Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Snake said: Well, they were spending $30 million dollars on a now proven wild goose chase on him at the time, so... If anything, I am surprised he got done what he did considering everything the left put in front of him. Trump had full control when he was elected. He did very little his first 2 years and then lost the house. Biden on the otherhand wore out 10 sharpees the first fucking day he took office. Edited May 17, 2023 by Steve753 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Steve753 said: Trump had full control when he was elected. He did very little his first w years and then lost the house. Biden on the otherhand wore out 10 sharpees the first fucking day he took office. Ok, I keep hearing that both sides are part of the swamp, yet I also am hearing how trump had full control. Trump did not have full control. Neither side was working fully with trump. Biden is writing executive orders, something trump probably wasn't as good at. That is the one issue with him being an outsider, it was very hard to get things done, but he did pretty good for the country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Maorkis (sp) still has a job after allowing millions into this country, costing this country untold billions to support. Wray still has a job, even after a scolding report that they were ass deep involved in the malicious prosecution of a sitting President. Amazing how the worse this country gets, the more some people totally disregard the facts in front of them because of a few mean Tweets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, racer254 said: It is a fucking spending problem. How is it then that Denmark, where government spending is 45.3% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of only 30% compared to the U.S., where government spending is 43% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of 126.43 ????? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, racer254 said: Ok, I keep hearing that both sides are part of the swamp, yet I also am hearing how trump had full control. Trump did not have full control. Neither side was working fully with trump. Biden is writing executive orders, something trump probably wasn't as good at. That is the one issue with him being an outsider, it was very hard to get things done, but he did pretty good for the country. Trump was good at this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Trump was good at this! Where exactly do you fall on this line of progression? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Plissken said: How is it then that Denmark, where government spending is 45.3% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of only 30% compared to the U.S., where government spending is 43% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of 126.43 ????? What point are you trying to make with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Snake said: Where exactly do you fall on this line of progression? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, racer254 said: Ok, I keep hearing that both sides are part of the swamp, yet I also am hearing how trump had full control. Trump did not have full control. Neither side was working fully with trump. Biden is writing executive orders, something trump probably wasn't as good at. That is the one issue with him being an outsider, it was very hard to get things done, but he did pretty good for the country. The only reason he lacked control was because of him. House & Senate weren't the problem. Wake up. He sucks at getting stuff done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doug said: Yes I know. Ukraine oh you need more money and equipment. Here you go. Immigrants here's your credit card, cell phone, transportation to your free lodging and don't forget your free health care. Yet social security is scheduled to run out of money by 2033 now. What you have good credit? Here's your penalties and you can pay more to help out the deadbeats that are not responsible enough for their own bills. Let's not forget the ones that are on federal and state aid. And don't worry about those bills that are floating around that will make you go our and look for a job. We'll take care of them. if you're looking for a disagreement from me on most of that, you won't get one. 53 minutes ago, racer254 said: Which party is constantly pushing these....let me point it out. Ukraine -- DEMOCRATS Immigrants -- DEMOCRATS SS funding -- DEMOCRATS Credit penalty -- DEMOCRATS Welfare -- DEMOCRATS which parties voters want lower taxes at the time of record debt previously authorized by both parties? why can't you just come out and say you want lower taxes and aren't interested in paying the tab for the previous two decades of overspending and under taxing? 52 minutes ago, Highmark said: Honestly I put much more blame on the lies the medical and scientific community were pushing than the govt. They knew fairly early on who needed protecting. They knew even before vaccine testing that this type of vaccine didn't prevent infection yet they pushed fear and we can't do anything until the jab comes out. Something had to be done as business' were forced to shut down and most American's are too stupid to have a rainy day fund set aside. Don't get me wrong how the govt handled it was a bad, knee jerk reaction but state and local govts can't simply force business' to close without doing something.....there literally would have been violent unrest. IF our financial house was in order to start with COVID loans and giveaways wouldn't have been as big as deal. Our elected idiots just whipped out the credit card and spent. Poor planning, no repayment process put in place... just pass the buck to the next batch of elected idiots. 49 minutes ago, racer254 said: Deflect deflect deflect. What about this. You are a good little swamp rat to follow along. did you or do you seriously believe for one moment that Trump, on his own was going to or can change DC? the only one who can change DC is educated voters by throwing both parties the fuck out of town. but we'll never do that because of the brainwashed two party oligarchy we've empowered. 45 minutes ago, Deephaven said: The swamp extends deeply into both parties....isolating one is stupid as shit. with certainty... 22 minutes ago, Deephaven said: He didn't drain shit. Fired people he hired. That is it One person, lol. And that had basically nothing to do with trump anyways. IDK for sure but it would be interesting to see his employee turnover rate. 20 minutes ago, Snake said: Well, they were spending $30 million dollars on a now proven wild goose chase on him at the time, so... If anything, I am surprised he got done what he did considering everything the left put in front of him. $30 million is chump change now... as is $30 billion apparently. Edited May 17, 2023 by Crnr2Crnr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: if you're looking for a disagreement from me on most of that, you won't get one. which parties voters want lower taxes at the time of record debt previously authorized by both parties? why can't you just come out and say you want lower taxes and aren't interested in paying the tab for the previous two decades of overspending and undertaking? Our elected idiots just whipped out the credit card and spent. Poor planning, no repayment process put in place... just pass the buck to the next batch of elected idiots. did you or do you seriously believe for one moment that Trump, on his own was going to or can change DC? the only one who can change DC is educated voters by throwing both parties the fuck out of town. but we'll never do that because of the brainwashed two party oligarchy we've empowered. with certainty... IDK for sure but it would be interesting to see his employee turnover rate. $30 million is chump change now... as is $30 billion apparently. It all started with the elected idiots believing the bullshit being told to them regarding the deadliness of the virus and what the vaccine would do by Fauci and his minions. The scientific community wanted this so they could mass test mRNA vaccines and test how willing the public would be to line up and get jabbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Thanks. I'm a giver... (THIS is how someone reacts to a 'slam' without getting emotional.... others (ahem) can take notice) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Snake said: I'm a giver... (THIS is how someone reacts to a 'slam' without getting emotional.... others (ahem) can take notice) At the end of the day it's just banter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: It all started with the elected idiots believing the bullshit being told to them regarding the deadliness of the virus and what the vaccine would do by Fauci and his minions. The scientific community wanted this so they could mass test mRNA vaccines and test how willing the public would be to line up and get jabbed. so Trump and every elected official just went along with it? c'mon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, racer254 said: What point are you trying to make with this? Simply undermining your point, good sir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 6 minutes ago, Steve753 said: At the end of the day it's just banter. are you attempting to say that what's discussed here isn't being monitored and implemented by people in the highest offices in the land? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: so Trump and every elected official just went along with it? c'mon... Fed govt wasn't shutting down business' and it wasn't Trump or the GOP forcing vaccinations. Yes Trump and the GOP share in the blame for the ridiculous spending but you have to admit which side was pushing the vaccine/jab agenda more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: are you attempting to say that what's discussed here isn't being monitored and implemented by people in the highest offices in the land? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Highmark said: Fed govt wasn't shutting down business' and it wasn't Trump or the GOP forcing vaccinations. Yes Trump and the GOP share in the blame for the ridiculous spending but you have to admit which side was pushing the vaccine/jab agenda more. You don't know what Trump would've done had he won. It was because of him that we got the vaccinations so fast. His words! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, Plissken said: How is it then that Denmark, where government spending is 45.3% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of only 30% compared to the U.S., where government spending is 43% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of 126.43 ????? Does revenue have anything to do with it? Denmark is an awesome country and one the US should work to emulate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Steve753 said: You don't know what Trump would've done had he won. It was because of him that we got the vaccinations so fast. His words! He never wanted it mandated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Snake said: He never wanted it mandated. Ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 36 minutes ago, Plissken said: How is it then that Denmark, where government spending is 45.3% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of only 30% compared to the U.S., where government spending is 43% of GDP has a debt to GDP ratio of 126.43 ????? that's rather inconvenient to someone that only wants his taxes lowered. debt service... 35 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Trump was good at this! 4 minutes ago, Steve753 said: You don't know what Trump would've done had he won. It was because of him that we got the vaccinations so fast. His words! in his own words... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted May 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: that's rather inconvenient to someone that only wants his taxes lowered. debt service... in his own words... He was lied too!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 17, 2023 Author Share Posted May 17, 2023 Just now, Steve753 said: He was lied too!!!! by the swamp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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