Guest Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Sleepr2 said: But lefties swooned over their dear leader? What happened to the utopia he left the world? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, HSR said: You know if you put up a ramp you wouldn't have to stumble down those stairs like that. Start taking responsibility for your life man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, HSR said: Just as clever as Jimmah the dumfuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: anyone know what the most common weapon and round used in a 'mass shooting' has been in the past twenty years? I do not... educate me Mental illness. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 7 hours ago, DriftBusta said: Mental illness. key contributing factor I'm asking for hard data on their weapon and ammunition of choice to kill as many people as possible though. anyone able to provide it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 The rise of social media is leading to the rise in mental illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, SkisNH said: The rise of social media is leading to the rise in mental illness. For sure, especially with young teenage girls. I read a stat recently that claimed that age group had very high suicide rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 25 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: key contributing factor I'm asking for hard data on their weapon and ammunition of choice to kill as many people as possible though. anyone able to provide it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 12 minutes ago, Cat45 said: thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: thank you If you got to YouTube you can find countless videos of the homies flashing pistols with 30 round magazines sticking out of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 When are the liberals going to admonish Hollywood for glorifying all the violence in the movies? I’m surprised nobody ever brings this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, Edmo said: When are the liberals going to admonish Hollywood for glorifying all the violence in the movies? I’m surprised nobody ever brings this up. I love when guys like Liam Neeson talk about gun restrictions and gun violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 lot of statistics here... where does your state rank? https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-violence-statistics/ this was also in the info you provided @Cat45 The involvement of semi-automatic rifles in mass shootings Owing to their use in several high-profile mass shootings, there has been much public discussion over suitability or necessity of assault weapons for the purpose of self-defense. While any definition of assault weapon is contentious, semi-automatic rifles are generally the main focus of debates around this issue. Since 1985 there has been a known total 58 mass shootings involving rifles, mostly semi-automatics. This figure is underreported though, as it excludes the multiple semi-automatic (and fully automatic) rifles used in the 2017 Las Vegas Strip massacre – the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, killing 58 and wounding 546. In fact, semi-automatic rifles were featured in four of the five deadliest mass shootings, being used in the Orlando nightclub massacre, Sandy Hook Elementary massacre and Texas First Baptist Church massacre. https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/ otb, would numbers such as above be difficult to attain with a handgun or shotgun? 10 deadliest US shootings of past decade all involved legally purchased guns https://abcnews.go.com/US/10-deadliest-shootings-past-decade-involved-legally-purchased/story?id=98184833 1. Oct. 1, 2017: Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas, Nevada 60 deaths 2. June 12, 2016: Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida 49 deaths 3. Nov. 5, 2017: First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas 25 deaths 4. Aug. 3, 2019: Walmart in El Paso, Texas 23 deaths 5. May 24, 2022: Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas 21 deaths 6. Feb. 14, 2018: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida 17 deaths 7. Dec. 2, 2015: Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California 14 deaths 8. Sept. 16, 2013: Navy Yard in Washington, D.C. 12 deaths 9. Nov. 7, 2018: Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks, California 12 deaths 10. May 31, 2019: Virginia Beach Municipal Center in Virginia Beach, Virginia 12 deaths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: lot of statistics here... where does your state rank? https://giffords.org/lawcenter/gun-violence-statistics/ this was also in the info you provided @Cat45 The involvement of semi-automatic rifles in mass shootings Owing to their use in several high-profile mass shootings, there has been much public discussion over suitability or necessity of assault weapons for the purpose of self-defense. While any definition of assault weapon is contentious, semi-automatic rifles are generally the main focus of debates around this issue. Since 1985 there has been a known total 58 mass shootings involving rifles, mostly semi-automatics. This figure is underreported though, as it excludes the multiple semi-automatic (and fully automatic) rifles used in the 2017 Las Vegas Strip massacre – the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, killing 58 and wounding 546. In fact, semi-automatic rifles were featured in four of the five deadliest mass shootings, being used in the Orlando nightclub massacre, Sandy Hook Elementary massacre and Texas First Baptist Church massacre. https://www.statista.com/statistics/476409/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-weapon-types-used/ otb, would numbers such as above be difficult to attain with a handgun or shotgun? 10 deadliest US shootings of past decade all involved legally purchased guns https://abcnews.go.com/US/10-deadliest-shootings-past-decade-involved-legally-purchased/story?id=98184833 1. Oct. 1, 2017: Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas, Nevada 60 deaths 2. June 12, 2016: Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Florida 49 deaths 3. Nov. 5, 2017: First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas 25 deaths 4. Aug. 3, 2019: Walmart in El Paso, Texas 23 deaths 5. May 24, 2022: Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas 21 deaths 6. Feb. 14, 2018: Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida 17 deaths 7. Dec. 2, 2015: Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino, California 14 deaths 8. Sept. 16, 2013: Navy Yard in Washington, D.C. 12 deaths 9. Nov. 7, 2018: Borderline Bar & Grill in Thousand Oaks, California 12 deaths 10. May 31, 2019: Virginia Beach Municipal Center in Virginia Beach, Virginia 12 deaths In the vegas shooting yes those numbers would be tough to get withoutva rifle because of the range. The closer the range the more deadly a shotgun or handgun would be. A rifle really isn't the best tool for the job when going room to room clearing buildings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Cat45 said: In the vegas shooting yes those numbers would be tough to get withoutva rifle because of the range. The closer the range the more deadly a shotgun or handgun would be. A rifle really isn't the best tool for the job when going room to room clearing buildings. while trying to ascertain more data... https://www.everytown.org/what-is-an-assault-weapon/ https://everytownresearch.org/stat/mass-shootings-that-involved-an-assault-weapon-account-for-25-of-all-mass-shootings-deaths/ https://everytownresearch.org/stat/mass-shootings-that-involved-an-assault-weapon-account-for-76-of-nonfatal-injuries/ https://everytownresearch.org/stat/from-2015-2022-shootings-with-four-or-more-people-killed-where-assault-weapons-were-used-resulted-in-more-than-twice-as-many-people-killed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 AAST 2018 PODIUM PAPER Changes in US mass shooting deaths associated with the 1994–2004 federal assault weapons ban: Analysis of open-source data DiMaggio, Charles PhD, MPH; Avraham, Jacob MD; Berry, Cherisse MD; Bukur, Marko MD; Feldman, Justin ScD; Klein, Michael MD; Shah, Noor MD; Tandon, Manish MD; Frangos, Spiros MD, MPH Author Information Journal of Trauma and Acute Care Surgery 86(1):p 11-19, January 2019. | DOI: 10.1097/TA.0000000000002060 BUY CME TEST Metrics Abstract BACKGROUND A federal assault weapons ban has been proposed as a way to reduce mass shootings in the United States. The Federal Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 made the manufacture and civilian use of a defined set of automatic and semiautomatic weapons and large capacity magazines illegal. The ban expired in 2004. The period from 1994 to 2004 serves as a single-arm pre-post observational study to assess the effectiveness of this policy intervention. METHODS Mass shooting data for 1981 to 2017 were obtained from three well-documented, referenced, and open-source sets of data, based on media reports. We calculated the yearly rates of mass shooting fatalities as a proportion of total firearm homicide deaths and per US population. We compared the 1994 to 2004 federal ban period to non-ban periods, using simple linear regression models for rates and a Poison model for counts with a year variable to control for trend. The relative effects of the ban period were estimated with odds ratios. RESULTS Assault rifles accounted for 430 or 85.8% of the total 501 mass-shooting fatalities reported (95% confidence interval, 82.8–88.9) in 44 mass-shooting incidents. Mass shootings in the United States accounted for an increasing proportion of all firearm-related homicides (coefficient for year, 0.7; p = 0.0003), with increment in year alone capturing over a third of the overall variance in the data (adjusted R2 = 0.3). In a linear regression model controlling for yearly trend, the federal ban period was associated with a statistically significant 9 fewer mass shooting related deaths per 10,000 firearm homicides (p = 0.03). Mass-shooting fatalities were 70% less likely to occur during the federal ban period (relative rate, 0.30; 95% confidence interval, 0.22–0.39). CONCLUSION Mass-shooting related homicides in the United States were reduced during the years of the federal assault weapons ban of 1994 to 2004. LEVEL OF EVIDENCE Observational, level II/IV. https://journals.lww.com/jtrauma/Abstract/2019/01000/Changes_in_US_mass_shooting_deaths_associated_with.2.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Chicago Tops 630 Homicides, 2,600 Shootings in 2022: https://news.wttw.com/2022/12/01/chicago-tops-630-homicides-2600-shootings-2022-police Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, Sleepr2 said: Chicago Tops 630 Homicides, 2,600 Shootings in 2022: https://news.wttw.com/2022/12/01/chicago-tops-630-homicides-2600-shootings-2022-police This definitely applies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted April 23, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: key contributing factor I'm asking for hard data on their weapon and ammunition of choice to kill as many people as possible though. anyone able to provide it? Probably a handgun as these shooting occur daily. They obviously dont get the exposure as a school shooting as no one is surprised by gang bangers shooting shit up. S there is no shock factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2023/03/did-assault-weapon-ban-correspond-with-drop-in-mass-shootings-what-the-data-shows.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: while trying to ascertain more data... https://www.everytown.org/what-is-an-assault-weapon/ https://everytownresearch.org/stat/mass-shootings-that-involved-an-assault-weapon-account-for-25-of-all-mass-shootings-deaths/ https://everytownresearch.org/stat/mass-shootings-that-involved-an-assault-weapon-account-for-76-of-nonfatal-injuries/ https://everytownresearch.org/stat/from-2015-2022-shootings-with-four-or-more-people-killed-where-assault-weapons-were-used-resulted-in-more-than-twice-as-many-people-killed/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 Just now, steve from amherst said: Probably a handgun as these shooting occur daily. They obviously dont get the exposure as a school shooting as no one is surprised by gang bangers shooting shit up. S there is no shock factor so the topic of the thread (it's right in the title) is about mass shootings... no whataboutisms some can't seem to stay focused Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Crnr2Crnr said: so the topic of the thread (it's right in the title) is about mass shootings... no whataboutisms some can't seem to stay focused Don’t like facts that don’t support your agenda eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat45 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 https://fee.org/articles/are-ar-15-rifles-a-public-safety-threat-heres-what-the-data-say/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 23, 2023 Author Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: Don’t like facts that don’t support your agenda eh? what's my agenda? I'm also gun owner. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30188421/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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