Tinker Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 6 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: well if companies were actually forced to fund their pension fully these issues would not matter but they kicked the can down the road. Huh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Hate to say it but pension and health care have been crippling gm for yrs. 15 yrs ago they had 3.7 retired for every 2 workers Those numbers are unsustainable 6 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: well if companies were actually forced to fund their pension fully these issues would not matter but they kicked the can down the road. VEBA or something like it should have been created a long time ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Tinker said: Huh ? It means those pensions are not fully funded. They are being financed by a pyramid scheme where the money current employees are earning for retirement are being paid out to existing retirees. Edited December 19, 2019 by AKIQPilot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: 12 years at the earliest, 16 at most. All depends on what happens. I hired in when I was older (almost 26) and wasn't making good money until I was in my 30s. Wife and I did a lot of talking last month when I was off about her current situation with her family business. A lot will depend on what she does in 2 years when her parents retire. What’s her family business, selling dumb husbands? Cuz you’re the display model. Ahhaaahhaaa!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, irv said: Over 30 million dollars a year for GM. Add in the carbon tax, red tape, and a whole host of others costs, and people wonder why they're leaving? If I didn't know any better, I'd say the liberals are purposely trying to push businesses out of Ontario and the rest of Canada. What government over saw those huge cost increases? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 It's a sad situation to say the least I feel for the people and oshawa it's a very hard blow to that area 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SVT MXZ XRS Posted December 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Careful with the hvac. He may end up on here posting pics of tacos and cooling towers Son just called me. He had the interview with the owner at 4. He got hired. Starts on the 30th. He has the list of classes and everything else he needs. He has to go to the college and get registered for the classes. Happy dad 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Usedtoskidoo said: they should wipe their tears with their liberal voting cards...…………………..or take a shit on Jerry Dias's lawn...………..both actually Both. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtnloverxtreme2 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Usedtoskidoo said: they should wipe their tears with their liberal voting cards...…………………..or take a shit on Jerry Dias's lawn...………..both actually exactly!!! wonder how many right leaning voters bought chev, ford, dodge, toyota vehicles NOT made in a car plant with UNIFOR representation. dias insulted and threw shit at over a third of the population with his rabid hatred of scheer. one thing to be a ndp, lib, tory hack, but to get like was? fuck em! i for one will never buy a vehicle with unifor involved again. and big fucking deal about the job loss in oshawa. no poly in the libs gives a rats ass about oil patch, lumber jobs out here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Son just called me. He had the interview with the owner at 4. He got hired. Starts on the 30th. He has the list of classes and everything else he needs. He has to go to the college and get registered for the classes. Happy dad Very cool Jay. One of the biggest steps toward retirement is making sure the kids, and subsequently the grand kids, are gainfully employed with the right skills to stay employed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Very cool Jay. One of the biggest steps toward retirement is making sure the kids, and subsequently the grand kids, are gainfully employed with the right skills to stay employed. Thanks Tom. I'm beyond excited about this to say the least. I told him this is a golden opportunity for him and he is now in control of his future and he is very lucky. I don't think he realizes yet how huge this is for him. He's starting him out at $14 and is paying for all if his schooling and tools. Edited December 18, 2019 by SVT MXZ XRS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Very cool Jay. One of the biggest steps toward retirement is making sure the kids, and subsequently the grand kids, are gainfully employed with the right skills to stay employed. It's what we do as dad's. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Thanks Tom. I'm beyond excited about this to say the least. I told him this is a golden opportunity for him and he is now in control of his future and he is very lucky. I don't think he realizes yet how huge this is for him. He's starting him out at $14 and is paying for all if his schooling and tools. I think that's great Jay, but you are basically letting this co control your kids future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I think that's great Jay, but you are basically letting this co control your kids future. After he gets his license/certifications , or whatever they call it in HVAC (I don't know if they do a journeyman card or what ) anything is possible. He wouldn't just be at the mercy of the company who is hiring him. What I meant by him being in control of his future is if he decides to go thru with this. He may not like it Edited December 18, 2019 by SVT MXZ XRS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 39 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Son just called me. He had the interview with the owner at 4. He got hired. Starts on the 30th. He has the list of classes and everything else he needs. He has to go to the college and get registered for the classes. Happy dad I have a feeling he’ll do just fine. Good for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Edmo said: I have a feeling he’ll do just fine. Good for him. Thanks Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Angry ginger said: well if companies were actually forced to fund their pension fully these issues would not matter but they kicked the can down the road. Actually they do. Unions ask for more that what is possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 18 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: After he gets his license/certifications , or whatever they call it in HVAC (I don't know if they do a journeyman card or what ) anything is possible. He wouldn't just be at the mercy of the company who is hiring him. What I meant by him being in control of his future is if he decides to go thru with this. He may not like it Union will just hold him back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 21 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Union will just hold him back. Huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted December 18, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Son just called me. He had the interview with the owner at 4. He got hired. Starts on the 30th. He has the list of classes and everything else he needs. He has to go to the college and get registered for the classes. Happy dad cool, very cool. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Momorider said: That's like more than 100 years for GM in Oshawa fucking insane shit GM Oshawa, where Momo ruled the day toe tapping in the men's room. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Huh? Use them, then lose them. Fyi, I don't need a union to hold me back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Actually they do. Unions ask for more that what is possible. Explain this to a guy who is on the management/ownership side of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Use them, then lose them. Fyi, I don't need a union to hold me back. The union doesn’t hold me back. Well over scale that I negotiated with my employer. Vacation days and Holidays I negotiated with my employer. My boss gives me bonuses that he isn’t obligated to do and isn’t even mentioned in the contract.I work for my employer,not the union I’m in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: cool, very cool. 9 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Use them, then lose them. Fyi, I don't need a union to hold me back. It's thru a private company 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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