Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted December 23, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 23, 2019 IDGAF about TDS...this fucker has lost his marbles. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Windmills are pretty stupid for energy production 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tickle Shits said: Windmills are pretty stupid for energy production I wouldn't call them necessarily stupid, but they don't yield a good ROI for energy companies. "Wind turbines kill between 214,000 and 368,000 birds annually " Disclaimer: For all the TDS sufferers, I am not defending trump with this post. LOL Edited December 23, 2019 by racer254 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 I hate alot of birds so I say we install more windmills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, racer254 said: I wouldn't call them necessarily stupid, but they don't yield a good ROI for energy companies. "Wind turbines kill between 214,000 and 368,000 birds annually " Disclaimer: For all the TDS sufferers, I am not defending trump with this post. LOL Cats kill over a billion. Neal 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Drive through Palm Springs, west Texas or many other places and you will see hundreds and hundreds of broke down, dilapidated, non functioning wind turbines. They are littering the landscape in all directions. Many of the companies that owned and operated that equipment are long bankrupt. They took all the subsidies and income from the turbines but couldn't maintain or repair them so they just walked away. Now the property owner or us tax payers are responsible for the clean up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Cats kill over a billion. Neal I wonder how many are killed by vehicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Drive through Palm Springs, west Texas or many other places and you will see hundreds and hundreds of broke down, dilapidated, non functioning wind turbines. They are littering the landscape in all directions. Many of the companies that owned and operated that equipment are long bankrupt. They took all the subsidies and income from the turbines but couldn't maintain or repair them so they just walked away. Now the property owner or us tax payers are responsible for the clean up Can you scrap them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, Anler said: Can you scrap them? Many of the components aren't recyclable. Im sure you can scrap parts of them. Because of their huge physical size they are expensive to get down and dismantle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, AKIQPilot said: Many of the components aren't recyclable. Im sure you can scrap parts of them. Because of their huge physical size they are expensive to get down and dismantle. Like what? I dont know what they are made of but I figured the columns are steel or aluminum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Drive through Palm Springs, west Texas or many other places and you will see hundreds and hundreds of broke down, dilapidated, non functioning wind turbines. They are littering the landscape in all directions. Many of the companies that owned and operated that equipment are long bankrupt. They took all the subsidies and income from the turbines but couldn't maintain or repair them so they just walked away. Now the property owner or us tax payers are responsible for the clean up I've been in and through Palm Springs many times and have not seen hardly a one down or dilapidated... In fact the SGP wind farm has been running since the 80s and provides surplus power for Palm Springs and the valley. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Anler said: Like what? I dont know what they are made of but I figured the columns are steel or aluminum. The composite blades are mostly not recyclable. They are very inert however. The rest of the turbine is recyclable though. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Drive through Palm Springs, west Texas or many other places and you will see hundreds and hundreds of broke down, dilapidated, non functioning wind turbines. They are littering the landscape in all directions. Many of the companies that owned and operated that equipment are long bankrupt. They took all the subsidies and income from the turbines but couldn't maintain or repair them so they just walked away. Now the property owner or us tax payers are responsible for the clean up Same in California. The hills are littered with broken down wind Mills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: Same in California. The hills are littered with broken down wind Mills. Palm Springs would be California... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, Carlos Danger said: Same in California. The hills are littered with broken down wind Mills. If they were so productive why wouldn’t they would be fixed? Hmmmm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, Edmo said: If they were so productive why wouldn’t they would be fixed? Hmmmm. They are, @AKIQPilot and @Carlos Danger are full of shit. Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: They are, @AKIQPilot and @Carlos Danger are full of shit. Neal I wonder if there’s anything they can do about the birds. Seems we went to great lengths in the Midwest to eradicate the chemicals that were killing birds in their environment and they rebounded really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 23, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Anler said: Like what? I dont know what they are made of but I figured the columns are steel or aluminum. In the end I think it would cost money to recycle them the dog houses are full of lubricants and nasty shit. Blades are composite. California prolly charges an astronomical dumping fee for commercial waste the blades alone would prolly cost 1000’s upon thousands to dispose of never mind transportation costs. Tower body and maybe some motor windings would be about it. eventually wind farms will turn into superfund sites for future generations to deal with. Edited December 23, 2019 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: In the end I think it would cost money to recycle them the dog houses are full of lubricants and nasty shit. Bladder are composite. California prolly charges an astronomical dumping fee for commercial waste the blades alone would prolly cost 1000’s upon thousands to dispose of never mind transportation costs. Tower body and maybe some motor windings would be about it. eventually wind farms will turn into superfund sites for future generations to deal with. Well how much do you think it costs to decommission a coal or nuke plant? We have decommssion 3 coal burners and 1 nuke here locally. The nuke is going on 6 years now and still has years to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carlos Danger Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: In the end I think it would cost money to recycle them the dog houses are full of lubricants and nasty shit. Bladder are composite. California prolly charges an astronomical dumping fee for commercial waste the blades alone would prolly cost 1000’s upon thousands to dispose of never mind transportation costs. Tower body and maybe some motor windings would be about it. eventually wind farms will turn into superfund sites for future generations to deal with. Yea so the economics of wind Mills is not solely in power generation but is a mix of generation and carbon offsets. Rates and terms have much to do with deal the individual power generator makes with the local ISO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ford_428cj Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Windmills are another dumb liberal waste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Oldest commercial wind farm in Canada headed for scrapyard after 23 years https://calgaryherald.com/business/energy/oldest-commercial-wind-farm-in-canada-headed-for-scrapyard-after-23-years https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/759376113/unfurling-the-waste-problem-caused-by-wind-energy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 23, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) Fix the grid. Its completely inefficient. Start there first. https://3dfs.com/articles/wasted-electricity-vs-lost-electricity-in-the-u-s-electrical-grid/12/2015 The Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory releases the Energy Flow Chart for the U.S. every year. The latest Energy Flow Chart is here. As we have highlighted previously, the U.S. loses more than 67.8% of the electricity that is generated in our Grid. These losses are categorized as “Rejected Energy.” Edited December 23, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, irv said: Oldest commercial wind farm in Canada headed for scrapyard after 23 years https://calgaryherald.com/business/energy/oldest-commercial-wind-farm-in-canada-headed-for-scrapyard-after-23-years https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/759376113/unfurling-the-waste-problem-caused-by-wind-energy Looks like the farm existed beyond the expected lifespan, and will get a large amount of recyclable materials from dismantle. Nice! Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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