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This is fucking sad.   Cops are telling him to put the gun down, he eventually complies and they shoot him dead.  The real issue here is training on how to handle this situation.  You can see that the gun was not in his hand.   The command should have been for him to come out to them or lay down with his hands up.   Not put a gun down that he has to reach inside a pocket for.  No way this woman should remain a cop.  

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article229631674.html

 

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1 minute ago, Tinker said:

I counted 23 times he was told to drop the gun, I don't see that gun hitting the ground until he moved it upwards and was shot. Maybe I'm not watching it right...

That gun was going down to the ground. She gave him no chance.

That cunt needs to be brought up on charges.

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18 minutes ago, Highmark said:

This is fucking sad.   Cops are telling him to put the gun down, he eventually complies and they shoot him dead.  The real issue here is training on how to handle this situation.  You can see that the gun was not in his hand.   The command should have been for him to come out to them or lay down with his hands up.   Not put a gun down that he has to reach inside a pocket for.  No way this woman should remain a cop.  

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article229631674.html

 

People lacking emotional restraint just have no place in this position. 

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6 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

People lacking emotional restraint just have no place in this position. 

Yes.   Also comes down to training.  Should have NEVER asked for him to put a gun down that was concealed then shot him for following a request in a non aggressive manner.

I get it that they have fractions of a second to decide in these situations but in this case that's no excuse.  Screaming put the gun down that's not in his hand is retarded.   The commands should have been show me your hands or commanded him to come towards them and get away from the person in the car.  

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1 minute ago, Highmark said:

Yes.   Also comes down to training.  Should have NEVER asked for him to put a gun down that was concealed then shot him for following a request in a non aggressive manner.

I get it that they have fractions of a second to decide in these situations but in this case that's no excuse.  Screaming put the gun down that's not in his had is retarded.   The commands should have been show me your hands or commanded him to come towards them and get away from the person in the car.  

Agreed. First, de-escalate.  Then, incapacitate (face down on ground, hands behind head). Then carry on with search/weapons removal/detainment.

Or, PEW.....PEW, PEW, PEW!!!!!!!

 

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13 minutes ago, Snake said:

That gun was going down to the ground. She gave him no chance.

That cunt needs to be brought up on charges.

Oh shit. Snacks isnt gonna know how to respond to this post. What a curve ball. 

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Just now, Zambroski said:

Agreed. First, de-escalate.  Then, incapacitate (face down on ground, hands behind head). Then carry on with search/weapons removal/detainment.

Or, PEW.....PEW, PEW, PEW!!!!!!!

 

In that scenario I would have like to seen one officer off to the side without a gun drawn talking to the man not screaming at him.   Also not sure why one officer couldn't have had a taser drawn instead of a gun if they could see no weapon in his hand.  

We always talk about doing as they command and while he didn't do it quickly he was doing it regardless and they killed him for following orders.  

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1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said:

Oh shit. Snacks isnt gonna know how to respond to this post. What a curve ball. 

Why is that...even Moe gets one right every once in awhile. 😂

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1 minute ago, Highmark said:

In that scenario I would have like to seen one officer off to the side without a gun drawn talking to the man not screaming at him.   Also not sure why one officer couldn't have had a taser drawn instead of a gun if they could see no weapon in his hand.  

We always talk about doing as they command and while he didn't do it quickly he was doing it regardless and they killed him for following orders.  

Blatant and inept incompetence and idiocy.  It was murder, plain and simple.  So, give them 3 weeks off without pay.  That’ll learn them!

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12 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Blatant and inept incompetence and idiocy.  It was murder, plain and simple.  So, give them 3 weeks off without pay.  That’ll learn them!

Most cases its with pay.  

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1 hour ago, Highmark said:

This is fucking sad.   Cops are telling him to put the gun down, he eventually complies and they shoot him dead.  The real issue here is training on how to handle this situation.  You can see that the gun was not in his hand.   The command should have been for him to come out to them or lay down with his hands up.   Not put a gun down that he has to reach inside a pocket for.  No way this woman should remain a cop.  

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article229631674.html

 

Holy fuck what a stupid cunt! He did not make an aggressive move at all he was just complying! 

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5 minutes ago, DUMPY said:

Holy fuck what a stupid cunt! He did not make an aggressive move at all he was just complying! 

It's better to shoot them when they least expect it!

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Sounds like you guys are a bunch of experts even though you’ve never been in a split second critical situation like this.

Maybe if police jobs paid better or agencies didn’t have to go through the equal opportunity/minority BS, they could be more selective when they hire. But it seems like nowadays they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel.

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Ever notice how cops are given a lot of leeway on their words and when to shoot but citizens are always expected to remain calm, rational and follow the orders exactly? 

 

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18 minutes ago, Tinker said:

So is that moving the gun up or putting the gun down ?... for the 24th time

 

She never gave him a chance.  If he had grabbed the gun in the manner in which he was gripping it to fire it would be a bit different.   That picture is from her body cam.   Its clear she should have been able to recognize how it was being held or retrieved.   She was screaming drop the gun.   He was trying to in a very non threatening manner and she killed him for following stupid orders.  

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