically means the are innocent.   When it's void of any evidence saying otherwise, yeah. 

9. He claimed that in early July and guess what....hasn't been charged yet. And how will you blow it off when he is? How will it be downplayed? What are they waiting for....come on answer that question.  100's and 100's have already been convicted. I have to assume it has something to do with proactively cooperating with the FBI in the immediate days following J6. I have no issues with him being charge.

No offense man but damn you a good little gov. minion.  No offense, but you're gullible as shit. You're clearly one of the smarter ones here, but bit after bit of new info continues to trickle out indicating that he isn't in fact a fed, and you just dig your heals in.  

What will it take for you to change your mind? Do you just need him to be changed or is that all part of the ruse too?  Simple.....charged and convicted in the manner so many others have been.   Until then I will believe he was put in there by the DOJ. Will be good enough to charge and convict? Even 2+ years later? Or will that cause an issue. 

Mr Epps's image was included on the FBI Capitol Violence most wanted list, but it was removed around July last year. While there is any number of reasons as to why he is no longer on the FBI's list or hasn't been charged, none have been given by either Mr Epps's attorneys or the authorities. If you read the lawsuit, he contacted the FBI the next day. I wonder why they would keep him on the list if he's no longer wanted at-large?  Again....why has he not been arrested and charged? As mentioned above, I assume it has something to do with proactively reaching out and cooperating in the days following J6. I have no issues with him being charged.

 

28 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Why won't the FBI come out and talk about the people they had in place?  I'm not talking about naming them I'm just saying they could come clean and say we were concerned about what was going on so we put X amount of people in place.   They did not encourage the riot but just were collecting evidence. 

Because those aren't the people you're concerned about. What if they did, how long until it's twisted into "see, we TOLD you the feds were there" while completely ignoring the "They did not encourage the riot but just were collecting evidence" part that you say. 

[akvanden]

34 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Fuck man I never said they couldn't find him I'm saying they simply were never going to charge him.   I was being sarcastic about them finding him.   If he had turned states evidence (flip) the public would know this. 

I have literally not seen one other video at the rally of someone screaming that they need to go into the capitol.  Only him.    

 

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

On the infamous most wanted list for a year and a half but the amazing FBI couldn't find him.    

But you did. 

[old indy]

1 hour ago, akvanden said:

Agree, all the more reason NOT to trot your life out in public. 

You say that like he did it on his own.    he went into hiding but thanks to people like Rand Paul he wasnt able to hide forever.  why dont you tell us why he was at the capitol insighting people to riot, then the moment they do, he runs away.  why would he do this???

[Highmark]

5 minutes ago, akvanden said:

 

But you did. 

Dude I was being sarcastic because they had no intention of charging him.  You do understand that's what meant after I posted it....right?  

You refuse to answer on why you think he hasn't been charged yet while 100's and 100's have already been convicted.   Most wanted list.    

Where is all this evidence of him being a extremist Trump supporter?  Guy travels from Arizona to DC to scream at people they need to go into the capitol yet doesn't have a long social media history of that type of activity?     Come on man. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Highmark

[EvilBird]

Factchecker Adam Fagvanden to the rescue 

[akvanden]

2 minutes ago, old indy said:

You say that like he did it on his own.    he went into hiding but thanks to people like Rand Paul he wasnt able to hide forever.  why dont you tell us why he was at the capitol insighting people to riot, then the moment they do, he runs away.  why would he do this???

1) I can't explain why ALOT of people did what they did that day. 

2) He's a moron. If he was a fed none of this actions post J6 make any sense, unless he had some grand master 3 year plan laid out so he could ultimately sue someone, all the while hoping the truth never comes out. It's all very fantastical. 

[akvanden]

3 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

Factchecker Adam Fagvanden to the rescue 

Says the creepy guy using first names that were never given to you. 

Derrr, let me google members and see what I can find so I can post about it. Derrrrrr. 

[Highmark]

The case against Epps is a weak first amendment case.   If not part of the govt infiltrators then its clear they don't want to charge him as a judge might just throw it out on first amendment grounds then oops....the same thing would need to be done in Trump's DC case. 

There really can only be 3 reasons why he hasn't been charged yet.   He turned states evidence which the public would know.   He was part of the FBI's infiltration which we will never know.   He's not guilty of anything by simply yelling "we need to go into the capitol."   Which was much more inflammatory than anything in Trump's speech. 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Highmark

[old indy]

14 minutes ago, akvanden said:

1) I can't explain why ALOT of people did what they did that day. 

2) He's a moron. If he was a fed none of this actions post J6 make any sense, unless he had some grand master 3 year plan laid out so he could ultimately sue someone, all the while hoping the truth never comes out. It's all very fantastical. 

So you think hes just a shit stirrer and had no ulterior motives?   For three days he encouraged people to break the law and yet he walked away while grandmA who said nothing to anyone around her but walked through doors opened by capitol police are jailed.   fantastical is right.    

[Crnr2Crnr]

31 minutes ago, old indy said:

You say that like he did it on his own.    he went into hiding but thanks to people like Rand Paul he wasnt able to hide forever.  why dont you tell us why he was at the capitol insighting people to riot, then the moment they do, he runs away.  why would he do this???

I was on the grassy knoll. 

 

[old indy]

The clown posse rides hard today                                                                                                          

[Crnr2Crnr]

5 minutes ago, Highmark said:

The case against Epps is a weak first amendment case.   If not part of the govt infiltrators then its clear they don't want to charge him as a judge might just throw it out on first amendment grounds then oops....the same thing would need to be done in Trump's DC case. 

There really can only be 3 reasons why he hasn't been charged yet.   He turned states evidence which the public would know.   He was part of the FBI's infiltration which we will never know.   He's not guilty of anything by simply yelling "we need to go into the capitol."   Which was much more inflammatory than anything in Trump's speech. 

so... was everyone who yelled 'lets go into the Capital' a fed or part of some elaborate Psyop... or the only one who got caught?  

[Highmark]

1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

so... was everyone who yelled 'lets go into the Capital' a fed or part of some elaborate Psyop... or the only one who got caught?  

Care to post up a video of anyone else screaming it in multiple locations like he was?

It was obvious those around him were suspicious of his activity. 

[ArcticCrusher]

2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

so... was everyone who yelled 'lets go into the Capital' a fed or part of some elaborate Psyop... or the only one who got caught?  

Tell us you're a retard without telling us you're a retard.

Read that again slowly.

[akvanden]

1 minute ago, old indy said:

So you think hes just a shit stirrer and had no ulterior motives?   For three days he encouraged people to break the law and yet he walked away while grandmA who said nothing to anyone around her but walked through doors opened by capitol police are jailed.   fantastical is right.    

I think he was a dumb-far right Trumper, just like there dumb far left. And yes, when you surround yourself with those who are breaking and entering, you get the book thrown at you, like the grandma. 

[ArcticCrusher]

Just now, akvanden said:

I think he was a dumb-far right Trumper, just like there dumb far left. And yes, when you surround yourself with those who are breaking and entering, you get the book thrown at you, like the grandma. 

If that were even remotely true he would have been long booked and in prison.

[Crnr2Crnr]

5 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Care to post up a video of anyone else screaming it in multiple locations like he was?

It was obvious those around him were suspicious of his activity. 

be patient, we have a crack team of specialists examining the footage and editing out all of our operatives involvement. 

 

[ArcticCrusher]

Just now, Crnr2Crnr said:

be patient, we have a crack team of specialists examining the footage and editing out all of our operatives involvement. 

 

Brainwashed moron.

[Crnr2Crnr]

2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Brainwashed moron.

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[Highmark]

9 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

be patient, we have a crack team of specialists examining the footage and editing out all of our operatives involvement. 

 

Fact is there have been 100's convicted already....why hasn't he even been charged I mean after all he was on the infamous FBI jan 6 most wanted list. 

[ArcticCrusher]

6 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

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[Guest]

49 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Says the creepy guy using first names that were never given to you. 

Derrr, let me google members and see what I can find so I can post about it. Derrrrrr. 

I sincerely hope this isn't the case.  That kind of stuff isn't tolerated around here. If it is true I suggest the members drop it right now. Nothing good will come of it 

[akvanden]

2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Fact is there have been 100's convicted already....why hasn't he even been charged I mean after all he was on the infamous FBI jan 6 most wanted list. 

What do you think proactively reaching out to the FBI in the days following J6 does for him? What goodwill will it buy for him in trial?