racer254 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Trump is TOO BIG TO FAIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Contractors fighting for final payment, I am sure this situation is unique to Mr. Trump. GMAFB. Of course it's not. But if you think it's right you need help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 If only Trump could have gotten a government bailout. This wouldn't have happened. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 10, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 10, 2016 I'll need an explanation when Hillary sits down and explains everything from her past from Travel gate, to the China fundraising deal to Bill being involved with a Pedophile and traveling to private sex island, to the Clinton foundation donors getting special treatment from the State Dept just to name a few. Trump is no perfect candidate but to say he is worse than Clinton is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 11 minutes ago, Highmark said: I'll need an explanation when Hillary sits down and explains everything from her past from Travel gate, to the China fundraising deal to Bill being involved with a Pedophile and traveling to private sex island, to the Clinton foundation donors getting special treatment from the State Dept just to name a few. Trump is no perfect candidate but to say he is worse than Clinton is laughable. Republicans may have a crappy candidate with trump, but he is far less corrupt than clinton and has far less political connections all over the world, which will lead to far more corruption by the clintons. This alone should get people more worried about clinton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 hours ago, racer254 said: Democrats did much worse when they let GM go bankrupt. But you're being led around by the nose again. Its what Trump had done to scores of contractors OK with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 This place is full of morons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Its what Trump had done to scores of contractors OK with you? No, it is not ok with me, but to sit there and continuously condemn trump, all the while propping up other entities that are doing the same is just being a full blown hypocrite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mainecat said: This place is full of morons I think we all agree both Hillary and trump are garbage. We all agree one will be president. Now it is time to decide which one will be worse. I am pretty sure Clinton is corrupt, a liar, and craves power above all else. We do not know trump as a politician. Vote for Clinton and know you will get a useless bitch, vote for trump and maybe you get a shake up in the establishment, and a change for the better. In the end, trump is the better choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted August 10, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, Mainecat said: This place is full of morons And you are the true bastion of intellect? You and Slope claiming the same prize all the time is priceless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Good title. Good insults by MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikeadoo Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 47 minutes ago, Mainecat said: This place is full of morons If it bothers you so much....you can always go to a different site Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 48 minutes ago, Boered said: I think we all agree both Hillary and trump are garbage. We all agree one will be president. Now it is time to decide which one will be worse. I am pretty sure Clinton is corrupt, a liar, and craves power above all else. We do not know trump as a politician. Vote for Clinton and know you will get a useless bitch, vote for trump and maybe you get a shake up in the establishment, and a change for the better. In the end, trump is the better choice. Nailed it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 hour ago, Ebsell said: Of course it's not. But if you think it's right you need help It happens a lot esp, when a project goes over budget. What do you think happens when an originally scoped 100 million project goes over by say 10%. There is a mad scramble to see who is going to pay for it. The end user won't pay unless they were acknowledged and agreed upon extras. The general contractor will start looking at any deficiencies to claw back obligations. The worse I have experienced has been with municipal governments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebsell Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 10 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: It happens a lot esp, when a project goes over budget. What do you think happens when an originally scoped 100 million project goes over by say 10%. There is a mad scramble to see who is going to pay for it. The end user won't pay unless they were acknowledged and agreed upon extras. The general contractor will start looking at any deficiencies to claw back obligations. The worse I have experienced has been with municipal governments. Buddy of mine does cement work and foundations. He got into it because he says he's one of the first ones in therefore one of the first ones paid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chapman Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Trump is Hillary's setup man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 52 minutes ago, Mr. Chapman said: Trump is Hillary's setup man. SSFB or CKF I thought you guys were weeding out these dupe accounts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 12 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: It happens a lot esp, when a project goes over budget. What do you think happens when an originally scoped 100 million project goes over by say 10%. There is a mad scramble to see who is going to pay for it. The end user won't pay unless they were acknowledged and agreed upon extras. The general contractor will start looking at any deficiencies to claw back obligations. The worse I have experienced has been with municipal governments. It's been an sop with Trump on many projects. Being a contractor myself I can tell you that is something I really can't stand in a person. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Ebsell said: Buddy of mine does cement work and foundations. He got into it because he says he's one of the first ones in therefore one of the first ones paid We do automation (process controls), so we are generally the last on a site, but are normally paid 90% before we even show up. We tend to hold a lot of leverage though, cause without us, they ain't producing shit. Still, if we feel there is a chance, say the general contractor could go into bankruptcy, we will insure the final payment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, Anler said: It's been an sop with Trump on many projects. Being a contractor myself I can tell you that is something I really can't stand in a person. I am not making excuses for him, just stating experiences. I am sure he is built up through subsidiaries to protect himself overall. If you need to deal scum, there are still ways to protect yourself. Edited August 11, 2016 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Momorider said: SSFB or CKF I thought you guys were weeding out these dupe accounts It's not a dupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 9 hours ago, Momorider said: SSFB or CKF I thought you guys were weeding out these dupe accounts Its mtm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: I am not making excuses for him, just stating experiences. I am sure he is built up through subsidiaries to protect himself overall. If you need to deal scum, there are still ways to protect yourself. Trump used a similar tactic on many contractors in Chicago when they built the Trump tower. That was a HUGE job. And he basically fucked alot of people. And they remember... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 11, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 11, 2016 (edited) On 8/10/2016 at 9:55 AM, Boered said: I think we all agree both Hillary and trump are garbage. We all agree one will be president. Now it is time to decide which one will be worse. I am pretty sure Clinton is corrupt, a liar, and craves power above all else. We do not know trump as a politician. Vote for Clinton and know you will get a useless bitch, vote for trump and maybe you get a shake up in the establishment, and a change for the better. In the end, trump is the better choice. Good post. Until I see enough support for someone better I'm voting to keep her out. Sucks to have to have it that way but it is what it is. If she wasn't so bad I'd vote Johnson but I think she is so rotten I simply can't do it. Edited August 11, 2016 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, Anler said: Trump used a similar tactic on many contractors in Chicago when they built the Trump tower. That was a HUGE job. And he basically fucked alot of people. And they remember... Problem is there will always be those who forget or don't stand their ground cause they are too desperate for any work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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