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It's Official: Solar Is the Cheapest Electricity in History


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Just now, XCR1250 said:

Do they use oil to make the panels? How about the storage batteries needed?

Wind and solar powered mine equipment.  :lol:  

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5 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Biden was right about oil.....

 

It's Official: Solar Is the Cheapest Electricity in History

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a34372005/solar-cheapest-energy-ever/

 

Solar, wind, nuclear and fossil fuels all have a place in modern society.  

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1 minute ago, Highmark said:

Solar, wind, nuclear and fossil fuels all have a place in modern society.  

Individual solar roofs make a lot of sense as the tech has gotten better.   Not a fan of solar/wind farms as the amount of elec per acre isn't great.   Nuke is still the most efficient and least ecologically damaging method (assuming it doesn't get washed away in a tsunami)

At some point lots of the blue collar oil and gas jobs will drop away so preparing these people for other jobs sooner rather than later is good,   see those poor people in coal country WV as proof of why you need to adapt.  the big advantage oil and gas workers have is they are used to being on the road therefore moving for work will happen easier for them.  

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1 minute ago, Angry ginger said:

Individual solar roofs make a lot of sense as the tech has gotten better.   Not a fan of solar/wind farms as the amount of elec per acre isn't great.   Nuke is still the most efficient and least ecologically damaging method (assuming it doesn't get washed away in a tsunami)

At some point lots of the blue collar oil and gas jobs will drop away so preparing these people for other jobs sooner rather than later is good,   see those poor people in coal country WV as proof of why you need to adapt.  the big advantage oil and gas workers have is they are used to being on the road therefore moving for work will happen easier for them.  

Agreed but this idea that we are going to end the use of fossil fuels in 12 years is absurd even as a far reaching extremists goal.  

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Agreed but this idea that we are going to end the use of fossil fuels in 12 years is absurd even as a far reaching extremists goal.  

Its going to be a long time before that happens. But in the shorter term we are going to start seeing less use of fossil fuels for individual use. And the more it gets implemented the more advanced the tech will get. 

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Just now, Anler said:

Its going to be a long time before that happens. But in the shorter term we are going to start seeing less use of fossil fuels for individual use. And the more it gets implemented the more advanced the tech will get. 

No doubt.   I look forward to solar roof that is reasonably priced.   If you look at the science we are about as far as we can get extracting energy from sun or wind......its the storage that needs to keep up.   

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12 minutes ago, Skidooski said:

If only our country would invest heavily into Solar :news: 

China still cheaper  

Solyndra comes to mind for some reason..:news:

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2 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

Individual solar roofs make a lot of sense as the tech has gotten better.   Not a fan of solar/wind farms as the amount of elec per acre isn't great.   Nuke is still the most efficient and least ecologically damaging method (assuming it doesn't get washed away in a tsunami)

At some point lots of the blue collar oil and gas jobs will drop away so preparing these people for other jobs sooner rather than later is good,   see those poor people in coal country WV as proof of why you need to adapt.  the big advantage oil and gas workers have is they are used to being on the road therefore moving for work will happen easier for them.  

Those people were poor when coal was being heavily relied upon.  They were never paid well.

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2 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

Individual solar roofs make a lot of sense as the tech has gotten better.   Not a fan of solar/wind farms as the amount of elec per acre isn't great.   Nuke is still the most efficient and least ecologically damaging method (assuming it doesn't get washed away in a tsunami)

At some point lots of the blue collar oil and gas jobs will drop away so preparing these people for other jobs sooner rather than later is good,   see those poor people in coal country WV as proof of why you need to adapt.  the big advantage oil and gas workers have is they are used to being on the road therefore moving for work will happen easier for them.  

Trump just put a billion dollars in grants into a nuclear reactor company called NU Scale. The idea is for smaller modular reactors with passive safety systems built in. 

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3 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

Trump just put a billion dollars in grants into a nuclear reactor company called NU Scale. The idea is for smaller modular reactors with passive safety systems built in. 

One has to be very anti science to think that windmills and solar panels are the answer 

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3 hours ago, Anler said:

The stuff Musk is doing with solar is revolutionary. They are building entire energy independent sub divisions in other countries with his solar tech. 

He’s definitely not a car company. He’s more of a software, solar energy, space program, R&D company . I didn’t realize it but he sold half a billion dollars worth of carbon credits to GM, Ford, and other car makers last year. 
 

Fossil fuels have seen their peak use in the developed world. Attempts to squelch the use of renewables have failed by those such as the Koch bros. Pure economics rather than demand is leading the way. Of course 8 years of the Obama administration helped push it along. 

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9 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

One thing I have learned working in the power generation business is never put all of your eggs in one basket. 

thats the thing.  Put solar and wind where it makes sense but for large scale hard to beat nukes.   Hydro will always have a place as well.   I'd rather have small nuke plants feed current grid than blowing the tops off mountains to mount windmills or tearing up forests to run more hydro quebec lines down here.  

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18 minutes ago, ACE said:

One has to be very anti science to think that windmills and solar panels are the answer 

One has to be a hayseed dumb fuck not to see solar and wind power as part of the equation in future energy production. 

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1 minute ago, Angry ginger said:

thats the thing.  Put solar and wind where it makes sense but for large scale hard to beat nukes.   Hydro will always have a place as well.   I'd rather have small nuke plants feed current grid than blowing the tops off mountains to mount windmills or tearing up forests to run more hydro quebec lines down here.  

The modular nukes could go on plots that are currently occupied by coal plants so that the power lines and switch gear could be reused. No smoke stack no giant colling towers and sealed reactor vessels which means no nuke waste on site.

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17 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

One thing I have learned working in the power generation business is never put all of your eggs in one basket. 

No one is even coming close to suggesting that. Future energy production will be a mix. Some options no one can even envision yet. 

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1 minute ago, spin_dry said:

No one is even coming close to suggesting that. Future energy production will be a mix. Some options no one can even envision yet. 

I don't think you will ever flip a light switch on fusion or even deep bore geothermal..... maybe your grand kids.

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