Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 155.3 @ 7900-7950 RPM. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Those numbers were backed up at BMP as well. New motor is a dud. This will be the final nail in Cat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, f7ben said: Those numbers were backed up at BMP as well. New motor is a dud. This will be the final nail in Cat To be fair the Plasma coated cylinders like on the Poo 800/850 take some time to seat the rings. Also there were a few other things that they wanted to do but couldn't (dry cold air and cold fuel) during the test but their cold room condensers froze up. I could see it being a 160-164 HP sled when broken in of which the 800 etec has ticked on DTR's dyno as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) Prior to the test this sled was ran for 5 hours at lower RPM's with water on the heat exchangers. 92.9 zero ethanol fuel was also used. Correction factor seemed a bit high as well as compared to past tests with similar temps/humidity. 1.076. Edited September 3, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: This sled was ran for 5 hours at lower RPM's with water on the heat exchangers. 92.9 zero ethanol fuel was also used. It was broken in.....but that's no way to seat the rings. You need to heat cycle them under load 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, f7ben said: It was broken in.....but that's no way to seat the rings. You need to heat cycle them under load Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roosting Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Ya running it at idle for 5 hours is not doing any favors to the rings. Id bet that this motor will always read low until it is re-ringed with a fresh hone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Roosting said: Ya running it at idle for 5 hours is not doing any favors to the rings. Id bet that this motor will always read low until it is re-ringed with a fresh hone. Yep. That particular motor will never make much more than 155hp without mods. So when DTR uses chilled intake air for their runs do they still have a correction factor for altitude, temperature and density. The DTR facility is at 900' above sea level, thats not much. If they are cooling intake temps more than 40F it could result in a negative correction factor. Seems like old Jim is gaming the audience. Edited September 3, 2019 by AKIQPilot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 59 minutes ago, Highmark said: To be fair the Plasma coated cylinders like on the Poo 800/850 take some time to seat the rings. Also there were a few other things that they wanted to do but couldn't (dry cold air and cold fuel) during the test but their cold room condensers froze up. I could see it being a 160-164 HP sled when broken in of which the 800 etec has ticked on DTR's dyno as well. The 800 ho Polaris only dynod 147 at light break In then 160 after 77 hard dyno pulls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Yep. That particular motor will never make much more than 155hp without mods. So when DTR uses chilled intake air for their runs do they still have a correction factor for altitude, temperature and density. The DTR facility is at 900' above sea level, thats not much. If they are cooling intake temps more than 40F it could result in a negative correction factor. Seems like old Jim is gaming the audience. Says light throttle. Not sure why you would do that for 5 hours. 74.6 air inlet temp and 28.7 baro pressure. DenAlt Feet 2750. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rapid Anus said: The 800 ho Polaris only dynod 147 at light break In then 160 after 77 hard dyno pulls I was thinking 4-5 hp. I'm not being critical of this motor here. I'm just showing what DTR has tested thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 My 800ho has about 3500 miles and is fully broken in. Prolly about 175hp now! Sweet! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted September 3, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 More Cat threads then Trump threads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, Skidooski said: More Cat threads then Trump threads You know its bad when you sound dumber than Trump! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 sounds like if you want a 800 cat , go with 2019 leftovers, plenty of dealers still got 2019 cats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Highmark said: I was thinking 4-5 hp. I'm not being critical of this motor here. I'm just showing what DTR has tested thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, Rapid Anus said: The 800 ho Polaris only dynod 147 at light break In then 160 after 77 hard dyno pulls Nope.....the 147 motor always dyno'd low....I dont think it ever made more than 155ish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Beavis and Butt-Head said: sounds like if you want a 800 cat , go with 2019 leftovers, plenty of dealers still got 2019 cats. The 2019's were actually probably the best 800 procross yet. Then they went and fucked it up. I don't know why anyone would buy a 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Nope.....the 147 motor always dyno'd low....I dont think it ever made more than 155ish Not according to DTR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Rapid Anus said: Not according to DTR I'm just going by what was said by the guy who owned the low number sled. They went back to dtr many times swapping ecus etc etc. The sled never made the power it was supposed to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: I'm just going by what was said by the guy who owned the low number sled. They went back to dtr many times swapping ecus etc etc. The sled never made the power it was supposed to This the guy DTR said used Walmart oil on break in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: This the guy DTR said used Walmart oil on break in? I believe there was a lot of oil argument surrounding the sled but it had good compression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Rapid Anus said: Motor to motor can be different but I would expect some gains there pending how much the rings seated in the 5 hour break in. Had to help a bit. I could see this motor being in the 160's no different than I seen some 800 Etec's at DTR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Motor to motor can be different but I would expect some gains there pending how much the rings seated in the 5 hour break in. Had to help a bit. I could see this motor being in the 160's no different than I seen some 800 Etec's at DTR. She’s gonna lay a dirty gape on the 850 doo now pretty bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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