Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 14 hours ago, Mag6240 said: They would use FACTS when campaigning - that would be boring and without promises/lies that make people vote for them (See Student Debt Cancellation for one example) good counterpoint, people hate inconvenient facts and logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 16 hours ago, Highmark said: Like I said....American's couldn't handle the Austerity needed to put our financial house in order. You mean the destruction of the middle class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Covid and unprecedented unfunded spending Doug? Covid = A convenient excuse to point at to justify unrelated uncontrolled spending. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Doug said: Covid = A convenient excuse to point at to justify unrelated uncontrolled spending. do you have any clue what our elected idiots including Trump and Biden spent just on stimulus and PPP loans... any idea? this isn't complicated all this went on the credit card... https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/03/11/covid-19-stimulus-how-much-do-coronavirus-relief-bills-cost/4602942001/ Edited May 17, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 25 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: do you have any clue what our elected idiots including Trump and Biden spent just on stimulus and PPP loans... any idea? this isn't complicated all this went on the credit card... https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/03/11/covid-19-stimulus-how-much-do-coronavirus-relief-bills-cost/4602942001/ It is a fucking spending problem. Biden passed the 1.9 Trillion dollar Covid relief bill, the BIGGEST spending bill in US HISTORY Without ONE GOP vote for it. And now there is a bill to cut spending and not one democrat will vote for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: It is a fucking spending problem. Biden passed the 1.9 Trillion dollar Covid relief bill, the BIGGEST spending bill in US HISTORY Without ONE GOP vote for it. And now there is a bill to cut spending and not one democrat will vote for that. i know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 50 minutes ago, spin_dry said: You mean the destruction of the middle class. Are you claiming the middle class cannot survive without govt assistance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 37 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: do you have any clue what our elected idiots including Trump and Biden spent just on stimulus and PPP loans... any idea? this isn't complicated all this went on the credit card... https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/03/11/covid-19-stimulus-how-much-do-coronavirus-relief-bills-cost/4602942001/ Yes I know. Ukraine oh you need more money and equipment. Here you go. Immigrants here's your credit card, cell phone, transportation to your free lodging and don't forget your free health care. Yet social security is scheduled to run out of money by 2033 now. What you have good credit? Here's your penalties and you can pay more to help out the deadbeats that are not responsible enough for their own bills. Let's not forget the ones that are on federal and state aid. And don't worry about those bills that are floating around that will make you go our and look for a job. We'll take care of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Doug said: Yes I know. Ukraine oh you need more money and equipment. Here you go. Immigrants here's your credit card, cell phone, transportation to your free lodging and don't forget your free health care. Yet social security is scheduled to run out of money by 2033 now. What you have good credit? Here's your penalties and you can pay more to help out the deadbeats that are not responsible enough for their own bills. Let's not forget the ones that are on federal and state aid. And don't worry about those bills that are floating around that will make you go our and look for a job. We'll take care of them. Which party is constantly pushing these....let me point it out. Ukraine -- DEMOCRATS Immigrants -- DEMOCRATS SS funding -- DEMOCRATS Credit penalty -- DEMOCRATS Welfare -- DEMOCRATS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: do you have any clue what our elected idiots including Trump and Biden spent just on stimulus and PPP loans... any idea? this isn't complicated all this went on the credit card... https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2021/03/11/covid-19-stimulus-how-much-do-coronavirus-relief-bills-cost/4602942001/ Honestly I put much more blame on the lies the medical and scientific community were pushing than the govt. They knew fairly early on who needed protecting. They knew even before vaccine testing that this type of vaccine didn't prevent infection yet they pushed fear and we can't do anything until the jab comes out. Something had to be done as business' were forced to shut down and most American's are too stupid to have a rainy day fund set aside. Don't get me wrong how the govt handled it was a bad, knee jerk reaction but state and local govts can't simply force business' to close without doing something.....there literally would have been violent unrest. IF our financial house was in order to start with COVID loans and giveaways wouldn't have been as big as deal. Edited May 17, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Which party is constantly pushing these....let me point it out. Ukraine -- DEMOCRATS Immigrants -- DEMOCRATS SS funding -- DEMOCRATS Credit penalty -- DEMOCRATS Welfare -- DEMOCRATS Trump was suppose to fix the health care system. What happened to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Steve753 said: Trump was suppose to fix the health care system. What happened to that? Deflect deflect deflect. What about this. You are a good little swamp rat to follow along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Deflect deflect deflect. What about this. You are a good little swamp rat to follow along. How's that deflecting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 The swamp extends deeply into both parties....isolating one is stupid as shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Deephaven said: The swamp extends deeply into both parties....isolating one is stupid as shit. Let's blame it on trump. That's a great idea, exonerates everyone in the swamp. Even though it sounds even dumber than isolating swamp creatures in office for almost 50 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Steve753 said: How's that deflecting? Bringing up trump and healthcare with just the statement that he was supposed to "fix" it? That blanket statement for the first time in 5 pages is deflecting in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, racer254 said: Let's blame it on trump. That's a great idea, exonerates everyone in the swamp. Even though it sounds even dumber than isolating swamp creatures in office for almost 50 years. Sounds like that is what you want. I said jack shit about Trump, just that the swamp is on both sides. Since you brought him up he did nothing about it sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, racer254 said: Let's blame it on trump. That's a great idea, exonerates everyone in the swamp. Even though it sounds even dumber than isolating swamp creatures in office for almost 50 years. Trump said he was going to drain the swamp after all. And hey look what he does hires everyone from the swamp. Edited May 17, 2023 by Steve753 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Deephaven said: Sounds like that is what you want. I said jack shit about Trump, just that the swamp is on both sides. Since you brought him up he did nothing about it sadly. Did nothing about it? Have you seen what is going on? Trump getting elected is showing what the hell is happening in washington. The problem may be that both sides have too many people on the take. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Trump said he was going to drain the swamp after all. And hey look what he does hires everyone from the swamp. Ah yes, back to this false statement. Remember, people like epstein where caught when trump was in office. We are learning more about the swamp because of trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, racer254 said: Ah yes, back to this false statement. Remember, people like epstein where caught when trump was in office. We are learning more about the swamp because of trump. Trump made sure nothing would've ever come out about him. They were pals back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, racer254 said: Did nothing about it? Have you seen what is going on? Trump getting elected is showing what the hell is happening in washington. The problem may be that both sides have too many people on the take. He didn't drain shit. Fired people he hired. That is it 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: Ah yes, back to this false statement. Remember, people like epstein where caught when trump was in office. We are learning more about the swamp because of trump. One person, lol. And that had basically nothing to do with trump anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Trump was suppose to fix the health care system. What happened to that? Well, they were spending $30 million dollars on a now proven wild goose chase on him at the time, so... If anything, I am surprised he got done what he did considering everything the left put in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Deephaven said: He didn't drain shit. Fired people he hired. That is it One person, lol. And that had basically nothing to do with trump anyways. Yeah, one person. That's it nothing to see here. I don't think people want to believe the corruption that lies in the elite and it shows by responses just from people on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 It's all good. We get it. Only the halfwits like yourself are fully informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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