old indy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 you and SR drink from the same well dont you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Highmark said: People seem to forget what can be included in that group that believe the election was unconstitutional in some states. Its not corrupt voting or counting machines. Its not dems voting for dead people. Its not suspicious changes to the count totals on live TV. Its state and local leaders changing voting rules without the consent or passing by state legislatures. Something completely unconstitutional. Just because the courts didn't have the courage to take this up on procedural grounds doesn't mean its not valid. A few did rule that changes to voting was unconstitutional just long after the fact. https://will-law.org/teigen-v-wisconsin-elections-commission/ On July 8, 2022, Wisconsin Supreme Court held that absentee ballot drop boxes, used widely in the 2020 election, have no statutory authorization and Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) guidance encouraging their use was unlawful. Wasn't it still the same for both sides in those cases? If not throw all the votes out from both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 19 minutes ago, old indy said: You really ARe confused. i told you to look up what i already know. you are afraid to do so. dont think your unwillingness to look beyond the end of your nose is anything but ignorance. Speaking of confused, why would he look up with what you "already know"? Ignorance is believing in your faith with nothing to show why you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 58 minutes ago, racer254 said: I have given just one example of fraud, but you just want to continue to argue semantics instead of acknowledging the fact. You first want others to show just fraud, It was shown, then you changed it to MASS voter fraud, when that was proven, you wanted MASS voter fraud in the 2020 election. Now you want the number of dead voters. You just won't accept it and will continue to change your standards to fit the narrative. It really is just denial. Neal’s got nothing on this guy. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 16, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ckf said: Wasn't it still the same for both sides in those cases? If not throw all the votes out from both sides. 100%. Any votes that came from rules placed by something other than the legislature. Considering Biden pulled 80% of the mail in ballots what do you think the results would be especially in those 4-5 states? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: 100%. Any votes that came from rules placed by something other than the legislature. Considering Biden pulled 80% of the mail in ballots what do you think the results would be especially in those 4-5 states? The Dems have always done better with mail in voting. They embrace it instead of constantly trying to fight it like the republicans. That's something that needs to change for the republicans. Americans have gotten used to doing almost everything the easiest way possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old indy Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Speaking of confused, why would he look up with what you "already know"? Ignorance is believing in your faith with nothing to show why you believe. im not the one questioning how many dead voted, am i? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, old indy said: im not the one questioning how many dead voted, am i? No figures were posted to question. I still believe whatever “you already know” though. I know, therefore it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 16, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, ckf said: The Dems have always done better with mail in voting. They embrace it instead of constantly trying to fight it like the republicans. That's something that needs to change for the republicans. Americans have gotten used to doing almost everything the easiest way possible. Well you aren't totally correct as a significant portion of mail in ballots use to come from military and they lean R. Doesn't change the fact of the methods around distribution and collection was vastly changed in 2020 often without the consent of the state legislatures. Hell Mark Zuckerburg spent 350 million on collection sites. Do you agree with that? https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/943242106/how-private-money-from-facebooks-ceo-saved-the-2020-election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 11 minutes ago, Highmark said: Well you aren't totally correct as a significant portion of mail in ballots use to come from military and they lean R. Doesn't change the fact of the methods around distribution and collection was vastly changed in 2020 often without the consent of the state legislatures. Hell Mark Zuckerburg spent 350 million on collection sites. Do you agree with that? https://www.npr.org/2020/12/08/943242106/how-private-money-from-facebooks-ceo-saved-the-2020-election Nope, doesn't seem fair. During COVID a lot of stuff got fucked up with rules and laws getting bent and sometimes broken. There's nothing that can be do about it now. Instead of looking back and still crying foul, the republicans need to look forward. I think most Americans are tired of hearing about the 2020 election at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ckf said: Nope, doesn't seem fair. During COVID a lot of stuff got fucked up with rules and laws getting bent and sometimes broken. There's nothing that can be do about it now. Instead of looking back and still crying foul, the republicans need to look forward. I think most Americans are tired of hearing about the 2020 election at this point. The republicans are not the ones constantly writing stories and pushing indictments surrounding the 2020 election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: The republicans are not the ones constantly writing stories and pushing indictments surrounding the 2020 election. Trump continues to push the narrative. Of course the media is going to write about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, ckf said: Trump continues to push the narrative. Of course the media is going to write about it. Without the constant push for indictments and bullshit, he would have moved on just like most, but the media keeps making it relevant. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, ckf said: Trump continues to push the narrative. Of course the media is going to write about it. He set a dangerous precedent by not outright accepting the election results and it will continue to hurt your democracy for years. Elections will forever be questioned hence forth. 1 minute ago, racer254 said: he would have moved on just like most You can't be serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, HSR said: You can't be serious. Show me one time in the last 6 months that trump started the narrative. Sorry, right now he is just reacting to the left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Without the constant push for indictments and bullshit, he would have moved on just like most, but the media keeps making it relevant. LOL, his ego won't allow him to move past it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Show me one time in the last 6 months that trump started the narrative. Sorry, right now he is just reacting to the left. You're funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, ckf said: LOL, his ego won't allow him to move past it. Maybe, but neither does the media, nor the democrats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, HSR said: You're funny Just like I said, reactionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: Maybe, but neither does the media, nor the democrats. Because he drives it! if he had admitted defeat, there wouldn't be anything to talk about 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ckf said: Because he drives it! if he had admitted defeat, there wouldn't be anything to talk about Give it a rest, both sides are causing distractions. One side has mostly moved on, but the other side keeps bringing it back up. trump haters keep him more on the fore front of the media spotlight than any other group right now. Again, if he was constantly bringing it up first, it may change how he is viewed, but that just isn't happening. Just look at this forum. trump threads all seem to be started by trump haters. Edited August 16, 2023 by racer254 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 54 minutes ago, ckf said: The Dems have always done better with mail in voting. They embrace it instead of constantly trying to fight it like the republicans. That's something that needs to change for the republicans. Americans have gotten used to doing almost everything the easiest way possible. hypocrisy in action... https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/03/09/trump-votes-by-mail-again-despite-months-of-voter-fraud-claims/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: Give it a rest, both sides are causing distractions. One side has mostly moved on, but the other side keeps bringing it back up. trump haters keep him more on the fore front of the media spotlight than any other group right now. Again, if he was constantly bringing it up first, it may change how he is viewed, but that just isn't happening. Just look at this forum. trump threads all seem to be started by trump haters. I just started a Mike Pence thread specifically for you... Have at it sunshine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: I just started a Mike Pence thread specifically for you... Have at it sunshine. Oh goody. Another complaint about a republican, by you???? Say it isn't so. Is trump in the conversation yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 41 minutes ago, ckf said: Trump continues to push the narrative. Of course the media is going to write about it. Hillary pushed the narrative for years after her loss complete with book tour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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