Why Toyota – the world’s largest automaker – isn’t all-in on electric vehicles

[Crnr2Crnr]

3 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

Hydrogen fuel cells for the win..

google me to your closest hydrogen refilling station

I have time

[Edmo]

8 minutes ago, SkisNH said:

Hydrogen fuel cells for the win..

I like the solid state battery idea. Better range and waaaay lighter than the batteries they use now. We’ll see this a couple years down the road.

[SkisNH]

3 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

google me to your closest hydrogen refilling station

I have time

Same could have been said electic stations....much better for the environment than mining lithium and refuels in mins like a gas car.

[Crnr2Crnr]

1 minute ago, SkisNH said:

Same could have been said electic stations....much better for the environment than mining lithium and refuels in mins like a gas car.

I'm not arguing, but I don't know where to get a hydrogen refill locally.... do you?  I know where the fast charge ev spots are... and hundreds of gas stations.

Problem america has is... We have no plans or defined direction

[SayatodaU.P.eh?]

27 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

I'm not arguing, but I don't know where to get a hydrogen refill locally.... do you?  I know where the fast charge ev spots are... and hundreds of gas stations.

Problem america has is... We have no plans or defined direction

Certain parts of America won’t see all this large scale EV push for quite a while, if ever. Most of the interest is on both coasts, west coast more so. 
 

While I’m no proponent for large scale, or even all in, EV, I think it does have its place. Also, I wasn’t around back in the early automotive days to know if they had all of the right plans or a defined direction. My guess is that all took a while. Same with the EV thing. HFC is a big play in all this and vehicle development on that sector is ramping up quickly. 

Edited September 15, 2022 by SayatodaU.P.eh?

[jdels]

12 hours ago, spin_dry said:

Toyota lost tons of ground on EV tech chasing the hydrogen powered dream of a CEO. They are coming from behind. 

Maybe not gasoline platforms but hydrogen is coming on strong in heavy duty diesel.  Give it about 4-5 years. 

[spin_dry]

1 hour ago, SkisNH said:

Hydrogen fuel cells for the win..

How do you propose to generate hydrogen? 

[Deephaven]

11 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

Hybrids make sense by 203??? 

Full EVs... not so much

Toyota/Lexus have successfully been in the hybrid game since 2005

My uncle bought the first gen RX400h when it came out, it was still on the road until May when my cousin's youngest daughter was hit in it. 

 

the 500h is a looker

https://www.lexus.com/models/LC-hybrid

This is shit:

• 354 TOTAL SYSTEM HORSEPOWER*
• 34 HWY MPG ESTIMATE*

 

I averaged 31mpg to Chicago going over 80 in an Audi V8T with no hybrid complexity.

[Badger**]

Now you're a car expert Goober?!?! 

[SkisNH]

7 hours ago, spin_dry said:

How do you propose to generate hydrogen? 

From all of the natural gas we use to power the country and heat our homes.

Or even better when we go full nuke we can do it with electricity. 

[EvilBird]

7 hours ago, Deephaven said:

This is shit:

• 354 TOTAL SYSTEM HORSEPOWER*
• 34 HWY MPG ESTIMATE*

 

I averaged 31mpg to Chicago going over 80 in an Audi V8T with no hybrid complexity.

Thats really good. My Pops sent me this last week when he was driving back from FL to CT in his C5 with a Magnuson. 29.5mpg.