Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 29, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted November 29, 2017 And make everybody get a permit from their own state to carry else where and go through extensive vetting to carry a firearm https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-29/get-ready-for-concealed-guns-in-all-50-states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Heard this was coming when we attended the last training seminar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Still would not be enough to placate liberal control freaks like Revcanuk Edited November 30, 2017 by Sleepr2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 "Republicans rejected Democratic amendments that would ban violent offenders from qualifying under the law, as well as a change that would have prevented forum shopping, which means a New York resident barred from obtaining a concealed carry permit could instead send away for one from Texas." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Time to do away with the federal government all together. We don't need them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 31 minutes ago, motonoggin said: "Republicans rejected Democratic amendments that would ban violent offenders from qualifying under the law, as well as a change that would have prevented forum shopping, which means a New York resident barred from obtaining a concealed carry permit could instead send away for one from Texas." Bloomberg 😵 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Just have gun owners obtain a fed permit after safety training. Then you can carry in any state legally. The states have over 5000 fuckin laws already. Imagine if your states drivers license was only good in the state it was issued? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 35 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Just have gun owners obtain a fed permit after safety training. Then you can carry in any state legally. The states have over 5000 fuckin laws already. Imagine if your states drivers license was only good in the state it was issued? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenStreak Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 No hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Ours is federal. Works good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 4 hours ago, Mainecat said: Just have gun owners obtain a fed permit after safety training. Then you can carry in any state legally. The states have over 5000 fuckin laws already. Imagine if your states drivers license was only good in the state it was issued? Holy fuck. MC came up with a reasonable idea. WTF is going on today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEFF Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 11 hours ago, Mainecat said: Just have gun owners obtain a fed permit after safety training. Then you can carry in any state legally. The states have over 5000 fuckin laws already. Imagine if your states drivers license was only good in the state it was issued? Every once in awhile you say something that makes sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01mxz800 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 6 hours ago, AKIQPilot said: Holy fuck. MC came up with a reasonable idea. WTF is going on today. even a blind squrrill finds a nut sometimes, history has proven it wont last long he will be off his rocker soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 30, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, BOHICA said: And make everybody get a permit from their own state to carry else where and go through extensive vetting to carry a firearm https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-29/get-ready-for-concealed-guns-in-all-50-states It does nothing of the sort. The NRA would NEVER back this bill if it did anything to open carry. It simply forces reciprocity of CCP from one state to another. That's it. Edited November 30, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 What about states rights? You know those states rights that Republicans are always for? And then look at the stupidity that is bolded below, WTF. Quote Republicans rejected Democratic amendments that would ban violent offenders from qualifying under the law, as well as a change that would have prevented forum shopping, which means a New York resident barred from obtaining a concealed carry permit could instead send away for one from somewhere else. The bill, which has more than 200 co-sponsors, almost all Republicans, now heads for the floor of the 435-member House. A similar bill, with 38 Republican co-sponsors, is pending before the Senate Judiciary Committee. A slew of amendments brought by Democrats were shot down, including a proposal by Nadler to ban violent offenders from possessing a concealed handgun and another from Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas to exclude those convicted of domestic violence and stalking. A residency amendment, brought by Democrat Zoe Lofgren of California, was also rejected. The amendment sought to prevent “permit shopping” by prohibiting those living in states with stringent conceal carry permit regulations from applying for permits in more lax states. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-29/get-ready-for-concealed-guns-in-all-50-states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 hours ago, AKIQPilot said: Holy fuck. MC came up with a reasonable idea. WTF is going on today. I have suggested this many times here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 30, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Mainecat said: Just have gun owners obtain a fed permit after safety training. Then you can carry in any state legally. The states have over 5000 fuckin laws already. Imagine if your states drivers license was only good in the state it was issued? 11 hours ago, Cold War said: Exactly. Yeah I can imagine what that would all entail. No fucking way every time a new party is in power the regulations change. There is a reason the constitution was made difficult to change....so we have long term consistency to some degree in the law. Edited November 30, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 30, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: What about states rights? You know those states rights that Republicans are always for? And then look at the stupidity that is bolded below, WTF. Those in bold are already law. Jesus dude you ever filled out a 4473. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, Highmark said: Those in bold are already law. Jesus dude you ever filled out a 4473. We are talking about a new law, one that will supersede old laws and cross state lines. Iowa......hee haw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 30, 2017 Author Gold Member Share Posted November 30, 2017 Are violent offenders allowed to own a gun currently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 30, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: We are talking about a new law, one that will supersede old laws and cross state lines. Iowa......hee haw Which new law were YOU specifically talking about? The proposed legislation or MC's idea? The proposed legislation does not change that much other than force existing permits must be allowed by all states while traveling only if the other state allows CC. It doesn't mean it carriers over if you move. All other background checks remain in place which are federal anyway. The House Judiciary Committee late Wednesday voted 19-11 for the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017, which would amend the federal criminal code to allow the concealed transport of handguns across state lines, so long as both states allow it. States will not be able to impose their individual requirements for a concealed carry license on armed travelers from other states Edited November 30, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 56 minutes ago, Highmark said: Yeah I can imagine what that would all entail. No fucking way every time a new party is in power the regulations change. There is a reason the constitution was made difficult to change....so we have long term consistency to some degree in the law. What’s to challenge. Safety training and a background check. Permits issued for 5 years with a refresher safety class required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted November 30, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Mainecat said: What’s to challenge. Safety training and a background check. Permits issued for 5 years with a refresher safety class required. You think the dem's would go for that? Pull this leg and it will play jingle-bells. R's MIGHT agree to that but what happens when the dem's make changes? It would be in the courts all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mainecat said: What’s to challenge. Safety training and a background check. Permits issued for 5 years with a refresher safety class required. yup a reasonable requirement and one that eliminates the bullshit of multiple state laws. Coworker has to decide which way he's coming to here in the morning, if he goes 495 he has to lock his gun in the safe in his wheel well, if he comes just from nh it is in his bag as he only has a NH carry permit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: yup a reasonable requirement and one that eliminates the bullshit of multiple state laws. Coworker has to decide which way he's coming to here in the morning, if he goes 495 he has to lock his gun in the safe in his wheel well, if he comes just from nh it is in his bag as he only has a NH carry permit. Yup it’s crazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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