Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Anyone who can't change a fuse on their sled shouldn't be calling anyone, I mean anyone stupid! You’re peddling a false narrative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Let's here about religion. Fucking dumb sheep. Speaking of dumb. Let's hear about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 As I said, some here are working very hard to prove to others that God does not exist. If you truly believe that why put so much of your time and energy in this thread? God does not exist therefore I have to tell everyone that God does not exist and they must believe in what I am telling them. It's kind of like an oxymoron beating this door down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Deephaven said: Speaking of dumb. Let's hear about it. He won't respond about religion, it will be about how Biden raised the price of rice in China as part of the plan or some wacked out shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 I’m just happy to see that ACE still exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 10 hours ago, Deephaven said: Speaking of dumb. Let's hear about it. The covid IQ test retards calling out religion not realizing they belong to a cult far worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 12 hours ago, HSR said: Please don't enlighten us. Based on how many anti religion memes you have in your quiver, you must have been penetrated by a priest as a kid. Could explain your latent hostility and excess drug use. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Based on how many anti religion memes you have in your quiver, you must have been penetrated by a priest as a kid. Could explain your latent hostility and excess drug use. Given your logic…..step out of the closet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) Funny nobody can prove he didn't exist or do the things written in the New Testament either. https://hopeondemand.com/article/lee-strobel-4-proofs-of-the-resurrection JESUS WAS DEAD Did Jesus die on the cross? Was he dead? Virtually every scholar on planet Earth concedes that Jesus was dead after crucifixion. We have no record of anyone, anywhere, ever surviving a full Roman crucifixion. Even the Journal of the American Medical Association publish a peer reviewed reviewed scientific medical study of the evidence for the death of Jesus and said, “Clearly the weight of the evidence indicates that Jesus was dead even before the wound was inflicted.” Even the atheist New Testament scholar Gerd Lüdeman says, “Historically it’s indisputable that Jesus was dead.” So, Jesus was dead. EARLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE RESURRECTION The second category of evidence is the early accounts we have for the resurrection. In other words, I used to think is an atheist that the resurrection was a legend and that took a long time to develop in the ancient world. What I learned is that we have preserved for us a creed of the earliest Christian Church. A creed that is an eyewitness-based report of the resurrection of Jesus. Now this creed has been dated back by scholars to within months of the death of Jesus — within months. That is historical gold. So, we’ve got a news flash from ancient history on the resurrection. THE EMPTY TOMB The best evidence for the empty tomb is even the opponents of Jesus implicitly admitted the tomb was empty. When the disciples began proclaiming that Jesus had risen what the opponent said was, “The disciples stole the body.” They’re conceding that the tomb was empty, they’re just trying to explain how it got empty. So, everybody’s conceding that the tomb was empty. How it got empty is the real issue, and that goes to the fourth category of evidence, which is eyewitnesses. THERE WERE EYEWITNESSES For most of what we know about ancient history, it comes from one or maybe two sources of information and yet for the conviction of the disciples that they encountered the resurrected Jesus, we have no fewer than 9 ancient sources inside and outside the New Testament confirming and corroborating the conviction of the disciples that they encountered the risen Christ. Edited May 30, 2023 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) https://christiancourier.com/articles/a-tough-journalist-looks-at-the-case-for-christ Dr. Craig Bloomberg, a professor in Denver, argued persuasively that the Gospel accounts were written within the lifetimes of those who were witnesses to the life of Christ. By way of contrast, the two earliest biographies of Alexander the Great were written more than four hundred years after the Greek ruler’s death—yet they are considered reliable. The Gospels tower above that sort of evidence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus When Strobel interviewed eighty-four year-old scholar, Dr. Bruce Metzger of Princeton Seminary, he was talking to one of the world’s foremost authorities in the matter of textual evidence for the authenticity of the New Testament. Metzger overwhelmed the inquiring lawyer with devastating evidence. He pointed out that there is a mountain of manuscript data for the authenticity of the New Testament documents, while the writings of Tacitus and Josephus, for instance, are anthills by way of comparison. Edited May 30, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 Religion makes zero sense. Purely a security blanket and comforting to the masses who can pretend they will live on and be reunited with loved ones. When you’re dead you’re dead. Life moves on and for many they over value their own self worth. Religion provides ‘assurances’ many people pretend they need. But hey - keep on pretending there’s an after life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 I find children's stories of meeting relatives they have never known or been told about after briefly "dying" very compelling. I know there are some scientific "explanations" for afterlife experiences however there are some especially with children that are not explainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 They are all explainable. Either way, if that phenomena is the basis of faith it would be rather sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 hour ago, SnowRider said: Given your logic…..step out of the closet. Logic is a skill you sorely lack, clearly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Deephaven said: They are all explainable. Either way, if that phenomena is the basis of faith it would be rather sad. Not with children seeing and describing in perfect details relatives they never knew about and its hardly the basis for any faith. Reality is there is much in this world that is unexplainable yet we solidly believe in them. Big Bang.....Gravity to name a few. Some even still believe the COVID virus came solely from the wet market and there is ZERO scientific evidence of that. Edited May 30, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 Not really sure what’s out there but I definitely believe in some sort of higher power. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Highmark said: Not with children seeing and describing in perfect details relatives they never knew about and its hardly the basis for any faith. Amazing what people will believe when they want to. Sad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 30, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Deephaven said: Amazing what people will believe when they want to. Sad really. Lots of unexplainable things in this world like I mentioned above yet people fully believe in them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 10 hours ago, akvanden said: I’m just happy to see that ACE still exists. He has risen!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Not really sure what’s out there but I definitely believe in some sort of higher power. Agree, I like to look at it this way, there's literally a male and a female for every living thing. I like to believe that didn't happen from an explosion (big bang theory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 2 hours ago, DriftBusta said: Based on how many anti religion memes you have in your quiver, you must have been penetrated by a priest as a kid. Could explain your latent hostility and excess drug use. Man are you obsessed with my posts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Amazing what people will believe when they want to. Sad really. The believers that thought Joe Biden would save this country comes to mind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted May 30, 2023 Share Posted May 30, 2023 49 minutes ago, Highmark said: I find children's stories of meeting relatives they have never known or been told about after briefly "dying" very compelling. I know there are some scientific "explanations" for afterlife experiences however there are some especially with children that are not explainable. For sure. Those who think nothing has happened for 2000 years are quite delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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