Mileage Psycho Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Our President is having a tough time putting together a quality legal team, below is an interesting analysis of what might be the issue with getting top notch counsel. Quote Is Trump too much of a perjury risk for potential lawyers? That and other possibilities. A New York Times report about President Trump's failures to fill out his legal team includes this very interesting section about Trump's recently departed personal lawyer, John Dowd: One reason Mr. Dowd quit was that, against his advice, Mr. Trump was insistent that he wanted to answer questions under oath from [special counsel Robert S. Mueller III], believing that it would help clear him. Mr. Dowd had concluded that there was no upside and that the president, who often does not tell the truth, could increase his legal exposure if his answers were not accurate. This is all very neutrally and cautiously put, but the more simply stated upshot is this: Dowd was worried Trump was about to perjure himself. Whether Dowd left specifically because of that or, more generally, because Trump wouldn't listen to him is kind of beside the point. Dowd apparently had no faith in what would happen if and when Trump talks to Mueller. Could that be part of the reason Trump is struggling so much to fill out his legal team? There seems to be something going on, given Trump's fruitless entreaties to lawyers including Emmet T. Flood, Joseph E. diGenova, Victoria Toensing, Ted Olson and, most recently, Dan K. Webb. Below, let's entertain some possibilities: 1. There really are conflicts. This is the reason cited for diGenova and Toensing's aborted hires, along with Olson and Webb deciding not to work for Trump. “They were unable to take on the representation due to business conflicts,” Webb's firm, Winston and Strawn, said in a statement. “However, they consider the opportunity to represent the president to be the highest honor and they sincerely regret that they cannot do so.” And maybe that's true! But it's also somewhat curious. It seems an odd coincidence that Trump's legal team just happens to keep reaching out to lawyers who wind up having conflicts — apparently before doing any basic Googling? DiGenova and Toensing, for example, were widely known to be representing another figure in the Russia investigation, Mark Corallo, a former spokesman for Trump's legal team. And while Corallo has been cited as the reason they couldn't represent Trump, Corallo told the Los Angeles Times that he had waived any conflict claims. “There were no conflicts as I could see them,” he said. Similarly, we don't know exactly which clients constitute Olson's and Webb's supposed conflicts. 2. Working for Trump is thankless. Olson got at this in an interview Monday on MSNBC. “I think everybody would agree: This is turmoil, it's chaos, it's confusion, it's not good for anything,” he said. He was talking about the White House more broadly rather than Trump's legal team, but Trump's legal drama is just an extension of his administrative drama. And the fact that a guy who just turned Trump down was saying this probably shouldn't escape the White House's notice. And what lawyer wants to put up with that? It's one thing to represent the president of the United States; it's another to represent someone who doesn't take advice, tweets on a whim, and has proved he may wind up publicly undermining or even firing you. 3. They see what's potentially over the horizon ... and it's bad. Even if it's not necessarily the risk of perjury, perhaps all these lawyers see Trump's legal situation and want no part of it. They see all the times he has pushed the envelope when it comes to potential obstruction of justice. They've seen Donald Trump Jr. take a meeting with a Russian lawyer promising dirt on Hillary Clinton. And they've seen Paul Manafort, Rick Gates and others being leveraged into possibly cooperating against the president's interest. The lawyer who joins Trump's team will have “the highest honor” of representing the president but will also risk being a part of a team that couldn't save a president. And if they truly believe Trump might perjure himself — as Dowd apparently does — why be the person who joined the case right before the whole thing went up in flames? Dowd isn't even the only member of Trump's legal team to worry about the prospect of perjury. White House lawyer Ty Cobb a couple months ago publicly said he hoped the Mueller interview wouldn't become a “perjury trap.” Clearly, Trump's existing lawyers are worried about it — and so apparently should anybody else who takes him on as a client. 4. Trump is aiming too high. Olson’s potential hire would have been a game-changer, given how prominent he has been in Washington for decades. Webb would also have been a high-profile addition, as would have Flood. All are significantly more widely known than Dowd and Trump’s current solo personal lawyer, Jay Sekulow. It’s pretty clear Trump is searching for someone with instant cachet who could recast the image of his (at times seemingly ragtag) legal team. But getting that cream of the crop isn’t always easy. 5. All of the above — or some combination. None of the above is mutually exclusive. Perhaps there are justifiable conflicts that the lawyers don’t care to push too hard to mitigate because they won’t want to work for Trump. Maybe they think Trump is doomed and don’t want to work for him because he’s an awful client. And maybe these just weren’t realistic prospects in the first place. Whatever the case, it’s been an inauspicious few weeks for the president. You go to war with the team you got, and it’s clear he’s struggling to fortify. Florida Sen. Marco Rubio stuck in middle of furious gun debate https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/is-trump-too-much-of-a-perjury-risk-for-potential-lawyers-that-and-other-possibilities/ar-BBKMBTJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 That’s not what Trump says...... Trump says many lawyers and top law firms want to represent him in Russia case https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/mar/25/donald-trump-says-many-lawyers-top-law-firms-want-to-represent-him-in-russia-case 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Still not the President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Snake said: Still not the President. He doesn't act like one... Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 44 minutes ago, Snake said: Still not the President. Our President can't find a lawyer, this really is an unprecedented problem for a sitting President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted March 28, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 28, 2018 Will they give him one then? Because you cannot proceed with legal action against someone who isn't represented by counsel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 11 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: Our President can't find a lawyer, this really is an unprecedented problem for a sitting President. Whats unprecedented are the corrupt hypocritical dishonest scumbags constantly going after the guy. Release the hate Vinnie, its not healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 A New York Times report about President Trump's failures to fill out his legal team includes this very interesting section about Trump's recently departed personal lawyer, John Dowd: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 28, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Lawyers like being in total control. Obviously not the case with Trump. Edited March 28, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 The lies fall out the guy’s mouth. I don’t blame a quality lawyer for walking away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Is wince a retard? Facts say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 hours ago, DriftBusta said: Whats unprecedented are the corrupt hypocritical dishonest scumbags constantly going after the guy. Release the hate Vinnie, its not healthy. Should be easy money defending him then. Nobody wants the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Highmark said: Lawyers like being in total control. Obviously not the case with Trump. Would you want to represent someone who undermines your case all the time? Thats makes the job kinda hard. Everybody knows when you are under investigation or indictment the best thing to do is shut your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 That's it, you guys go ahead and lick all of the taint of lawyers you want. As bad as Trump might be, ain't no way in hell i'll stoop low enough to jump on a lawyer's side of anything. Some of you ought to know better, being self-employed business owners and all. Trump's got two things going against him right now. He's the HNIC, and on paper he owns a lot of shit. People are gonna come after him for whatever they can get, and to also take as much power away as he has as potus. The lawyers will have a feild day making out bills and getting paid for the next 3 years, irregardless of the truth of any matters involved. Go ahead, brown nose a little bit with lawyers. Have your fun.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said: Should be easy money defending him then. Nobody wants the job. I doubt very much that’s the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 10 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: I doubt very much that’s the case. Oh good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 hours ago, DriftBusta said: Whats unprecedented are the corrupt hypocritical dishonest scumbags constantly going after the guy. Release the hate Vinnie, its not healthy. Listen Trump is a prick who has gone after everyone, and you know what they say about living in a glass house Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 A lifetime of being a douchebag comes back to haunt him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, hayward said: That's it, you guys go ahead and lick all of the taint of lawyers you want. As bad as Trump might be, ain't no way in hell i'll stoop low enough to jump on a lawyer's side of anything. Some of you ought to know better, being self-employed business owners and all. Trump's got two things going against him right now. He's the HNIC, and on paper he owns a lot of shit. People are gonna come after him for whatever they can get, and to also take as much power away as he has as potus. The lawyers will have a feild day making out bills and getting paid for the next 3 years, irregardless of the truth of any matters involved. Go ahead, brown nose a little bit with lawyers. Have your fun.... completely clueless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Bill Clinton committed perjury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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