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Did Jesus of Nazareth actually exist?


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3 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

Anyone who can't change a fuse on their sled shouldn't be calling anyone, I mean anyone stupid! 

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:lol: You’re peddling a false narrative :lmao: 

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As I said, some here are working very hard to prove to others that God does not exist. :whistle: If you truly believe that why put so much of your time and energy in this thread? God does not exist therefore I have to tell everyone that God does not exist and they must believe in what I am telling them. :thumbsup:

 It's kind of like an oxymoron beating this door down.  

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1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

Speaking of dumb. Let's hear about it.

He won't respond about religion, it will be about how Biden raised the price of rice in China as part of the plan or some wacked out shit.

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12 hours ago, HSR said:

Please don't enlighten us.

Based on how many anti religion memes you have in your quiver, you must have been penetrated by a priest as a kid.  Could explain your latent hostility and excess drug use.  :dunno: 

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21 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Based on how many anti religion memes you have in your quiver, you must have been penetrated by a priest as a kid.  Could explain your latent hostility and excess drug use.  :dunno: 

Given your logic…..step out of the closet. :news:

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Funny nobody can prove he didn't exist or do the things written in the New Testament either.

https://hopeondemand.com/article/lee-strobel-4-proofs-of-the-resurrection

JESUS WAS DEAD

Did Jesus die on the cross? Was he dead? Virtually every scholar on planet Earth concedes that Jesus was dead after crucifixion. We have no record of anyone, anywhere, ever surviving a full Roman crucifixion. Even the Journal of the American Medical Association publish a peer reviewed reviewed scientific medical study of the evidence for the death of Jesus and said, “Clearly the weight of the evidence indicates that Jesus was dead even before the wound was inflicted.” Even the atheist New Testament scholar Gerd Lüdeman says, “Historically it’s indisputable that Jesus was dead.” So, Jesus was dead.

EARLY ACCOUNTS FOR THE RESURRECTION

The second category of evidence is the early accounts we have for the resurrection. In other words, I used to think is an atheist that the resurrection was a legend and that took a long time to develop in the ancient world. What I learned is that we have preserved for us a creed of the earliest Christian Church. A creed that is an eyewitness-based report of the resurrection of Jesus. Now this creed has been dated back by scholars to within months of the death of Jesus — within months. That is historical gold. So, we’ve got a news flash from ancient history on the resurrection.

THE EMPTY TOMB

The best evidence for the empty tomb is even the opponents of Jesus implicitly admitted the tomb was empty. When the disciples began proclaiming that Jesus had risen what the opponent said was, “The disciples stole the body.” They’re conceding that the tomb was empty, they’re just trying to explain how it got empty. So, everybody’s conceding that the tomb was empty. How it got empty is the real issue, and that goes to the fourth category of evidence, which is eyewitnesses.

THERE WERE EYEWITNESSES

For most of what we know about ancient history, it comes from one or maybe two sources of information and yet for the conviction of the disciples that they encountered the resurrected Jesus, we have no fewer than 9 ancient sources inside and outside the New Testament confirming and corroborating the conviction of the disciples that they encountered the risen Christ.

 

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:news:

https://christiancourier.com/articles/a-tough-journalist-looks-at-the-case-for-christ

Dr. Craig Bloomberg, a professor in Denver, argued persuasively that the Gospel accounts were written within the lifetimes of those who were witnesses to the life of Christ. By way of contrast, the two earliest biographies of Alexander the Great were written more than four hundred years after the Greek ruler’s death—yet they are considered reliable. The Gospels tower above that sort of evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacitus

When Strobel interviewed eighty-four year-old scholar, Dr. Bruce Metzger of Princeton Seminary, he was talking to one of the world’s foremost authorities in the matter of textual evidence for the authenticity of the New Testament. Metzger overwhelmed the inquiring lawyer with devastating evidence. He pointed out that there is a mountain of manuscript data for the authenticity of the New Testament documents, while the writings of Tacitus and Josephus, for instance, are anthills by way of comparison.

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Religion makes zero sense.  Purely a security blanket and comforting to the masses who can pretend they will live on and be reunited with loved ones.  When you’re dead you’re dead.  Life moves on and for many they over value their own self worth.  Religion provides ‘assurances’ many people pretend they need.  But hey - keep on pretending there’s an after life :lol: 

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I find children's stories of meeting relatives they have never known or been told about after briefly "dying" very compelling.  I know there are some scientific "explanations" for afterlife experiences however there are some especially with children that are not explainable.   

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34 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

They are all explainable.  Either way, if that phenomena is the basis of faith it would be rather sad.

Not with children seeing and describing in perfect details relatives they never knew about and its hardly the basis for any faith. 

Reality is there is much in this world that is unexplainable yet we solidly believe in them.  Big Bang.....Gravity to name a few.  Some even still believe the COVID virus came solely from the wet market and there is ZERO scientific evidence of that.  :lmao:  

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12 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Not with children seeing and describing in perfect details relatives they never knew about and its hardly the basis for any faith. 

Amazing what people will believe when they want to.  Sad really.

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1 minute ago, Deephaven said:

Amazing what people will believe when they want to.  Sad really.

Lots of unexplainable things in this world like I mentioned above yet people fully believe in them.  

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6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Not really sure what’s out there but I definitely believe in some sort of higher power.

Agree, I like to look at it this way, there's literally a male and a female for every living thing. I like to believe that didn't happen from an explosion (big bang theory).

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2 hours ago, DriftBusta said:

Based on how many anti religion memes you have in your quiver, you must have been penetrated by a priest as a kid.  Could explain your latent hostility and excess drug use.  :dunno: 

Man are you obsessed with my posts:lol:

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49 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I find children's stories of meeting relatives they have never known or been told about after briefly "dying" very compelling.  I know there are some scientific "explanations" for afterlife experiences however there are some especially with children that are not explainable.   

For sure.  

Those who think nothing has happened for 2000 years are quite delusional.

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