Crnr2Crnr Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 wonder if they'll discuss top end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: wonder if they'll discuss top end? Spoiler alert they didn't discuss because that's not what 600's are for 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Comparing a pre production Catalyst to full production off brands, and almost winning? Classic IN YOUR FACE moment in time. BTW? The 650 is not a 600 class sled. Double fuck you moment! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 4 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Comparing a pre production Catalyst to full production off brands, and almost winning? Classic IN YOUR FACE moment in time. BTW? The 650 is not a 600 class sled. Double fuck you moment! You're forgetting the production Catalyst falls way short of the pre-production sleds. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 And even if the AC was a complete monstrous turd, they'd be nice to it in 3rd place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 in fairness if they're going to compare 600 class racer replicas they should have used an RXC which is a 137... but at least they were all short tracks. Cat closed the gap... but Doo just keeps on winning for their skid and Polaris for their front end in these ST comparisons no matter which mill they have in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleflipper Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Interesting that these fellows didn't rate the Cat as You Know Who does. Guess having more than 6 miles on a unit gives you a better picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palu49 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: in fairness if they're going to compare 600 class racer replicas they should have used an RXC which is a 137... but at least they were all short tracks. Cat closed the gap... but Doo just keeps on winning for their skid and Polaris for their front end in these ST comparisons no matter which mill they have in them. The Polaris front end thing is something that came up a lot with people riding Toms vr1 and catalyst Monday. Nobody in the real world seems to think the Polaris front end is better. The Polaris is a great sled and as stated before I think the Polaris is more refined overall but I don’t think the front end is a place where it truly outshines the cat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Yeah but Polaris is a bigger sponsor so they get the best front end 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 49 minutes ago, Palu49 said: The Polaris front end thing is something that came up a lot with people riding Toms vr1 and catalyst Monday. Nobody in the real world seems to think the Polaris front end is better. The Polaris is a great sled and as stated before I think the Polaris is more refined overall but I don’t think the front end is a place where it truly outshines the cat. how many XC races has Cat won this winter ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palu49 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 45 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: how many XC races has Cat won this winter ? They won Masters 50+ at pine lake proving the catalyst is the greatest snowmachine ever made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 16 minutes ago, Palu49 said: They won Masters 50+ at pine lake proving the catalyst is the greatest snowmachine ever made incorrect... otb ZR 7000 2003 F7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, Palu49 said: The Polaris front end thing is something that came up a lot with people riding Toms vr1 and catalyst Monday. Nobody in the real world seems to think the Polaris front end is better. The Polaris is a great sled and as stated before I think the Polaris is more refined overall but I don’t think the front end is a place where it truly outshines the cat. They did state the Cat was better than the Doo and in certain conditions hinted as good as the Poo, but just not in both loose and packed snow. Exciting to see all the positives on the Cat though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrinkly balls Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Why were these sleds not taken down Kevlar lake and held to the bar till the last one exploded? Then you would have a true winner!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlafon1 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 If cat actually had someone who can clutch a sled they would have had much better reviews. Everything about the RXC is pretty spot on, except one thing? I regress .. O and this is not the first year they missed it on clutching.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrinkly balls Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Hopefully they didn't fire the calibration department and make improvements on the 2025's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlafon1 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 (edited) 36 minutes ago, wrinkly balls said: Hopefully they didn't fire the calibration department and make improvements on the 2025's. Who are the guys testing the pre production sleds and calibrating clutching? Thinking they just throw darts at a wall with different helixes, springs, and weights. Then when someone hits a helix they all yell and cheer! "yea that the helix" all right Joe(the plumber) your turn. Lets get us a spring to go with that helix. Edited February 8 by jonlafon1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I don't think the snowtrax guys had complaints about clutching or top end. It looks like they were running trails. With curves and corners. One thing about the comparison, they did knock the car for having some push on hard pack trails. I guess you have to compare them bone stock to keep things simple but I wouldn't ride one mile with the stock 4" carbides that come on new sleds. Seems a little cheap to knock it on the stock carbides that come on them that are never enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 The other two had their crap 4" carbides on as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleflipper Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, Deephaven said: The other two had their crap 4" carbides on as well... Doesn't suit his agenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlafon1 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 (edited) 9 hours ago, mnstang said: about clutching or top end COMPLETE failure by cat................................. Anyone that drives a 600 catalyst and says the clutching is good, should not be riding sleds.. Complete over rev/shift to 8350 for a new tight motor Edited February 9 by jonlafon1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 9 hours ago, Deephaven said: The other two had their crap 4" carbides on as well... 1 hour ago, Tripleflipper said: Doesn't suit his agenda I was surprised how honest they were about the doo front end, or at least that they said the same thing I've been saying for years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 13 hours ago, Deephaven said: The other two had their crap 4" carbides on as well... I'm sure they did. What I'm saying is it doesn't concern me which sled turns the best with crap 4" carbides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 5 hours ago, jonlafon1 said: COMPLETE failure by cat................................. Anyone that drives a 600 catalyst and says the clutching is good, should not be riding sleds.. Complete over rev/shift to 8350 for a new tight motor Yet people here has still said it runs with an 800 to 70 or 80. Sounds like a horribly clutched 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Just now, mnstang said: Yet people here has still said it runs with an 800 to 70 or 80. Sounds like a horribly clutched 600. They are clutched for the average rider. Not the super aggressive, hold it to the bar racer want to be's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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