Indictment?

[Sleepr2]

1 hour ago, SnowRider said:

This indictment is just the beginning.  Will be interested to see what the charges are but it is apparent he payed to hush people up.  He loses without doing so. 
 

GA and Jack Smith will be the better indictments and charges.  
 

It’s comical to watch grown men rally around their dear leader.  The emotional reaction devoid of rationale thought is obvious and telling.  
 

MAGA is a cult more consumed with identity politics, grievances, and power than democracy and the rule of law.  

You’ve been bleating that for 7 years 

 

[Sleepr2]

4 minutes ago, SnowRider said:

Yep 

 

Actually that’s a great explanation of woke , poor lil guy. 

[Jerry 976]

   

[Badger**]

[Jimmy Snacks]

 

[SnowRider]

Best part about this indictment is watching Repugs cry and circle the wagons before anyone knows what the charges are   Personally I’m more interested in Jack Smith and GA.  Those two cases represent the real issue of orange man and MAGA trying to circumvent a free and fair election.  For that - he should and might be charged. 

[SnowRider]

Could be @Skidooski if a couple guys on here bent over   

[Sleepr2]

1 hour ago, SnowRider said:

Could be @Skidooski if a couple guys on here bent over   

Posted by the lil guy that lunges to his knees for any liberal.  

 

 

[SnowRider]

Yep - Repugs are a cancer 

 

 

[SnowRider]

@DriftBusta

 

[airflite1]

I remember there was such a strong case against Hillary but no DA dared to bring charges against her, because of her political position, and Comey reopened the investigation into her emails just before the election because if she did beat Trump she would be an illegitimate President. Was there a deal that if she quietly went away she wouldn’t be prosecuted? 

[Badger**]

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Former presidential candidate John Edwards was accused of funneling nearly $1 million in donor contributions to support his pregnant mistress and criminally charged with a campaign finance violation. Here's how the case played out.

Katherine Tangalakis-Lippert

 

 

 

Former US Sen. John Edwards exits the federal court May 31, 2012 in Greensboro, North Carolina. (Photo by Sara D. Davis/Getty Images)  Sara D. Davis/Getty Images

 

• Former presidential candidate John Edwards was charged with campaign finance violations in 2011.
• The DOJ accused Edwards of funneling nearly $1 million in donations to his pregnant mistress.
• Edwards was acquitted of one campaign finance violation charge and the others were dropped.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Legal experts are debating what the outcome of a trial might be after a Manhattan grand jury indicted former President Donald Trump on Thursday, likely over a hush-money payment made to adult film actress Stormy Daniels.

Those experts don't have to look far to find precedent: The last time a grand jury criminally charged a presidential candidate for payments made to a mistress, John Edwards faced up to 30 years in prison and $1.5 million in fines. That was in 2011.

Edwards was John Kerry's vice presidential running mate in 2004 in the pair's losing race against George W. Bush and Dick Cheney prior to launching his own presidential campaign in 2008.

The felony charges the former North Carolina Senator faced in 2011 — one count of conspiracy to violate federal campaign finance laws and lie to the Federal Election Commission (FEC), four counts of accepting and receiving illegal campaign contributions, and one count of concealing those illegal donations from the FEC — stemmed from his own 2008 campaign. Each carried a maximum five-year term in prison and a $250,000 fine.

"Mr. Edwards is alleged to have accepted more than $900,000 in an effort to conceal from the public facts that he believed would harm his candidacy," Assistant Attorney General Breuer said in a June 2011 Department of Justice statement regarding the indictment.

A yearlong investigation and trial alleged that Edwards conspired with his campaign staff to hide that in 2007 the candidate had fathered a daughter with his mistress, all while his wife battled breast cancer.

Edwards later admitted to the affair, that he was the father of the girl, and was financially supporting the pair. His wife, Elizabeth, filed for separation after Edwards admitted the child was his, but died of her illness before the criminal charges were brought.

In the case against him, DOJ officials argued Edwards orchestrated a series of illegal donations to provide hush-money payments to his mistress, then conspired with his staff to lie about the affair and cover up the illegal donations with check memos like "chairs," "antique table," and "bookcase."

Legal experts regarded the case as shaky because the charges were not based on a specific federal statute, but an advisory FEC opinion that argued gifts made to political candidates should be considered campaign contributions, CNN and the Washington Post reported at the time.

After nine days of deliberations, a jury acquitted Edwards of one charge of accepting an illegal donation, ABC News reported, but was hopelessly deadlocked on the other five counts, resulting in a mistrial. The Department of Justice chose not to re-try Edwards, Politico reported in 2012.

"It's not illegal to be a pig," Brett Kappel, a Washington campaign finance expert, told the Washington Post at the time. "Is what Edwards did slimy? Absolutely. Everyone will agree it was reprehensible. But it's not a crime."

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'Window into history': Tapes detail LBJ's stolen election

JAMIE STENGLE

Updated April 1, 2023, 8:53 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Peter Mangan flips through a large folder of newspaper clippings at the Lyndon B. Johnson's presidential library as he prepares to make a donation to the library, Wednesday, Aug. 31, 2022, in Austin, Texas. The family of the late Associated Press reporter James W. Mangan has donated to the library cassette tapes containing interviews the reporter did that led to a 1977 story in which a Texas voting official detailed how three decades earlier, votes were falsified to give Johnson a slim victory in a U.S. Senate primary. (AP Photo/Eric Gay)

ASSOCIATED PRESS

DALLAS (AP) — The story was a blockbuster: A former Texas voting official was on the record detailing how nearly three decades earlier, votes were falsified to give then-congressman Lyndon B. Johnson a win that propelled the future president into the U.S. Senate.

The audio recordings from Associated Press reporter James W. Mangan's interviews for the 1977 story were posted this week on the LBJ Presidential Library and Museum's archival website, Discover LBJ. After Mangan's death in 2015 at the age of 87, his family found the labeled cassette tapes at his San Antonio home and donated them last summer to the library on the campus of the University at Texas at Austin.

Luis Salas, the former South Texas election judge, told Mangan for the story: “Johnson did not win that election; It was stolen for him. And I know exactly how it was done.”

The story, which made front pages across the country, pulled back the curtain on the razor-thin victory that had drawn suspicions ever since election officials in rural Jim Wells County announced the discovery of uncounted votes in a ballot box known as Box 13 in the days after the 1948 Democratic primary Senate runoff. And now, at a time when election fraud is rare but former President Donald Trump and his allies amplify baseless allegations blaming it for his 2020 loss, the tapes and story show what compelling evidence of actual fraud looks like.

Mangan's son, Peter, said listening the tapes was like getting “a little window into history."

On one cassette, he said, it sounds like his father is in his car, reciting what he'd just been told.

“You can hear cars going by and he’s kind of, you can tell he’s a little excited, because I think he finally got the goods,” Peter Mangan said.

Mark Lawrence, the library's director, said the recordings are “deeply connected to one of the big mysteries and controversies that’s hung around LBJ for decades.” In a 1984 oral history that Salas gave to the library, he said one of the reasons he finally decided to talk was because he had been quite ill.

Mangan said in a 2008 AP story that as he worked to convince Salas to go on the record, he told him: “If you die, history will never know what happened.”

Lawrence said much is now known about Box 13, thanks to both Mangan's 1977 story and research done later by LBJ biographer Robert Caro, who “essentially reaffirmed” Mangan's story and built on it.

 

“The kinds of irregularities we can see were at work in the 1948 Senate race in Texas were, I think it’s fair to say, pretty widespread across American history and all regions of the country to one extent or another but certainly in the South and along the Mexican borderlands, as recently as the 1940s,” Lawrence said.

Salas told Mangan that the powerful South Texas political boss George B. Parr — who wielded control with favors and coercion — ordered that some 200 votes be added to Box 13. Salas said he then watched as the fraudulent votes were added in alphabetical order, with the names coming from people who hadn’t voted in the election.

The new votes gave Johnson the primary victory over then-Gov. Coke Stevenson by an 87-vote margin. Johnson — subsequently bestowed with the nickname “Landslide Lyndon” — went on to easily defeat the Republican in the general election, long before the GOP became the dominant force in Texas politics.

Johnson, elected to the U.S. House in 1937, had run for U.S. Senate in 1941 and lost to then-Gov. Wilbert Lee “Pappy” O'Daniel in an election widely accepted by historians to have been corrupt, Lawrence said.

“The standard story that gets told, and I think there’s an awful lot to it, is that when LBJ’s second chance comes along in 1948, he’s determined not to have the election stolen from him again," Lawrence said.

Lawrence said the 1948 Senate victory “catapults" Johnson to national attention. Johnson became then-President John F. Kennedy's vice president and was sworn in as president Nov. 22, 1963, after Kennedy was assassinated in Dallas. Johnson was elected president in 1964. He decided not to run again in 1968 and died of a heart attack in 1973 at the age of 64.

Lawrence said that while the Box 13 incident shows that “LBJ was willing to do what he had to do to maintain political power," he was also a man who, “when he had the opportunity, he was more inclined to act on principle.” Lawrence noted Johnson's efforts to “ensure that people were able to vote in fair and equitable elections.”

In 1965, Johnson signed the Voting Rights Act, which outlawed practices designed to disenfranchise Black voters by banning literary tests and poll taxes. The act also gave the federal government the authority to take over voter registration in counties with a pattern of persistent racial discrimination, although that is no longer the case after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the requirement in 2013.

James Mangan retired from AP on Jan. 1, 1989, after a 36-year career with the company that took him to cities across the U.S. and to Europe. With each move, Peter Mangan said, his father held on to the Box 13 tapes.

“He always kept these," he said, "so I know they must have been important to him.”

Originally published April 1, 2023, 8:53 AM

[SnowRider]

See what happens but this is the indictment I’d like to see 

 

[SnowRider]

True…we will see 

 

[Sleepr2]

2 hours ago, SnowRider said:

True…we will see 

 

[Crnr2Crnr]

"They asked us to stand down": Ex-Manhattan DA says Trump DOJ intervened in Stormy Daniels probe 

https://www.salon.com/2023/04/03/they-asked-us-to-stand-down-ex-manhattan-da-says-doj-intervened-in-stormy-daniels-probe/

 

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[SnowRider]

Liz FTW  

 

 

[SnowRider]

Any predictions on what the charges will be?  How many?  How many will be felonies? 
 

Today might just be a warm-up before GA and Jack step forward.  .  

[SnowRider]

Good Stuff 

 

Warning - will unhinge MAGAt’s  

 

[racer254]

I think I will put this right here.  Seems to fit.

[SnowRider]

1 minute ago, racer254 said:

I think I will put this right here.  Seems to fit.

How are they going to work that out in Texass? 

 

[racer254]