Despite Musk's claims, there's no proof the FBI told Twitter to suppress Hunter Biden story (CNN)

[Highmark]

7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

Agreed.

I have ZERO issues with our govt spying on foreigners both on and off our soil.   People would be quite blind to think their are not actors here and abroad that wish to do us harm.   Many times this comes from espionage of technical nature like when the Chinese were caught stealing genetic crop traits and trying to smuggle them out of the country.    

Crossfire Hurricane was obvious proof that it can be easily abused by one political party or political ideals against another.

One major improvement could be that every single unmasking of an American must go in front of the FISA court for approval.  During CH unmasking was rampant and suspicious in nature.  

The hammer should have come down on the applicants that lied to the court.        

Edited December 28, 2022 by Highmark

[f7ben]

47 minutes ago, racer254 said:

To be mad at trump regarding the FISA act is exactly the problem and it is why I tried to tell him that his outrage is misdirected.....but I was called names.  LOL.

Did he or did he not pass the fucking bill you stupid cocksucker???

Edited December 28, 2022 by f7ben

[f7ben]

2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I have ZERO issues with our govt spying on foreigners both on and off our soil.   People would be quite blind to think their are not actors here and abroad that wish to do us harm.   Many times this comes from espionage of technical nature like when the Chinese were caught stealing genetic crop traits and trying to smuggle them out of the country.    

Crossfire Hurricane was obvious proof that it can be easily abused by one political party or political ideals against another.    

The whole FISA system has been corrupted to the point where its entire purpose is domestic electronic spying on US citizens. They route all electronic traffic through international data hubs so it falls within FISA. It’s blatant circumvention of the 4th and it’s absolutely no surprise that Trump supported it.

[DriftBusta]

6 minutes ago, f7ben said:

The whole FISA system has been corrupted to the point where its entire purpose is domestic electronic spying on US citizens. They route all electronic traffic through international data hubs so it falls within FISA. It’s blatant circumvention of the 4th and it’s absolutely no surprise that Trump supported it.

You're mischaracterizing what Trump said and did.  I know ya hate the guy and lump him in with the rest of the swamp, but its just not true.

[f7ben]

2 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

You're mischaracterizing what Trump said and did.  I know ya hate the guy and lump him in with the rest of the swamp, but its just not true.

I did not mischaracterize it. He said that FISA was trash and the deep state was evil. He threatened to veto it and then caved and gave it to them after he got his sound bite. I don’t hate trump , is see exactly what he is and was and that’s my enemy. 

[ArcticCrusher]

9 hours ago, Deephaven said:

Keep moving goalposts.  So sad you cant stick to one at least one time.

 

 

Musk is talking to you.

 

 

[Highmark]

17 minutes ago, f7ben said:

The whole FISA system has been corrupted to the point where its entire purpose is domestic electronic spying on US citizens. They route all electronic traffic through international data hubs so it falls within FISA. It’s blatant circumvention of the 4th and it’s absolutely no surprise that Trump supported it.

Not saying its untrue but do you have any links to this?

[f7ben]

9 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Not saying its untrue but do you have any links to this?

Ever heard of Ed Snowden ? He has spoken at length about it. 

[f7ben]

12 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Not saying it’s untrue but do you have any links to this?

“Traffic shaping” 

they’ve been doing this for a long time 

https://tcf.org/content/report/surveillance-without-borders-the-traffic-shaping-loophole-and-why-it-matters/

[Snake]

On 12/23/2022 at 3:25 PM, Mainecat said:

Despite Musk's claims, there's no proof the FBI told Twitter to suppress Hunter Biden story (CNN)

 

I know this may be a lot to read, and will tax the ability of most of you libs to stay focused, but try to read it all.

If you have to go change a tampon or pick up your boyfriend from work, just come back to it later...
 

 

Emails released on Saturday as part of the latest dump of the “Twitter Files” reveal that the week before the 2020 presidential election, the FBI field office investigating Hunter Biden sent multiple censorship requests to Twitter — so many in fact, a top attorney for the tech giant found it “odd.” This blockbuster detail from the weekend came mere days after the FBI issued a statement framing coverage of the “Twitter Files” as “misinformation” being peddled by “conspiracy theorists.”

The FBI has “some folks in the Baltimore field office and at HQ that are just doing keyword searches for violations,” then-Twitter legal executive Stacia Cardille stressed in a Nov. 3, 2020, email to Jim Baker, the then-deputy general counsel for Twitter. “This is probably the 10th request I have dealt with in the last 5 days,” Cardille continued, before telling Baker to let her know if he had any other questions.” 

 

 

Less than an hour later, Baker responded to Cardille, noting it was “odd” that the FBI is “searching for violations of our policies.” 

Independent journalist Matt Taibbi published these emails as part of a 50-something Christmas Eve “Twitter Files” thread that he remarked showed “the FBI acting as doorman to a vast program of social media surveillance and censorship, encompassing agencies across the federal government – from the State Department to the Pentagon to the CIA.”

The entire thread is newsworthy, but that FBI agents in both the Baltimore field office and at FBI headquarters were running keyword searches for supposed Twitter violations proves hugely significant because both offices were involved in the Hunter Biden investigation. 

While the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office is — and was at the time of the 2020 election — handling the investigation into Hunter Biden, reportedly for potential money laundering and tax crimes, there is no separate Delaware FBI field office. Rather, the Baltimore FBI field office covers all of Delaware for the bureau and thus supported (and continues to support) the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office in its investigation of Hunter Biden. 

 

We also know from multiple FBI whistleblowers that FBI headquarters entangled itself in the Hunter Biden probe: In July 2022, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, announced that “multiple FBI whistleblowers, including those in senior positions,” had claimed that “in August of 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.”

“The FBI headquarters team allegedly placed their assessment findings in a restricted access subfolder, effectively flagging sources and derogatory evidence related to Hunter Biden as disinformation while shielding the justification for such findings from scrutiny,” according to Grassley.

Given the involvement of both Baltimore FBI and FBI headquarters in the investigation of Hunter Biden — and the latter’s attempt to shut down the probe — the revelation that “some folks in the Baltimore field office and at HQ” were “doing keyword searches for violations,” suggests the FBI undertook a full-court press to interfere in the 2020 election.

Previously released “Twitter Files” and statements from Twitter and Facebook established the FBI lied to the tech giants, representing the Hunter Biden laptop story as Russian disinformation and prompting the censorship of the Biden-family scandal mere weeks before the 2020 election. Internal Twitter communications also revealed that the night before the New York Post published emails from Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop that implicated Joe Biden in a pay-to-play scandal, “the FBI used a private communications channel to send 10 documents to a top Twitter executive.” 

 

The “Twitter Files” also exposed “Twitter’s contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary of the FBI,” as Taibbi explained in an earlier thread. The “Twitter Files” Taibbi previously reported showed that from “January 2020 to November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety Chief Yoel Roth.” Those communications indicated “agencies like the FBI and DHS regularly sending social media content to Twitter through multiple entry points, pre-flagged for moderation.”

These earlier threads, however, all focused on either communications coming from the San Francisco FBI field office or discussed the monthly and then weekly meetings between Twitter and the federal government’s Foreign Influence Task Force, or FITF. As Taibbi noted, the FBI greatly expanded the number of agents assigned to the FITF following the 2016 election, with the task force swelling to 80 agents.”

With FBI San Francisco and the FITF already liaisoning with Twitter, why then would the Baltimore field office and FBI headquarters have any involvement in communicating with Twitter? And as Saturday’s emails reveal, those officers were not merely passing on information they received, they were, according to a Twitter legal executive, running “keyword” searches — something even Baker, who was previously general counsel for the FBI, found “odd.” 

And the Baltimore field office and FBI headquarters conducted these “keyword” searches and shared the results with Twitter for one reason only: to prompt Twitter to censor the speech the week before the 2020 presidential election. 

“Odd” doesn’t even begin to capture the situation — which, given the connection between those two FBI offices and the Hunter Biden investigation, suggests a new wing to the Big Tech scandal: one in which FBI agents proactively sought out people and speech to censor for the benefit their politician of choice.

Ironically, the Wednesday before Taibbi broke this latest news, the FBI issued a statement claiming that “the correspondence between the FBI and Twitter show nothing more than examples of our traditional, longstanding and ongoing federal government and private sector engagements, which involve numerous companies over multiple sectors and industries. … It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.”

When the bureau’s own former general counsel calls the FBI’s conduct “odd,” it’s pretty clear who is discrediting the agency: It isn’t conspiracy theorists — it’s the FBI.

 

[Snake]

October, 2020...:

 

And, unfortunately, in this case, it is Adam Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, who, as you pointed out, said on Friday the intelligence community believes that Hunter Biden’s laptop and the emails on it are part of some Russian disinformation campaign. Let me be clear: The intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. We have shared no intelligence with chairman Adam Schiff or any other member of Congress that Hunter Biden’s laptop is part of some Russian disinformation campaign.

“It’s simply not true,” Ratcliffe said, continuing:

And this is exactly what I said I would stop when I became the director of National Intelligence, and that’s people using the intelligence community to leverage some political narrative. And in this case, apparently, chairman Schiff wants anything against his preferred political candidate to be deemed as “not real” and as using the intelligence community or attempting to use the intelligence community to say there’s nothing to see here. Don’t drag the intelligence community into this. Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign, and I think it’s clear that the American people know that.

[DriftBusta]

I hope they hang.

[racer254]

9 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

I hope they hang.

Nah, they will just become part of the 87,000 new IRS agents and then they can pressure any and all conservative non profits.

[DriftBusta]

Just now, racer254 said:

Nah, they will just become part of the 87,000 new IRS agents and then they can pressure any and all conservative non profits.

I know.     Heres to hoping    

[old indy]

2 hours ago, Snake said:

I know this may be a lot to read, and will tax the ability of most of you libs to stay focused, but try to read it all.

If you have to go change a tampon or pick up your boyfriend from work, just come back to it later...
 

 

Emails released on Saturday as part of the latest dump of the “Twitter Files” reveal that the week before the 2020 presidential election, the FBI field office investigating Hunter Biden sent multiple censorship requests to Twitter — so many in fact, a top attorney for the tech giant found it “odd.” This blockbuster detail from the weekend came mere days after the FBI issued a statement framing coverage of the “Twitter Files” as “misinformation” being peddled by “conspiracy theorists.”

The FBI has “some folks in the Baltimore field office and at HQ that are just doing keyword searches for violations,” then-Twitter legal executive Stacia Cardille stressed in a Nov. 3, 2020, email to Jim Baker, the then-deputy general counsel for Twitter. “This is probably the 10th request I have dealt with in the last 5 days,” Cardille continued, before telling Baker to let her know if he had any other questions.” 

 

 

Less than an hour later, Baker responded to Cardille, noting it was “odd” that the FBI is “searching for violations of our policies.” 

Independent journalist Matt Taibbi published these emails as part of a 50-something Christmas Eve “Twitter Files” thread that he remarked showed “the FBI acting as doorman to a vast program of social media surveillance and censorship, encompassing agencies across the federal government – from the State Department to the Pentagon to the CIA.”

The entire thread is newsworthy, but that FBI agents in both the Baltimore field office and at FBI headquarters were running keyword searches for supposed Twitter violations proves hugely significant because both offices were involved in the Hunter Biden investigation. 

While the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office is — and was at the time of the 2020 election — handling the investigation into Hunter Biden, reportedly for potential money laundering and tax crimes, there is no separate Delaware FBI field office. Rather, the Baltimore FBI field office covers all of Delaware for the bureau and thus supported (and continues to support) the Delaware U.S. Attorney’s Office in its investigation of Hunter Biden. 

 

We also know from multiple FBI whistleblowers that FBI headquarters entangled itself in the Hunter Biden probe: In July 2022, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, announced that “multiple FBI whistleblowers, including those in senior positions,” had claimed that “in August of 2020, FBI supervisory intelligence analyst Brian Auten opened an assessment, which was used by a team of agents at FBI headquarters to improperly discredit and falsely claim that derogatory information about Biden’s activities was disinformation, causing investigative activity and sourcing to be shut down.”

“The FBI headquarters team allegedly placed their assessment findings in a restricted access subfolder, effectively flagging sources and derogatory evidence related to Hunter Biden as disinformation while shielding the justification for such findings from scrutiny,” according to Grassley.

Given the involvement of both Baltimore FBI and FBI headquarters in the investigation of Hunter Biden — and the latter’s attempt to shut down the probe — the revelation that “some folks in the Baltimore field office and at HQ” were “doing keyword searches for violations,” suggests the FBI undertook a full-court press to interfere in the 2020 election.

Previously released “Twitter Files” and statements from Twitter and Facebook established the FBI lied to the tech giants, representing the Hunter Biden laptop story as Russian disinformation and prompting the censorship of the Biden-family scandal mere weeks before the 2020 election. Internal Twitter communications also revealed that the night before the New York Post published emails from Hunter Biden’s abandoned laptop that implicated Joe Biden in a pay-to-play scandal, “the FBI used a private communications channel to send 10 documents to a top Twitter executive.” 

 

The “Twitter Files” also exposed “Twitter’s contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary of the FBI,” as Taibbi explained in an earlier thread. The “Twitter Files” Taibbi previously reported showed that from “January 2020 to November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety Chief Yoel Roth.” Those communications indicated “agencies like the FBI and DHS regularly sending social media content to Twitter through multiple entry points, pre-flagged for moderation.”

These earlier threads, however, all focused on either communications coming from the San Francisco FBI field office or discussed the monthly and then weekly meetings between Twitter and the federal government’s Foreign Influence Task Force, or FITF. As Taibbi noted, the FBI greatly expanded the number of agents assigned to the FITF following the 2016 election, with the task force swelling to 80 agents.”

With FBI San Francisco and the FITF already liaisoning with Twitter, why then would the Baltimore field office and FBI headquarters have any involvement in communicating with Twitter? And as Saturday’s emails reveal, those officers were not merely passing on information they received, they were, according to a Twitter legal executive, running “keyword” searches — something even Baker, who was previously general counsel for the FBI, found “odd.” 

And the Baltimore field office and FBI headquarters conducted these “keyword” searches and shared the results with Twitter for one reason only: to prompt Twitter to censor the speech the week before the 2020 presidential election. 

“Odd” doesn’t even begin to capture the situation — which, given the connection between those two FBI offices and the Hunter Biden investigation, suggests a new wing to the Big Tech scandal: one in which FBI agents proactively sought out people and speech to censor for the benefit their politician of choice.

Ironically, the Wednesday before Taibbi broke this latest news, the FBI issued a statement claiming that “the correspondence between the FBI and Twitter show nothing more than examples of our traditional, longstanding and ongoing federal government and private sector engagements, which involve numerous companies over multiple sectors and industries. … It is unfortunate that conspiracy theorists and others are feeding the American public misinformation with the sole purpose of attempting to discredit the agency.”

When the bureau’s own former general counsel calls the FBI’s conduct “odd,” it’s pretty clear who is discrediting the agency: It isn’t conspiracy theorists — it’s the FBI.

 

MCs hands are currently busy...................................................

[Rod]

MC is an absolute retard 

[ActionfigureJoe]

Musk is losing. Quite sad to watch. 

[f7ben]

2 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

Musk is losing. Quite sad to watch. 

Sometime opposing fascists can cost a guy his place at their little table. 

[ArcticCrusher]

[Rod]

19 hours ago, f7ben said:

Sometime opposing fascists can cost a guy his place at their little table. 

Yup. Proof that just money doesn’t get you a seat at the table. You still have to March in lock step 

[ArcticCrusher]

Some understand.

Keep swallowing them blue pills.

 

 

 

[Mainecat]

3 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Some understand.

Keep swallowing them blue pills.

 

 

 

You drank Clorox just admit it.

[SnowRider]

1 hour ago, Mainecat said:

You drank Clorox just admit it.

Don’t forget the rectal light  

[Sleepr2]

7 hours ago, SnowRider said:

Don’t forget the rectal light  

[DriftBusta]

On 12/28/2022 at 10:31 AM, f7ben said:

“Traffic shaping” 

they’ve been doing this for a long time 

https://tcf.org/content/report/surveillance-without-borders-the-traffic-shaping-loophole-and-why-it-matters/

Good read btw