f7ben Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Zambroski said: Because the top subsidize millions of workers you fucking simple turnip. Yah that’s bullshit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yah that’s bullshit My bad then. Who employs these workers then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Zambroski said: My bad then. Who employs these workers then? All you needed for evidence as to who enables who was this Corona bullshit Pre Corona....rich people said poor people didn’t deserve anything more than $9 an hour and a fuck you and if they didn’t like it they could fuck right off. Corona happens and all the poor people stayed home. Rich people got their gravy train cut right the fuck off and all of the sudden they could pay all kinds of incentives and raises and bonuses to get the worthless poor people to work. without the working class the rich aren’t shit. every 100 years we should slit their fucking throats and light all their shit on fire just to remind them who really has the power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamgreen02 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: It is more than 100k A kid/ guy who worked for me for 5 yrs he managed a car wash before starting with me . He moved back to his home town in North Eastern MN cabin countery about 1.5 yrs ago . He made just north of 100k year 1 . Imho did not have all the skills perfected to remodel high end homes on his own but good enough to send out to ww2 ramblers on his own obviously it dose not matter how good you are in cabin countery if you show up you are gold . I have thought about it but it is hard to walk away from what I built . I won't even take new customers unless they are a family member or real close friend of a existing customer. Been that way for over 10 yrs now . Remodels I could see being way higher but I was thinking even smaller stuff. Basic things like plumbing leaks, minor electrical, hanging fans and light fixtures, staining a deck, landscaping, winterizing plumbing, paint, drywall repair, clearing downed trees, pressure washing, replacing torn off shingles, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 33 minutes ago, teamgreen02 said: Remodels I could see being way higher but I was thinking even smaller stuff. Basic things like plumbing leaks, minor electrical, hanging fans and light fixtures, staining a deck, landscaping, winterizing plumbing, paint, drywall repair, clearing downed trees, pressure washing, replacing torn off shingles, etc. From what I have seen just getting a guy to show up then do the job is almost impossible. Thing is cabin countery is not what it once was full of the do it your self guys they have mostly been replaced by the it is our summer home or our other lake house. But what do you expect when a 3 season is 240k 3.5 hrs out of tge metro. Yep just picking money off a tree . Biggest pita in cabin countery is having all the shit you need in the truck so you don't spend a 1.5 hrs running to get parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Yah that’s bullshit What part? Most pay almost no tax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, f7ben said: All you needed for evidence as to who enables who was this Corona bullshit Pre Corona....rich people said poor people didn’t deserve anything more than $9 an hour and a fuck you and if they didn’t like it they could fuck right off. Corona happens and all the poor people stayed home. Rich people got their gravy train cut right the fuck off and all of the sudden they could pay all kinds of incentives and raises and bonuses to get the worthless poor people to work. without the working class the rich aren’t shit. every 100 years we should slit their fucking throats and light all their shit on fire just to remind them who really has the power That’s neat and all….and we’ll written up. But, didn’t answer my question. Or, did it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: That’s neat and all….and we’ll written up. But, didn’t answer my question. Or, did it? I don’t even remember typing all that. I think I got the covid brain fog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I don’t even remember typing all that. I think I got the covid brain fog Get the shot!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: I don’t even remember typing all that. I think I got the covid brain fog So should I ignore the PM you sent me saying I was right and you were wrong and you're sorry??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 minute ago, HSR said: So should I ignore the PM you sent me saying I was right and you were wrong and you're sorry??? That pm would be the first time I was ever wrong!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just now, f7ben said: That pm would be the first time I was ever wrong!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 2 hours ago, f7ben said: All you needed for evidence as to who enables who was this Corona bullshit Pre Corona....rich people said poor people didn’t deserve anything more than $9 an hour and a fuck you and if they didn’t like it they could fuck right off. Corona happens and all the poor people stayed home. Rich people got their gravy train cut right the fuck off and all of the sudden they could pay all kinds of incentives and raises and bonuses to get the worthless poor people to work. without the working class the rich aren’t shit. every 100 years we should slit their fucking throats and light all their shit on fire just to remind them who really has the power Ah another angry little Marxist...I hate to tell you but the rich got richer during covid. Maybe if you focused on creating wealth for yourself, you would be less worried with what someone else has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 hours ago, f7ben said: Yah that’s bullshit It isn't bullshit...who do you think funds all of those ebt cards, wic checks, section 8 housing, subsidized daycare, subsidized health care, Pell grants, covid stimulus checks, Obama phones and the list goes on... it is a true fact that the people that fund they system have no access to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, SkisNH said: It isn't bullshit...who do you think funds all of those ebt cards, wic checks, section 8 housing, subsidized daycare, subsidized health care, Pell grants, covid stimulus checks, Obama phones and the list goes on... it is a true fact that the people that fund they system have no access to it. Wut? Rich people don’t pay for that shit. Good god man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 11 hours ago, teamgreen02 said: If I were in the trades I'd consider moving to cabin country and opening a handyman type business catering to high end customers. Focus on customer service and reliability to build a loyal customer base.$ That's a $100k+ per year job right now in a low COL area. Almost did it before I met my wife. It’s not that illustrious. I know a lot that have moved “up north” with the goal or using their skills/trade to make them all that money. Every, single, one of them, have turned into lazy asses living just like the locals. For me it would be maintaining/fixing toys but people that can afford them either maintain them or buy new when they start having problems. There is more money to be made in storage of said toys, IMO. 7 hours ago, Sled_Hed said: There are people constantly posting on an area Facebook page here (Mille Lacs Lake) looking for that exact type of thing. Yeah you can’t get anything done in northern Michigan. It’s always been that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 9 hours ago, mnstang said: The left doesn't actually want more middle class. They want to promise you the middle class. But they will always have the boogeyman excuse for why you can't get there. This is why they're always stoking the culture war, they don't give a fuck about anybody anything except for getting re elected so they can make more$. They need to keep people poor and dependent on the government. And hating each other. That's why they try to separate us by race, sex, class. Hey, I don't hate you 'cause you're gay!!! Well, yeah I do!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: Hey, I don't hate you 'cause you're gay!!! Quit fucking up threads with this gay shit. You have a thread ,use it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polaris7541 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 ok this makes sense thats y my trail permit is good thru sept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 8 hours ago, f7ben said: Wut? Rich people don’t pay for that shit. Good god man Well who does then...the top 10% pay 85% of all the taxes. Or do you believe that the government pays for all that... Question, where does the govt get its money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 1 hour ago, SkisNH said: Well who does then...the top 10% pay 85% of all the taxes. Or do you believe that the government pays for all that... Question, where does the govt get its money. Most like him believe the top 10% have gigantic loopholes to get out from under their tax burdens and fuck everyone else in this country along the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted August 2, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted August 2, 2021 The richest 1% pay an effective federal income tax rate of 24.7%. That is a little more than the 19.3% rate paid by someone making an average of $75,000. And 1 out of 5 millionaires pays a lower rate than someone making $50,000 to $100,000. https://americansfortaxfairness.org/tax-fairness-briefing-booklet/fact-sheet-taxing-wealthy-americans/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 35 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: The richest 1% pay an effective federal income tax rate of 24.7%. That is a little more than the 19.3% rate paid by someone making an average of $75,000. And 1 out of 5 millionaires pays a lower rate than someone making $50,000 to $100,000. https://americansfortaxfairness.org/tax-fairness-briefing-booklet/fact-sheet-taxing-wealthy-americans/ 24.7% of 2 million is a heck of a lot more than 19.3% of 75k... Will show who pays what percentage of tax burden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 2, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 2, 2021 20 hours ago, Mainecat said: It’s the other way around tiny. No its not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I like the Idea of either the fair tax http://www.fairtax.org or a flat tax...No deduction, no bullshit everyone pays 12.5% of their pay. The rich people will still largely fund the system but at least the recipient class will have some skin in the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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