Deephaven Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Ways. Lol. Hope you don't spell yield yayld on your signs. Fucking dumbass. Cat claimed to leap and didn't even catch up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted July 25, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Estart ways more than 10 lbs. Again battery and starter and wiring is 22-25 lbs. You cant change that. Shot is not estart. Apples to apples. Wet weight is all that matters, real world. 600 has no shot start it’s electric start and sorry the 137 version with e-start to be fair is 484 129 is 480. So according to the factory e-start is a 14lb option not 22-25. It’s a perfectly fair comparison and cat is still falling short of the competition. Edited July 25, 2023 by 800renegaderider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: 600 has no shot start it’s electric start and sorry the 137 version with e-start to be fair is 484 129 is 480. So according to the factory e-start is a 14lb option not 22-25. It’s a perfectly fair comparison and cat is still falling short of the competition. So the battery is made of helium? I'm not a betting man, but cats RXC NON ES will be lighter, and does ES weighs quite a bit more than 14 lbs. Oh, wait. No pull start on the ES models. This is so easy, I might retire early and defunk the BS for profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 But again, arguing about dry weights is stupid. Unless you believe in the easter bunny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted July 25, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted July 25, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: But again, arguing with a pot hole filler about dry weights is stupid. I agree 👍 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: I agree 👍 I design the roads you drive on. Other than that, you are an idiot. Ooh, look what I did with his post. I am so fek! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 6 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: I design the roads you drive on. Other than that, you are an idiot. Ooh, look what I did with his post. I am so fek! Such an important person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 2 hours ago, awful knawful said: Such an important person. No. Just not an awful person like yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 dry weight wet weight wet weight with a fat person on it weight wet weight with a fat person who has been drinking, eating bar food all day weight the list goes on... wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleflipper Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 12 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: dry weight wet weight wet weight with a fat person on it weight wet weight with a fat person who has been drinking, eating bar food all day weight the list goes on... wait You missed the wet weight with a Dunce riding it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 9 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: I design the roads you drive on. Other than that, you are an idiot. Ooh, look what I did with his post. I am so fek! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 42 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: No. Just not an awful person like yourself. Awful? How? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 8 minutes ago, awful knawful said: Awful? How? Calling homophobic names. Breathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 9 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: I design the roads you drive on. Other than that, you are an idiot. Ooh, look what I did with his post. I am so fek! You never stop with the bullshit and lies... You don't design shit, you hold a stop sign, and get coffee for the people with real degrees that do the actual work. Hell, the county website makes it look like you aren't even the senior coffee fetcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Calling homophobic names. Breathing. You are always the one that starts all the gay shit....... Edited July 25, 2023 by krom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 10 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: Add up the wiring, the controllers, servos, etc. It is closer to 10. No one offers non electric start anymore on trail sleds, though you could get the RXC without. As usual you are a wrong, and a moron... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premium Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 So for kicks I weighed a spare sled battery, just under 15lbs. So I figure for the whole e-start setup including starter ring gear it is probably around 20lbs. A gallon of coolant and 3 quarts of oil are around 17lbs combined. Based on that, 499 - (17+20) = 462 lbs for the hardcore R-XC 137. Heavier than I would have liked to see, but possibly still the lightest on the market for 600 trail sleds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 21 minutes ago, krom said: As usual you are a wrong, and a moron... Wiring plus the Servo's on the shocks. You are the moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, krom said: You are always the one that starts all the gay shit....... No, but you sure come running when you hear the word gay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Tripleflipper said: You missed the wet weight with a Dunce riding it under 50mph fixed it for you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Wiring plus the Servo's on the shocks. You are the moron. No end to your bullshit and stupidity.. How many IQS shocks have you picked up, how many standard ifp, or qs3 shocks??? 0, maybe 1. How much do you think those tiny stepper motors weigh (they are not servos) BTW "Servo's" isn't the plural of servo There is less than 10' of wire for the shocks on the entire sled. Edited July 25, 2023 by krom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 23 minutes ago, Premium said: So for kicks I weighed a spare sled battery, just under 15lbs. So I figure for the whole e-start setup including starter ring gear it is probably around 20lbs. A gallon of coolant and 3 quarts of oil are around 17lbs combined. Based on that, 499 - (17+20) = 462 lbs for the hardcore R-XC 137. Heavier than I would have liked to see, but possibly still the lightest on the market for 600 trail sleds. battery, starter, ring gear and wiring... @mnstang removed them from a 800 H/C and I believe it was around 25lbs thinking back a bit, they never told us precisely which sled by comparison the Catalyst was 10% lighter than... did they? they don't publish weights often so using this as a comparative baseline of 512lbs... https://www.snowmobile.com/specs/arctic-cat/trail/2020/zr-6000/limited-137-ars-ii.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 1 minute ago, krom said: No end to your bullshit and stupidity.. How many IQS shocks have you picked up, how many standard ifp, or qs3 shocks??? 0, maybe 1. How much do you think those tiny stepper motors weigh (they are not servos) BTW Servo's isn't the plural of servo There is less than 10' of wire for the shocks on the entire sled. It adds up dipshit! compared to the base shocks without the reservoir's, I would say it is probably closer to 15 lbs, but you are the expert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted July 25, 2023 Author Share Posted July 25, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: It adds up dipshit! compared to the base shocks without the reservoir's, I would say it is probably closer to 15 lbs, but you are the expert. And as usual you would be completely wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 7 minutes ago, krom said: No end to your bullshit and stupidity.. How many IQS shocks have you picked up, how many standard ifp, or qs3 shocks??? 0, maybe 1. How much do you think those tiny stepper motors weigh (they are not servos) BTW Servo's isn't the plural of servo There is less than 10' of wire for the shocks on the entire sled. more importantly... how much do snow trackers weigh, what's the loudest CAN for this new sleigh... and does this helmet make my ass look fat? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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