ckf Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 WASHINGTON — Hillary Clinton is blaming the FBI's decision to revive its examination of her email accounts for her devastating defeat in the presidential election. On a call Saturday with top campaign donors, Clinton said her campaign was winning until FBI director James Comey sent a letter to Congress on Oct. 28 announcing that the FBI had uncovered emails possibly related to its earlier probe into her use of a private server as secretary of state. The new examination was sparked by an unrelated investigation into former New York Rep. Anthony Weiner, the estranged husband of one of her top aides. The surprise announcement by the FBI came after three debates in which Republican Donald Trump was widely panned for his performance. Clinton told the donors that her campaign was leading by large margins in nearly every battleground state and was tied in Arizona, a traditionally Republican stronghold, until Comey released his letter. Trump's campaign and Republican supporters seized on the news, even though it was unclear whether Clinton's correspondence was tied up in the probe. Comey told lawmakers the Sunday before the election that the bureau had found no evidence to warrant criminal charges. His "all clear" message only served to further motivate Trump supporters, Clinton told donors on the call. In the nine days between Comey's initial statement and his "all clear" announcement, nearly 24 million people cast early ballots. That was roughly 18 percent of the expected total votes for president. While Clinton accepted some blame of her loss, said donors who listened to her call, she made little mention of the other factors driving Trump's victory: A desire for change by voters, possible sexism, the difficulty of a political party winning a third White House term, her campaign's all-but-dismissal of white working class voters and flaws within her own message. Donors on the call were not authorized to discuss her comments by name and requested anonymity to describe them to The Associated Press. Democrats have spent much of this week reeling for their loss, with many in the party beginning a process of soul-searching designed to sort out what exactly went wrong. Liberals like Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren say Democrats must embrace a more aggressive economic message — one Clinton largely shied away from during her campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 well ....trump had 30 seconds of fbi soundbites in his favor.....and clinton had 18 months of corrupt sycophant media lapdogs soundbites in her favor. I guess that makes them even 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 yes it was his fault she bleached 33k mails it was his fault bill took cash from around the world when she was Secretary of state it was his fault she has her maid printing classified information for her it was her fault she associated with woman's rights people like carols danger .lmfao u fucking got your ass handed to u hill go away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 The emails were duplicates....ooops sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: The emails were duplicates....ooops sorry. She lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member Kivalo Posted November 13, 2016 Gold Member Share Posted November 13, 2016 Fuck Hilary Clinton, fuck her right into jail! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 No, it is definitely his fault. If he'd have had any real balls and an inkling of integrity, she would have been indicted months ago. This, freeing up the Dems to pick a better candidate, or....a house plant. Let's see...assists by Obama, Billy, Loretta and a host of other corrupted Dems and the MSM. And lest we forget about the lying queen bee herself! Ha! I'll bet the Dems wish they could forget her right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Boo fucking hoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 GMAFB Maybe she should start with blaming the DNC or the Russians. FFS, Everyone else is to blame for the dems loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 CNN and MSNBC are still doing the statistical and reasoning calculations for how this all happened. When they have the final conclusion and proper people and entities to blame, rest assured, they'll let us all know. i swear, I really enjoy CNN and MSNBC right now. Seriously, they are my go to channels for commercial breaks. SPECTACULAR COMEDY PROGRAM WRITING!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 She was declared innocent. Twice. What more does she want? Some people just can't be pleased I tell ya.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Yup, one of many reasons for her loss. Would it have made enough of a difference for her to pull out a win? Very likely IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 8 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: Yup, one of many reasons for her loss. Would it have made enough of a difference for her to pull out a win? Very likely IMO. Well your opinion has been shown time and time again to be one of a blithering imbecile so you'll excuse us if we all continue to give no fucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 11 hours ago, f7ben said: well ....trump had 30 seconds of fbi soundbites in his favor.....and clinton had 18 months of corrupt sycophant media lapdogs soundbites in her favor. I guess that makes them even I don't like the FBI fucking with an election, I hope it's a precedent that is not repeated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 9 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: Yup, one of many reasons for her loss. Would it have made enough of a difference for her to pull out a win? Very likely IMO. In light of her growing popular vote lead it's very evident that it was one of the reasons for her loss. Make no mistake if she had used a .gov e-mail for all her work this whole thing would have been a non issue, but also make no mistake that the FBI threw a bomb 11 days out from an election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Just now, Mileage Psycho said: In light of her growing popular vote lead it's very evident that it was one of the reasons for her loss. Make no mistake if she had used a .gov e-mail for all her work this whole thing would have been a non issue, but also make no mistake that the FBI threw a bomb 11 days out from an election. The FBI had their reasons .....they knew she and her cabal were as dirty as they come and they made a decision to tip off the american voter. Plain and simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, f7ben said: The FBI had their reasons .....they knew she and her cabal were as dirty as they come and they made a decision to tip off the american voter. Plain and simple So you are OK with the FBI steering voters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: So you are OK with the FBI steering voters? absolutely not ...in fact I am just as disgusted with the FBI's actions as I am with the entire media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Guys, I really do not thing that last "re-look/re-do" made much difference in the election at all. This was a landslide for Trump. It does make me wonder that maybe Comey felt it would be best to let this out now as he feels she will be indicted sooner or later based on the continuing information that keeps surfacing. And Obama's "i'm not touching this shit with a 10-foot pole" attitude tells me he may know that too. Who knows....but it's over. And there was more than enough info to kill either candidate out there. Hillary's, as it turned out, just hit the American public much much deeper......as I've always felt it should have. And while I certainly wish the candidate was a better one (Trump), I'm glad the citizens (legal...of course) picked smartly and overwhelmingly correctly. I feel "re-patriotized". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: So you are OK with the FBI steering voters? So you think that with two weeks to go people did t know who they were voting for and the announcement by Comey swayed their vote? The truth is the polls where a complete lie. Also when you look the voting in a state like Wisconsin less people voted. Trump basically got the same number of votes Romney did. Trump actually under performed if you think about it. But Hillary did even worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Guys, I really do not thing that last "re-look/re-do" made much difference in the election at all. This was a landslide for Trump. It does make me wonder that maybe Comey felt it would be best to let this out now as he feels she will be indicted sooner or later based on the continuing information that keeps surfacing. And Obama's "i'm not touching this shit with a 10-foot pole" attitude tells me he may know that too. Who knows....but it's over. And there was more than enough info to kill either candidate out there. Hillary's, as it turned out, just hit the American public much much deeper......as I've always felt it should have. And while I certainly wish the candidate was a better one (Trump), I'm glad the citizens (legal...of course) picked smartly and overwhelmingly correctly. I feel "re-patriotized". The lack of any neutrality by groups that should be nuetral in this election is a scary prospect. That is the real take away Edited November 13, 2016 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: absolutely not ...in fact I am just as disgusted with the FBI's actions as I am with the entire media Not indicting Hillary is the only only reason to be disgusted with the FBI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted November 13, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 13, 2016 12 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: In light of her growing popular vote lead it's very evident that it was one of the reasons for her loss. Make no mistake if she had used a .gov e-mail for all her work this whole thing would have been a non issue, but also make no mistake that the FBI threw a bomb 11 days out from an election. You had mentioned several times a while back that the R's were trying things too early and that the voters would primarily forget about come election time. That I agreed with but it seems the FBI may have picked the perfect timing. I'm glad she lost but I'm also hoping this is not a new thing come future elections. We have enough meddling in our elections already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: The lack of any neutrality by groups that should be nuetral in this election is a scary prospect. That is the real take away They are just proving themselves more and more irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 1 minute ago, jtssrx said: Not indicting Hillary is the only only reason to be disgusted with the FBI. She broke the law and should have been indicted ....that much is clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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