Premium Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I believe the protos had 3D printed panels...could be a weight difference there for a production model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: take a picture of the weight listed in your manual and post it for us. I was half joking. A 10% weight reduction on something which typically clocks in around 500-600lbs is rather significant and I'm curious to know where and how they trimmed 50-60lbs. The majority of standard components don't weigh any less than the pro-series sleds. It's a fairly bold weight reduction claim on their behalf... that I hope they back up in production. It is a bold claim and I would also appreciate it being backed up. I believe it was all word of mouth, cat reps telling media. I wonder if there was some miscommunication, like maybe just the chassis itself is 10% lighter, but not the whole sled. And then reps go around saying it's 10% lighter. Who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I went and looked and they no longer give the estimated wet weight. For my 22 rr, it holds 6.4 quarts of coolant or approx, 14 lbs. The oil weighs 6 lbs sled holds 3.25. So rounding up, 5 lbs. 19 lbs. The Catalist holds 3 quarts of oil, so assuming the coolant capacity is similar, 499 - 18 lbs for coolant and oil, dry weight for the 137 with E start is around 480 lbs. Take the RXC without is around 455. Dry weight of my RR states 497. Add in fluids about 580. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, mnstang said: It is a bold claim and I would also appreciate it being backed up. I believe it was all word of mouth, cat reps telling media. I wonder if there was some miscommunication, like maybe just the chassis itself is 10% lighter, but not the whole sled. And then reps go around saying it's 10% lighter. Who knows. agreed, I can see the actual chassis lightening by 10% (a few lbs) but not the entire sled unless it's all carbon, titanium and fifty thousand dollars. major places they can't or won't likely be able to shave very much weight. track and skid engine, fuel and exhaust system front suspension and steering few lbs here and there with wiring, smaller seat, body panels, headlamp... but I'm just very doubtful they shaved 10% of the entire weight from the pro chassis. 500lbs seems about normal for an average Doo and Poo 600 class sled so if their in the same weight class and relative HP category the performance should be on an equal plane. Handling is where it hopefully shines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) This is from an old 2002 I had. Both dry and curb weight was in the manual. Edited July 26, 2023 by ZR6000RR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, ZR6000RR said: This is from an old 2002 I had. Both dry and curb weight was in the manual. Ah, so you were WRONG....as usual. Not listed for your ProChump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I know that my 2019 cat listed the weight on its spec sheet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Ah, so you were WRONG....as usual. Not listed for your ProChump? some of us actually know where and how to find stuff... https://support.countrycat.com/?home_feed=feed&taxonomy_59981_taxa=d0dc9c8a-921a-4c21-a567-5aca54fbaf32&order=recent Sno Pro 500 was listed as 450lbs dry weight in the race manual. I have my brothers race manual at home and will see if the dry weight is listed. Edit: 476 for the RXC and 452 for the SX Edited July 26, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 3 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: This is from an old 2002 I had. Both dry and curb weight was in the manual. 1 hour ago, Deephaven said: Ah, so you were WRONG....as usual. Not listed for your ProChump? He's proud of how often he talks shit about things he's clueless about, shows everyone he can, as often as possible. He wouldn't have posted that pic, if he was smart enough to realize in doing so, he proved himself wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 hours ago, ZR6000RR said: I went and looked and they no longer give the estimated wet weight. For my 22 rr, it holds 6.4 quarts of coolant or approx, 14 lbs. The oil weighs 6 lbs sled holds 3.25. So rounding up, 5 lbs. 19 lbs. The Catalist holds 3 quarts of oil, so assuming the coolant capacity is similar, 499 - 18 lbs for coolant and oil, dry weight for the 137 with E start is around 480 lbs. Take the RXC without is around 455. Dry weight of my RR states 497. Add in fluids about 580. My new Renegade XRS will be heavier, and faster, and more comfortable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, krom said: He's proud of how often he talks shit about things he's clueless about, shows everyone he can, as often as possible. He wouldn't have posted that pic, if he was smart enough to realize in doing so, he proved himself wrong. Hey dipshit. I stated that I was wrong. Read much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, awful knawful said: My new Renegade XRS will be heavier, and faster, and more comfortable. Sure it will. Doo's are so well known for great handling. NOT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: Sure it will. Doo's are so well known for great handling. NOT! That cat better handle because 120hp. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, awful knawful said: That cat better handle because 120hp. More than enough in the land of speed limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said: More than enough in the land of speed limits. Yeah, we don't have limits here, were not pussies. If there were I'd be on an Expedition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, awful knawful said: Yeah, we don't have limits here, were not pussies. If there were I'd be on an Expedition. We know you don't like pussy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, ZR6000RR said: More than enough in the land of speed limits. My grandma wants more power than that. So many cops with radar guns. Fucking pussy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Deephaven said: My grandma wants more power than that. So many cops with radar guns. Fucking pussy A 120 would be to much for a shithead like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: A 120 would be to much for a shithead like you. Gladly race you anytime. You choose my ride. I can bring either a 500 snopro or an 850 136 whatever you prefer. We can meet at elk river on open night so you don't have to break the 50mph law. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Gladly race you anytime. You choose my ride. I can bring either a 500 snopro or an 850 136 whatever you prefer. We can meet at elk river on open night so you don't have to break the 50mph law. I don't race anymore. 56 years old, so how I ride is my choice. Other than that, go fuck yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: I don't race anymore. 56 years old, so how I ride is my choice. Other than that, go fuck yourself. 56 acts like 12. Good job. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, awful knawful said: 56 acts like 12. Good job. No. Just the age of the idiots stalking my posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 hour ago, awful knawful said: Yeah, we don't have limits here, were not pussies. If there were I'd be on an Expedition. There's probably a large number of riders that can handle you with a 600 just saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, mnstang said: There's probably a large number of riders that can handle you with a 600 just saying But we all know "not Jimmy".. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted July 26, 2023 Author Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 hours ago, awful knawful said: My new Renegade XRS will be heavier, and faster, and more comfortable. You must be 5'2" if you think the xrs is more comfortable. At 6'4" riding the doo feels like a monkey fucking a football. 50 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: I don't race anymore. 56 years old, so how I ride is my choice. Other than that, go fuck yourself. You've never raced because you know that your ass has never been able to cash any of the checks your mouth writes 45 minutes ago, awful knawful said: 56 acts like 12. Good job. Honestly 12 is giving him credit. its far above his intelligence, vocabulary, and grammar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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