https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/03/business/gm-plant-closings-chip-shortage/index.html

You won’t see normal vehicle production till 2023.

Like this is just a GM thing or? 

I was on a GM lot and a Ford lot looking at cargo vans and the lots were bare. As I drove through the sales people were looking at my truck and drooling…

I think dealers and manufactures have learned an important lesson from this and will adopt hybrid model of what Tesla does.….  Put a few high end models on the lot at a premium price for the got to have it now and those that don’t want all the bells and whistles can order what they want at msrp.

dealers and manufactures are making so much money currently and would be stupid to go back to the pre pandemic model.

Edited September 5, 20213 yr by BOHICA

3 hours ago, BadaBing444 said:

You won’t see normal vehicle production till 2023.

Hopefully.

I'm glad I kept my old 800r when I snochecked the new XCR.

As Cars Go Electric, China Builds a Big Lead in Factories.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/04/business/china-electric-cars.html

About a month and a half ago I went to town looking at new and used suvs and trucks. The Chevrolet, Ford and Chrysler dealers lots were almost empty.  Both new and used. Couldn't believe it, never saw that before 

I think it's great.  It will make the manufacturers bring back parts production in North America.  BTW, lets not forget about that big CASH FOR CLUNKERS deal that Obama had.  How many used cars did that take off the market.  And most people thought that was a bad idea, because we all realized what it was going to cause in the future. 

My next door boat neighbor owns a Chevy dealership, and told me recently they had 12 cars in stock.  Normally would be hundreds.

1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

My next door boat neighbor owns a Chevy dealership, and told me recently they had 12 cars in stock.  Normally would be hundreds.

It weird seeing all the empty lots around here. Say bye bye to big rebates. 

Not directly related, but close.  Ordered another set of tires for the car last night, and they are about $50 more EACH than this time last year.  The ride continues....

It's just more of the same.
They are shutting down for a few weeks until they get some supples/chips/inventory in, this is happening pretty much everywhere.

I tell my the folks on my Polaris RZR group, easy on those parts if driving hard, might be awhile before you get replacements.

2 hours ago, racer254 said:

I think it's great.  It will make the manufacturers bring back parts production in North America.  BTW, lets not forget about that big CASH FOR CLUNKERS deal that Obama had.  How many used cars did that take off the market.  And most people thought that was a bad idea, because we all realized what it was going to cause in the future. 

Yes racer cash for clunkers is the reason for new vehicle inventories being basically non existent…FFS you’re a dolt.🤣

16 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Yes racer cash for clunkers is the reason for new vehicle inventories being basically non existent…FFS you’re a dolt.🤣

i am sure pos from the early 00's and 90's would solve our current issues for sure.  

54 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Yes racer cash for clunkers is the reason for new vehicle inventories being basically non existent…FFS you’re a dolt.🤣

It didn't help. 

The majority of vehicles traded in the Cash for Clunkers program were trucks, at 84% of total vehicles traded.   677,000 vehicles total.  Do the math and tell me what vehicles are currently in demand.

3 minutes ago, racer254 said:

It didn't help. 

The majority of vehicles traded in the Cash for Clunkers program were trucks, at 84% of total vehicles traded.   677,000 vehicles total.  Do the math and tell me what vehicles are currently in demand.

they were vehicles that would have been mostly rotted out and retired at this point. If people still wanted to drive old shit there would not be a shortage of new right now.   

18 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

they were vehicles that would have been mostly rotted out and retired at this point. If people still wanted to drive old shit there would not be a shortage of new right now.   

Pffft…it’s all Obama’s fault.🤣🤣

15 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

they were vehicles that would have been mostly rotted out and retired at this point. If people still wanted to drive old shit there would not be a shortage of new right now.   

Anytime you take 677,000 running vehicles out of the market, it will eventually have an effect.  25% of vehicles on the road today are at least 16 years old.  The average age of an auto is 12.1 years.  Cash for clunkers was in 2009.

35 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Anytime you take 677,000 running vehicles out of the market, it will eventually have an effect.  25% of vehicles on the road today are at least 16 years old.  The average age of an auto is 12.1 years.  Cash for clunkers was in 2009.

in 2009 for vehicles that were already used up at that point.

They are running out of places to park new cars and trucks waiting on chips. Im surprised they didn’t stop sooner. The lots are going to be overflowing with 21’s. Most people don’t need new vehicles anyway. Maybe the public will get smart and not buy a new car every 2 years. 

9 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

in 2009 for vehicles that were already used up at that point.

Yep,they gave 3k for a hunk of shit. Nobody was trading in quality vehicles for that program.

10 hours ago, racer254 said:

Anytime you take 677,000 running vehicles out of the market, it will eventually have an effect.  25% of vehicles on the road today are at least 16 years old.  The average age of an auto is 12.1 years.  Cash for clunkers was in 2009.

They didn’t have to be running,just registered.

On 9/4/2021 at 8:48 PM, ActionfigureJoe said:

Hopefully.

Fuck that I want to see the Manu making dealers buy more than they can sell again . I don't give 2 fucks about color and shit . I want the lots full of non currents with huge discounts . 

 

13 minutes ago, Woodtick said:

They are running out of places to park new cars and trucks waiting on chips. Im surprised they didn’t stop sooner. The lots are going to be overflowing with 21’s. Most people don’t need new vehicles anyway. Maybe the public will get smart and not buy a new car every 2 years. 

I hope so like I said I want those lots stuffed with shit they can't sell. I usualy get a new one every 3 yrs or 4 depending on how you look at it . I do 3 yr depreciation  then move that one down from the nice truck to a work truck and from there they are not worth much in short order lol.