Anler Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Why is the idea that the guy who brought the pie to the party taking a bigger piece a terrible thing? The problem is they were already getting advantages that most of us were not. Corporations off shore about $90 billion in taxes every year. Not they dont have to. In the mean time we are getting further in debt, and the deficit is going up like 80% in 2018? The issue is there arent any responsible legislators in Washington doing anything about that and they are giving away pies they dont have. And they have us arguing about who is doing what and who is worse than who... Its destined for failure either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I agree. Go after stores who sell outside the allowable list. Make the list smarter by linking the card to items. You can’t by some marb reds no matter what the store owner will allow. to do that right wouldn't be cheap either. not all stores have barcode systems. they'd also have to be linked to databses, monitored, updated etc. by an agency. then at the end of the day though, someone trades their granola for a box of marb reds out in the parking lot. you are not going to stop the abuse, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 14, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2018 Of course it's destined to fail. But complaining someone else is getting a higher dollar amount tax cut when they are still paying more in taxes in both $ and percentage is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: The problem is they were already getting advantages that most of us were not. Corporations off shore about $90 billion in taxes every year. Not they dont have to. In the mean time we are getting further in debt, and the deficit is going up like 80% in 2018? The issue is there arent any responsible legislators in Washington doing anything about that and they are giving away pies they dont have. And they have us arguing about who is doing what and who is worse than who... Its destined for failure either way. they'll still do it, as long as there's somewhere cheaper and there always will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 14, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: to do that right wouldn't be cheap either. not all stores have barcode systems. they'd also have to be linked to databses, monitored, updated etc. by an agency. then at the end of the day though, someone trades their granola for a box of marb reds out in the parking lot. you are not going to stop the abuse, ever. Or just sells their foodstamps for 50 cents on the dollar for cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Just now, Snoslinger said: they'll still do it, as long as there's somewhere cheaper and there always will be. Of course, thats the game. Always find more ways to save money. Too bad our govt doesnt do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, steve from amherst said: Or just sells their foodstamps for 50 cents on the dollar for cash. yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 14, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said: Of course, thats the game. Always find more ways to save money. Too bad our govt doesnt do that. They don't do it because they don't know how. Its not something they ever did. They are almost all lawyers. What's the most important thing in a law office? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 25 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: to do that right wouldn't be cheap either. not all stores have barcode systems. they'd also have to be linked to databses, monitored, updated etc. by an agency. then at the end of the day though, someone trades their granola for a box of marb reds out in the parking lot. you are not going to stop the abuse, ever. right so lets give them stuff with no real street value like canned meat veggies and and some beans and rice- you know stuff they can feed their families not their drug habits with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 50 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: right of course it is. everyone should have the same there should be no winners and losers- haves and have nots. SMH We should expect more from people and when we don't get it from them we should try to abort as many of their spawn as possible to remove bad genes from the pool and stop the cycle. I didn't say any of that. What I am saying is Capitalism is so shitty that people would rather languish on welfare than work for a capitalist. 38 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: capitalism in general is a good thing. it's the excessive greedy capitalism I despise. 'excessive' and 'greedy' are redundant descriptors of 'capitalism'. This is the only kind of capitalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted February 14, 2018 Author Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: right so lets give them stuff with no real street value like canned meat veggies and and some beans and rice- you know stuff they can feed their families not their drug habits with. right, so poor guy A buys the food box from poor guy B for half of what it is worth. poor guy B now uses the money to buy drugs. you're not going to stop the drug addict dude. if it were that easy, he'd have stopped long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, racer254 said: And yet you have a problem with the tax cuts that gave people 5% in their paycheck. SMH. That was a loan at an obscene rate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Why not have doctors and nurses visit the homes of people that get free health care? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted February 14, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2018 17 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Why not have doctors and nurses visit the homes of people that get free health care? Why not treat em at a VA hospital? No bill , no way to commit fraud. And no I'm not blaming the patient for the fraud. I'm blaming the provider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Snoslinger said: capitalism in general is a good thing. it's the excessive greedy capitalism I despise. You just made me throw up in my mouth a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 hours ago, steve from amherst said: They don't do it because they don't know how. Its not something they ever did. They are almost all lawyers. What's the most important thing in a law office? The truth! 😉 💰 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 On 2/13/2018 at 9:05 AM, Highmark said: "Caviar for the rich, beans for the poor." Given that EBT card funds are often abused I think this is a great idea. You'd have to have a retarded vagina to feel otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Wildboer said: You just made me throw up in my mouth a bit. Capitalism is your friend. Embrace her my son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Hey slinger where the fuck does it end? your side wants to coddle the "dreamers" and also wants to us to kiss the ass of the undocumated, lets take care of our own and fuck anybody else, after we take care of our own THEN worry about others, as a tax payer I am more worried about our own homeless and our homeless vets than some worthless POS that crosses OUR borders illegally or some POS that wants to make a career out of collecting welfare, so where does it end what's the next group you liberal dumb asses think I should have to support, lets here it. I am concerned about the homeless vet under the bridge and not some 3rd generation welfare bum eating prime rib on my coin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted February 14, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 14, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Capitalism is your friend. Embrace her my son. NEVER! ANARCHY FOR ALL!!! Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Snoslinger said: I love how you ignore the question. obviously there is some abuse in the system, as illustrated in the example I gave you. if you like, increase the number of cases if you like. Your question is irrelevant as the current system like many other government programs is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Your question is irrelevant as the current system like many other government programs is broken. The government programs are merely a response to the conditions created by capitalism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ez ryder Posted February 15, 2018 Share Posted February 15, 2018 zoom in on this map. it is where MN welfare money is spent . the DFL went to a judge the first day of the state faire to force the GOP booth to take it down in 09. one can only assume with the explosion in welfare paid out in MN since 08 any new map would be instantly banned from public viewing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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