Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 I'm hoping for a good wet heavy snow on my first trip to the cabin this year. The 850 will spend the better part of a morning doing some hard pulls in the fresh to break it in correctly. In fact it might not hit the trails much at all until I get that opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Rapid Anus said: She’s gonna lay a dirty gape on the 850 doo now pretty bad Well its got to get by a properly set up 800 Etec first. The two 850's (completely stock) I rode against last year were not in the same league as our 800's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Well its got to get by a properly set up 800 Etec first. The two 850's (completely stock) I rode against last year were not in the same league as our 800's. Not sure about the 800 etec. They were a really good match for a 2010 Barney 800 ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Rapid Anus said: Not sure about the 800 etec. They were a really good match for a 2010 Barney 800 ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: Did it myself. I had the 2010.5 800 etec demo and buddy had an f8 Barney. Neck and neck until about 105 mph then the etec started to inch away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Rapid Anus said: Did it myself. I had the 2010.5 800 etec demo and buddy had an f8 Barney. Neck and neck until about 105 mph then the etec started to inch away 2010.5. Of course no refinements in chassis or clutching occurred since then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Highmark said: 2010.5. Of course no refinements in chassis or clutching occurred since then. They detuned the etec after that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Rapid Anus said: They detuned the etec after that No they didn't or are you just selective at what DTR numbers you believe? "This broken in 2016 Etec 800 was more powerful than the broken in 2015 Etec 800 we used in Phase 2, but nearly identical to the broken in 2015 Etec 800, results posted in a DTR article on 2/17/2015. This 2016 made 164.5 hp with 108.4 lb/ft, and the broken in 2015 we tested last February made 164.2 hp with 108.2 lb/ft. Can’t get much closer than that! Some whine that the DTR SuperFlow dyno is too stingy, and others whine that it’s too optimistic" Edited September 3, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: No they didn't or are you just selective at what DTR numbers you believe? This broken in 2016 Etec 800 was more powerful than the broken in 2015 Etec 800 we used in Phase 2, but nearly identical to the broken in 2015 Etec 800, results posted in a DTR article on 2/17/2015. This 2016 made 164.5 hp with 108.4 lb/ft, and the broken in 2015 we tested last February made 164.2 hp with 108.2 lb/ft. Can’t get much closer than that! Some whine that the DTR SuperFlow dyno is too stingy, and others whine that it’s too optimistic The etec 800 made about 1 hp less on bikemans dyno than the old ctec2 800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Rapid Anus said: The etec 800 made about 1 hp less on bikemans dyno than the old ctec2 800 Just read what you posted. The 10.5 was broken in and the 11-13 were not. So Doo's don't benefit from break in like your precious Cat will? The numbers I posted from the 15 and 16 were broken in. I pulled this directly from DTR. The cat might finally get to where doo was 10 years ago. Edited September 3, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Just read what you posted. The 10.5 was broken in and the 11-13 were not. So Doo's don't benefit from break in like your precious Cat will? The numbers I posted from the 15 and 16 were broken in. The cat might finally get to where doo was 10 years ago. Correct so in reality the doo is 152 out of the crate and 163 fully broke in so cat is 155 out of the crate and 166-168 broke in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Rapid Anus said: Correct so in reality the doo is 152 out of the crate and 163 fully broke in so cat is 155 out of the crate and 166-168 broke in you got owned so fucking hard this is the most embarrassing beatdown I've seen in a while. dumbass faggot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 This is going to kill Cats mountain segment where hp maters. Not sure about their trail sleds? It will just be a over priced 600 I guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rapid Anus said: Correct so in reality the doo is 152 out of the crate and 163 fully broke in so cat is 155 out of the crate and 166-168 broke in Dude they are two different engines with different pre break in modes and will benefit differently from the rings getting seated properly. I'm not saying the Cat won't be 165+ (measured in a similar way at DTR) but that is simply an assumption we will have to let play out. Don't try comparing apples to oranges. I think the Cat motor might have some potential finally getting to where the Doo was 9-10 years ago. Edited September 3, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: you got owned so fucking hard this is the most embarrassing beatdown I've seen in a while. dumbass faggot Does math hurt your feelings I don’t get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Rapid Anus said: Does math hurt your feelings I don’t get it You should be running along,you are going to be late too being stupid someplace else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Dude they are too different engines with different pre break in modes and will benefit differently from the rings getting seated properly. I'm not saying the Cat won't be 165+ (measured in a similar way at DTR) but that is simply an assumption we will have to let play out. Exactly the cat is 168 is HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Rapid Anus said: Does math hurt your feelings I don’t get it You're insufferable when it comes to this. Taking the lowest number out of 4 years of which just so happens to be an 8 yo model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Woodtick said: You should be running along,you are going to be late too being stupid someplace else? Facts don’t care about you’re feelings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: You're insufferable when it comes to this. Taking the lowest number out of 4 years of which just so happens to be an 8 yo model. It is what it is. The etec made less hp on bikeman dyno than the old ctec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Rapid Anus said: Exactly the cat is 168 is HP Just now, Rapid Anus said: It is what it is. The etec made less hp on bikeman dyno than the old ctec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Says light throttle. Not sure why you would do that for 5 hours. 74.6 air inlet temp and 28.7 baro pressure. DenAlt Feet 2750. to try and fool the computer maybe into getting past timing retard mode? I don't know, i'm just asking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: The cat will also likely pick up more power after a proper break in than the etec 800 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 3, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 3, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rapid Anus said: The cat will also likely pick up more power after a proper break in than the etec 800 "And the 2018 Ctec800 we used for the NY Shootout, out of the crate but with broken in ECU went from 148 HP to 152." Edited September 3, 2019 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Just now, Highmark said: And the 2018 Ctec800 we used for the NY Shootout, out of the crate but with broken in ECU went from 148 HP to 152. And the cat will pick up more. Nikasil cylinders make max hp right away but plasma coated cylinders take a long hard break in to make max HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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