Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted November 27, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 27, 2017 Hey Moto have you noticed a decline in your local Glens/Family Fare since they sold? I have been shopping there almost exclusively for the last year and while I don’t paying more compared to Walmart/Meijers the least they could do is staff the place at an acceptable level and keep the shelves stocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: We have fascism now, tf you talking about? The fact that you group it together with socialism and communism demonstrates a fundamental misunderstanding of what each ideology represents. Hitler was a fascist... how well did that go. We still have communism in the world... not working so well there. China and Cuba are evolving to a more capitalist environment. The biggest demand for high end luxury cars is in China. So that communist thing isn't doing so well either. Fascism didn't work out too well for these short lived attempts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 37 minutes ago, motonoggin said: If capitalism solved problems and allocated resources efficiently, why are there millions living in poverty in the richest country in the world? Obviously there is a need there, why hasn't capitalism filled it? Short answer: Because there is no perfect system, but free market capitalism is the best that we've got. I know you don't accept this, and thats fine. Just don't think you're convincing anyone here, other than maybe Dullnormal Ben, that your theories have merit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Hey Moto have you noticed a decline in your local Glens/Family Fare since they sold? I have been shopping there almost exclusively for the last year and while I don’t paying more compared to Walmart/Meijers the least they could do is staff the place at an acceptable level and keep the shelves stocked. Yup. Used to be the best market in town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 minute ago, 02sled said: Hitler was a fascist... how well did that go. We still have communism in the world... not working so well there. China and Cuba are evolving to a more capitalist environment. The biggest demand for high end luxury cars is in China. So that communist thing isn't doing so well either. Fascism didn't work out too well for these short lived attempts Fascism is the merger of corporate and state power. China is a good example of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 26 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Yup my sister just got in at USPS about 7 months ago. Last Sunday was a package only day. Neal you mean the USPS that continues to hemorrhage money at the taxpayer expense to provide that low cost shipping to amazon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, 02sled said: Hitler was a fascist... how well did that go. We still have communism in the world... not working so well there. China and Cuba are evolving to a more capitalist environment. The biggest demand for high end luxury cars is in China. So that communist thing isn't doing so well either. Fascism didn't work out too well for these short lived attempts Our govt is on a pace to crumble under its massive debt. There is a lot of doom and gloom to be worried about that doesnt get reported. Everyone hails the stock market but the P/E's are the highest theyve been since the crash of 1929 and the tech bubble burst. The fed has needed to raise interest rates for some time now and hasnt, why do you suppose that is? Our govt is already more socialist than most would like to admit and probably more fascist too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 2 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: you mean the USPS that continues to hemorrhage money at the taxpayer expense to provide that low cost shipping to amazon. Look for Amazon to implement their own shipping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Our govt is on a pace to crumble under its massive debt. There is a lot of doom and gloom to be worried about that doesnt get reported. Everyone hails the stock market but the P/E's are the highest theyve been since the crash of 1929 and the tech bubble burst. The fed has needed to raise interest rates for some time now and hasnt, why do you suppose that is? Our govt is already more socialist than most would like to admit and probably more fascist too. 'socialism' for the ruling class IS fascism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: 'socialism' for the ruling class IS fascism. I agree but Murica you know... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 17 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Our govt is on a pace to crumble under its massive debt. There is a lot of doom and gloom to be worried about that doesnt get reported. Everyone hails the stock market but the P/E's are the highest theyve been since the crash of 1929 and the tech bubble burst. The fed has needed to raise interest rates for some time now and hasnt, why do you suppose that is? Our govt is already more socialist than most would like to admit and probably more fascist too. No pure ideological system has ever worked and never will. There will always be some aspects of other systems present but the dominant successful system in capitalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 18 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Look for Amazon to implement their own shipping... Walmart has started a few pilot delivery programs. They apparently have a store within about 20 miles of most people in the US. They encourage people to shop online with pickup and delivery options. They have approached employees in some test stores about delivering merchandise on their way home from work. They have the customer address, the employee address is already in their system. The computer matches the employee routes home to the proximity of the customer address so it is either directly on their way or a slight detour. They offer the employee compensation to drop the merchandise off on their way home. Essentially they don't have any set up costs and don't need additional employees. They just pay them for the delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: I lol’ed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 9 minutes ago, 02sled said: Walmart has started a few pilot delivery programs. They apparently have a store within about 20 miles of most people in the US. They encourage people to shop online with pickup and delivery options. They have approached employees in some test stores about delivering merchandise on their way home from work. They have the customer address, the employee address is already in their system. The computer matches the employee routes home to the proximity of the customer address so it is either directly on their way or a slight detour. They offer the employee compensation to drop the merchandise off on their way home. Essentially they don't have any set up costs and don't need additional employees. They just pay them for the delivery. Amazon is building some huge distribution centers around here. Bezos is smart, They could implement it with the newest technology and effficiency and fuck those greedy gubment and teamster unions. However it would put all of those mfers out of work and probably bankrupt their union pensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 8 minutes ago, 02sled said: Walmart has started a few pilot delivery programs. They apparently have a store within about 20 miles of most people in the US. They encourage people to shop online with pickup and delivery options. They have approached employees in some test stores about delivering merchandise on their way home from work. They have the customer address, the employee address is already in their system. The computer matches the employee routes home to the proximity of the customer address so it is either directly on their way or a slight detour. They offer the employee compensation to drop the merchandise off on their way home. Essentially they don't have any set up costs and don't need additional employees. They just pay them for the delivery. Walmart was trying to push RFID way past its limits. They wanted a tag on every product and then use the reader to read an entire shopping cart full of products and total up the sale. I could just imagine what strength the reader would need and would not want to be near it when it was active. No go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 1 hour ago, 02sled said: And communism / socialism / fascism have survived and done so well in history. Fascism has done pretty good historically. The Roman and English empires had some pretty good runs. One could say England still has some strong tentacles across the GLOBE... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted November 27, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, motonoggin said: Most of amazon’s 40,000 plus jobs in Seattle are 6 figuretech jobs. Their next new headquarters will bring a huge amounts of upper middle class jobs spawning a massive regional economic boom like it has in Seattle where ever amazon decides to locate. Edited November 27, 2017 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Once the world goes to it's 1/2 billion population this will all be irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 40 minutes ago, 02sled said: No pure ideological system has ever worked and never will. There will always be some aspects of other systems present but the dominant successful system in capitalism Example? If you say Murica I am going to point right to the $20 trillion debt and hundreds of trillions in unfunded liabilities so what else do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Walmart was trying to push RFID way past its limits. They wanted a tag on every product and then use the reader to read an entire shopping cart full of products and total up the sale. I could just imagine what strength the reader would need and would not want to be near it when it was active. No go. It will get there. The chips are small enough to be embedded in a button on a shirt. One of the big benefits that they were aiming for long ago was being able to do inventory in a store. Rather than having large numbers of people going around the store counting the items on the shelf and in the stock room they would walk up to a rack or shelf and wave a wand. It would identify, count and record every item in seconds. RFID can work wonders. I implemented RFID tags in our data centre. Each server and each cabinet had a tag. There was a portal at each of the entry points into the data centre. When a server was installed in a cabinet the server and cabinet were scanned, pairing the two and recoding it in the database. The exact position in the cabinet was manually entered on the hand held. Every time a server or other device entered or left the data centre the portal scanned the tag and recorded the date it entered or left and paired that with the employee card used to open the door so we knew who moved it in or out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Fascism has done pretty good historically. The Roman and English empires had some pretty good runs. One could say England still has some strong tentacles across the GLOBE... So where is fascism doing well today. The examples I showed earlier only lasted 20 - 25 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Example? If you say Murica I am going to point right to the $20 trillion debt and hundreds of trillions in unfunded liabilities so what else do you have? Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 13 minutes ago, 02sled said: So where is fascism doing well today. The examples I showed earlier only lasted 20 - 25 years. Heres a few but I think England should be on here seeing as the queen still has provinces and holdings around the world and the US has 1,000 military bases around the world should be represented as an occupying force. Also I dont agree that the south American countries are any more fascist than we are. They have make believe elections too... https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
02sled Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 5 minutes ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Heres a few but I think England should be on here seeing as the queen still has provinces and holdings around the world and the US has 1,000 military bases around the world should be represented as an occupying force. Also I dont agree that the south American countries are any more fascist than we are. They have make believe elections too... https://planetrulers.com/current-dictators/ You obviously are uninformed regarding England... Somebody seems to have forgotten to tell the Prime Minister that they aren't the government. The Queen is a figure head. Canada is still part of the British Commonwealth with the Queen as the Head of State but that is a also a figure head position. We have a Governor General representing the Queen in Canada but no actual power or authority. I asked for where Fascism is doing well and you give me a list that covers a lot of impoverished countries where people are far from living the dream. Many are in a total mess with internal wars. The only ones close are those that would be part of the Arab Emirates where oil has made most in the country wealthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2017 Share Posted November 27, 2017 Just now, 02sled said: You obviously are uninformed regarding England... Somebody seems to have forgotten to tell the Prime Minister that they aren't the government. The Queen is a figure head. Canada is still part of the British Commonwealth with the Queen as the Head of State but that is a also a figure head position. We have a Governor General representing the Queen in Canada but no actual power or authority. I asked for where Fascism is doing well and you give me a list that covers a lot of impoverished countries where people are far from living the dream. Many are in a total mess with internal wars. The only ones close are those that would be part of the Arab Emirates where oil has made most in the country wealthy. Its a puppet govt just like ours. Well I asked where capitalism is doing well and you never responded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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