Snake Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 He is known as the “zip tie guy.” In one of the most iconic photographs of the January 6 Capitol melee, Eric Munchel, wearing tactical gear, is seen holding up a fistful of zip ties in the Senate gallery. Munchel, the media quickly concluded, brought the flex cuffs to arrest lawmakers attempting to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election. The woman photographed with him later was identified as his mother, Lisa Eisenhart. The top federal prosecutor who handled the first two months of the Justice Department’s Capitol breach probe recently bragged that Munchel was one of the first protestors targeted in the agency’s unprecedented 50-state manhunt for alleged “insurrectionists.” Former U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin told “60 Minutes” that he authorized the arrest of more than 100 people prior to January 20 in a display of “shock and awe” to intimidate Americans who planned to protest Joe Biden’s inauguration; he specifically referred to the detention of the “the zip tie guy” as a way to send a message. “We wanted to take out those individuals that essentially were thumbing their noses at the public for what they did.” Munchel and Eisenhart, once they realized they were under investigation, turned themselves in to law enforcement a few days after the Capitol protest. Government prosecutors successfully fought to keep both behind bars pending their trial although they committed no violent crime and had remained in the building for less than 15 minutes; on January 24, the D.C. federal judge presiding over the Capitol investigation ordered both defendants transported from Tennessee to a Washington jail to await their day in court. Prosecutors darkly warned in late January the two Americans could be the first Capitol defendants to be charged with sedition, a crime almost never applied to U.S. citizens. A Major Blow to the Prosecution And that’s when the case against Munchel and Eisenhart began to fall apart. In fact, several cases now face an uphill battle as the Justice Department’s abusive overreach related to January 6 is exposed in federal court. In a major blow to both prosecutors and judges who’ve signed off on dozens of orders to deny bail to Capitol breach defendants—including nonviolent offenders such as Munchel and Eisenhart—the D.C. Court of Appeals on March 26 asked a lower court to “consider anew the government’s motion for detention” for the pair. The three judges carefully deconstructed the charges against mother and son, noting neither has been accused of violence such as assault or destruction of property. One judge argued the detention order should be reversed, not revisited. In his partial dissent, Judge Gregory Katsas took aim at the Justice Department’s exaggerated case. “While there, they attempted neither violence nor vandalism,” Katsas wrote. “They searched for no Members of Congress, and they harassed no police officers. They found plastic handcuffs by chance, but never threatened to use them. Munchel’s threat to ‘break’ anyone who vandalized the Capitol was intended to prevent destruction and was addressed to no one in particular.” Katsas detailed how both defendants fully cooperated with authorities, both were employed at the time of surrender—Eisenhart has been a nurse for 30 years—and neither has a criminal record with the exception of Munchel’s two marijuana possession charges from several years ago. The only felony the government could come up with to charge Munchel and Eisenhart—who are being charged together—is “obstruction of an official proceeding,” which is an enhancement count filed against defendants charged with misdemeanors. After the court’s spanking, the government withdrew its detention order on March 29: Munchel and Eisenhart will now live under the same home detention rules a Tennessee judge ordered more than two months ago and that the government successfully appealed. The appellate court order had a quick impact on other cases. That same day, another federal judge, citing the court’s opinion, challenged the Justice Department’s pre-trial detention motions for two members of the Oath Keepers, a group facing conspiracy charges for its role in the Capitol breach. U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta ordered the release of Donovan Crowl and Connie Meggs. (On March 24, Mehta released Laura Steele, a defendant in the Oath Keepers case, and on March 12, Mehta released an ailing 66-year-old veteran prosecutors accused, without evidence, of helping Oath Keepers plan to storm the building.) The government then withdrew its detention request for another Oath Keeper, Graydon Young, on March 29. No Sedition Charges So Far Despite heavy-handed threats and braggadocio about pending “sedition” cases, nearly three months later, the Justice Department has nothing even close to this boast—and their mouthpieces in the media are getting nervous. “But as the sprawling investigation has unfolded, prosecutors have sometimes struggled to maintain a consistent narrative and had to walk back statements made in court hearings or in papers,” the Associated Press warned this week. “It has created an opening for defense attorneys to try to sow doubt in the case.” Prosecutors had to walk back early claims of assasination plots against elected officials. The Justice Department is having a hard time building its conspiracy case against ten Oath Keepers. More than 300 people have been arrested but no one yet faces a charge of sedition. Politico reporters just dropped the bad news that most protestors won’t face jail time. “Although prosecutors have loaded up their charging documents with language about the existential threat of the insurrection to the republic, the actions of many of the individual rioters often boiled down to trespassing,” Josh Gerstein and Kyle Cheney admitted in an article published Tuesday, an observation American Greatness has been pointing out for weeks. “Justice Department prosecutors sent expectations sky-high in early statements and court filings, describing elaborate plots to murder lawmakers—descriptions prosecutors have tempered as new details emerged.” The government also will have to contend with the long-term legal consequences of continuing to pursue obstruction charges that will criminalize future political dissent. As I explained in this column, the vague charge, initially aimed at white-collar criminals not political protesters, has been applied to more than 130 defendants so far. But any conviction would codify its use against anyone who disrupts a government meeting or ceremony. “While violent assaults in the Capitol are rare, protests and acts of civil disobedience—such as disrupting congressional hearings or even House and Senate floor sessions, are more common,” Politico admitted. “That means prosecutors and judges will have to weigh how much more punishment a Trump supporter who invaded the Capitol during the Electoral College count deserves than, say, an anti-war protester chanting at a CIA confirmation hearing or a gun-control advocate shouting in the middle of the State of the Union address.” No kidding. https://amgreatness.com/2021/03/30/the-insurrection-probe-is-falling-apart/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Almost at the point in knuckldragger minds that.......it never really happened. Jan. 6 was a love fest of ice cream and cake hugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 31, 2021 Author Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Almost at the point in knuckldragger minds that.......it never really happened. Jan. 6 was a love fest of ice cream and cake hugs. An 'unarmed' insurrection. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 40 minutes ago, Snake said: He is known as the “zip tie guy.” In one of the most iconic photographs of the January 6 Capitol melee, Eric Munchel, wearing tactical gear, is seen holding up a fistful of zip ties in the Senate gallery. Munchel, the media quickly concluded, brought the flex cuffs to arrest lawmakers attempting to certify the results of the 2020 presidential election. The woman photographed with him later was identified as his mother, Lisa Eisenhart. The top federal prosecutor who handled the first two months of the Justice Department’s Capitol breach probe recently bragged that Munchel was one of the first protestors targeted in the agency’s unprecedented 50-state manhunt for alleged “insurrectionists.” Former U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin told “60 Minutes” that he authorized the arrest of more than 100 people prior to January 20 in a display of “shock and awe” to intimidate Americans who planned to protest Joe Biden’s inauguration; he specifically referred to the detention of the “the zip tie guy” as a way to send a message. “We wanted to take out those individuals that essentially were thumbing their noses at the public for what they did.” Munchel and Eisenhart, once they realized they were under investigation, turned themselves in to law enforcement a few days after the Capitol protest. Government prosecutors successfully fought to keep both behind bars pending their trial although they committed no violent crime and had remained in the building for less than 15 minutes; on January 24, the D.C. federal judge presiding over the Capitol investigation ordered both defendants transported from Tennessee to a Washington jail to await their day in court. Prosecutors darkly warned in late January the two Americans could be the first Capitol defendants to be charged with sedition, a crime almost never applied to U.S. citizens. A Major Blow to the Prosecution And that’s when the case against Munchel and Eisenhart began to fall apart. In fact, several cases now face an uphill battle as the Justice Department’s abusive overreach related to January 6 is exposed in federal court. In a major blow to both prosecutors and judges who’ve signed off on dozens of orders to deny bail to Capitol breach defendants—including nonviolent offenders such as Munchel and Eisenhart—the D.C. Court of Appeals on March 26 asked a lower court to “consider anew the government’s motion for detention” for the pair. The three judges carefully deconstructed the charges against mother and son, noting neither has been accused of violence such as assault or destruction of property. One judge argued the detention order should be reversed, not revisited. In his partial dissent, Judge Gregory Katsas took aim at the Justice Department’s exaggerated case. “While there, they attempted neither violence nor vandalism,” Katsas wrote. “They searched for no Members of Congress, and they harassed no police officers. They found plastic handcuffs by chance, but never threatened to use them. Munchel’s threat to ‘break’ anyone who vandalized the Capitol was intended to prevent destruction and was addressed to no one in particular.” Katsas detailed how both defendants fully cooperated with authorities, both were employed at the time of surrender—Eisenhart has been a nurse for 30 years—and neither has a criminal record with the exception of Munchel’s two marijuana possession charges from several years ago. The only felony the government could come up with to charge Munchel and Eisenhart—who are being charged together—is “obstruction of an official proceeding,” which is an enhancement count filed against defendants charged with misdemeanors. After the court’s spanking, the government withdrew its detention order on March 29: Munchel and Eisenhart will now live under the same home detention rules a Tennessee judge ordered more than two months ago and that the government successfully appealed. The appellate court order had a quick impact on other cases. That same day, another federal judge, citing the court’s opinion, challenged the Justice Department’s pre-trial detention motions for two members of the Oath Keepers, a group facing conspiracy charges for its role in the Capitol breach. U.S. District Court Judge Amit Mehta ordered the release of Donovan Crowl and Connie Meggs. (On March 24, Mehta released Laura Steele, a defendant in the Oath Keepers case, and on March 12, Mehta released an ailing 66-year-old veteran prosecutors accused, without evidence, of helping Oath Keepers plan to storm the building.) The government then withdrew its detention request for another Oath Keeper, Graydon Young, on March 29. No Sedition Charges So Far Despite heavy-handed threats and braggadocio about pending “sedition” cases, nearly three months later, the Justice Department has nothing even close to this boast—and their mouthpieces in the media are getting nervous. “But as the sprawling investigation has unfolded, prosecutors have sometimes struggled to maintain a consistent narrative and had to walk back statements made in court hearings or in papers,” the Associated Press warned this week. “It has created an opening for defense attorneys to try to sow doubt in the case.” Prosecutors had to walk back early claims of assasination plots against elected officials. The Justice Department is having a hard time building its conspiracy case against ten Oath Keepers. More than 300 people have been arrested but no one yet faces a charge of sedition. Politico reporters just dropped the bad news that most protestors won’t face jail time. “Although prosecutors have loaded up their charging documents with language about the existential threat of the insurrection to the republic, the actions of many of the individual rioters often boiled down to trespassing,” Josh Gerstein and Kyle Cheney admitted in an article published Tuesday, an observation American Greatness has been pointing out for weeks. “Justice Department prosecutors sent expectations sky-high in early statements and court filings, describing elaborate plots to murder lawmakers—descriptions prosecutors have tempered as new details emerged.” The government also will have to contend with the long-term legal consequences of continuing to pursue obstruction charges that will criminalize future political dissent. As I explained in this column, the vague charge, initially aimed at white-collar criminals not political protesters, has been applied to more than 130 defendants so far. But any conviction would codify its use against anyone who disrupts a government meeting or ceremony. “While violent assaults in the Capitol are rare, protests and acts of civil disobedience—such as disrupting congressional hearings or even House and Senate floor sessions, are more common,” Politico admitted. “That means prosecutors and judges will have to weigh how much more punishment a Trump supporter who invaded the Capitol during the Electoral College count deserves than, say, an anti-war protester chanting at a CIA confirmation hearing or a gun-control advocate shouting in the middle of the State of the Union address.” No kidding. https://amgreatness.com/2021/03/30/the-insurrection-probe-is-falling-apart/ There was no insurrection period end of story 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsky Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Circus of epic proportions that was never going to be substantiated to any degree. Only the dipshits that keep sucking bidens and kamalos dicks continue to believe in. All while the organizers of year long peaceful burning, looting and shooting protests are getting ready to peacefully burn and loot some more over chauvins trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted March 31, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 31, 2021 Biden's wall still up at our Capitol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 27 minutes ago, Snake said: An 'unarmed' insurrection. Overthrow by “iPhone” and a sea of selfies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Mainecat said: Almost at the point in knuckldragger minds that.......it never really happened. Jan. 6 was a love fest of ice cream and cake hugs. Almost as bad as the burning, looting, smashing nice folks from BLM??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 6 hours ago, Snake said: An 'unarmed' insurrection. A whole lot of tresspassing fines about to be laid. What a fucking joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted March 31, 2021 Share Posted March 31, 2021 Another thread to say, "Poor MC". Sheesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 And there it is in a nut shell Former U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin told “60 Minutes” that he authorized the arrest of more than 100 people prior to January 20 in a display of “shock and awe” to intimidate Americans who planned to protest Joe Biden’s inauguration; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Mainecat said: Almost at the point in knuckldragger minds that.......it never really happened. Jan. 6 was a love fest of ice cream and cake hugs. We will call it what it was a mostly peaceful protest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 9 hours ago, Skidooski said: Biden's wall still up at our Capitol? How could you know the media won't show it. Prob because they don't work or so we have been told for years . Well except in the case of celebrity homes and political offices then they work great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted April 1, 2021 Share Posted April 1, 2021 3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: A whole lot of tresspassing fines about to be laid. What a fucking joke. Can you really be trespassing on your own property ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Coroners reports out on yhose that died. MC and AFJ should not read them and just go with their dreams and wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 One drug overdose, 2 heart attacks, one homicide, and one cop that they won't release cause of death. "White supremacist insurrection and sedition". Seriously, when the fuck are people going to wake up to the evil that is feeding our country these lies and bullshit, and from where these narratives are coming from? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted April 8, 2021 Author Share Posted April 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: One drug overdose, 2 heart attacks, one homicide, and one cop that they won't release cause of death. "White supremacist insurrection and sedition". Seriously, when the fuck are people going to wake up to the evil that is feeding our country these lies and bullshit, and from where these narratives are coming from? Just shut up and get on the train... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Just now, Snake said: Just shut up and get on the train... Can't wait to see what old Joe has in mind for gun control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Can't wait to see what old Joe has in mind for gun control. So does Joe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 It’s amazing to watch how the crazy right wing narratives flow down here from knuckledraggers news outlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mainecat said: It’s amazing to watch how the crazy right wing narratives flow down here from knuckledraggers news outlets. Oh, you mean it really was a white supremacist insurrection? Even though no weapons were found and there were hundreds if not thousands of colored folks in the crowd? Listen to you. For fuck sakes man, get your shit together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 8, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, DriftBusta said: Can't wait to see what old Joe has in mind for gun control. Banning Pistol braces will curb mass shootings and gun violence even in black and brown communities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted April 8, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: It’s amazing to watch how the crazy right wing narratives flow down here from knuckledraggers news outlets. If you think that was a deadly insurrection then you'll be the one suffering a heart attack when/if a real one happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFM Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 Self proclaimed superior intellect left has troubles with the easiest of words. Healthcare part of infrastructure undocumented immigrants , not illegal aliens burning down cities are mostly peaceful protests real news of bad things against left is Russians misinformation insurrection vs unarmed rowdy group that flooded the capitol walls are racist, unless put up around lefty building, homes, and areas. ID’s racist for voting, okay for liquor, cigarettes, planes, ticket sales, traffic violations, many public buildings, many private buildings, business licenses, etc,etc. Every convenience store and liquor store in the country has a ‘photo id card necessary....” sign at their counter. But voting, omg, voter suppression, racist !” Lolololol nice try. Us dummies on the right see right thru that bullchit. Who are you kidding, other than maybe your high intellectual selves on the left. Lololololol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted April 8, 2021 Share Posted April 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: It’s amazing to watch how the crazy right wing narratives flow down here from knuckledraggers news outlets. Yea the left wing loon version of the story is nothing to wrap yourself in glory over. Hell they still have a standing army in the capitol over what amounts to an unarmed protest nearly 4 months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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