Crnr2Crnr Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 Just now, mnstang said: If you can get the M with a 146 that would be what I'd want. twin rail ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: twin rail ftw My high country is a dedicated off trail sled and that's what I'd be replacing it for. I have zero use or desire for a crossover type of sled like the regular riot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, mnstang said: My high country is a dedicated off trail sled and that's what I'd be replacing it for. I have zero use or desire for a crossover type of sled like the regular riot. I know, remember when I found it at TSS? So you want an Alpha X-type or twin rail? Alpha makes sense for side hilling in powder... idk about around here as I'm a smooth groomed trail sally. Edited December 15, 2022 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: I know, remember when I found it at TSS? So you want an Alpha X-type or twin rail? Alpha makes sense for side hilling in powder... idk about around here as I'm a smooth groomed trail sally. No. I'm not that concerned if I have one rail or two. But the kind of sled I want will likely come with one. Like I said an off trail machine. Nothing about the 50/50 riot is what I want. Like I said off trail machine, narrow front, 2.25 lug or more, suspension geometry for OFF TRAIL. Everything off trail. Don't need a rear cooler either. If they continue with narrower body work on the m that would be fine too. A riot is basically just a trail sled with a 1.6 track that's not what I want. I'm not buying a sled for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, mnstang said: No. I'm not that concerned if I have one rail or two. But the kind of sled I want will likely come with one. Like I said an off trail machine. Nothing about the 50/50 riot is what I want. Like I said off trail machine, narrow front, 2.25 lug or more, suspension geometry for OFF TRAIL. Everything off trail. Don't need a rear cooler either. If they continue with narrower body work on the m that would be fine too. A riot is basically just a trail sled with a 1.6 track that's not what I want. I'm not buying a sled for you have you considered a new thundercat? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 9 hours ago, mnstang said: No. I'm not that concerned if I have one rail or two. But the kind of sled I want will likely come with one. Like I said an off trail machine. Nothing about the 50/50 riot is what I want. Like I said off trail machine, narrow front, 2.25 lug or more, suspension geometry for OFF TRAIL. Everything off trail. Don't need a rear cooler either. If they continue with narrower body work on the m that would be fine too. A riot is basically just a trail sled with a 1.6 track that's not what I want. I'm not buying a sled for you Does the riot x still have the wide front end on it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Not greg b said: Does the riot x still have the wide front end on it? It has the mountain spindles and uses a 40" ski stance. Same as my high country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, mnstang said: It has the mountain spindles and uses a 40" ski stance. Same as my high country so yay or nay on the mono rail? they should offer both imo. IDK, but my instincts would say nyet for Midwest riding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: so yay or nay on the mono rail? they should offer both imo. IDK, but my instincts would say nyet for Midwest riding. Dude I don't really care. I would not buy anything with that cross action skid that's in the riot that is for sure. I have no problem with my twin rail float action skid but that was replaced with the alpha rail. If I had to choose between the alpha rail and the float action rail that they no longer make, I'd go with alpha rail. But that's a dumb hypothetical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, mnstang said: If you can get the M with a 146 that would be what I'd want. That is the riot X. 13 hours ago, mnstang said: No. I'm not that concerned if I have one rail or two. But the kind of sled I want will likely come with one. Like I said an off trail machine. Nothing about the 50/50 riot is what I want. Like I said off trail machine, narrow front, 2.25 lug or more, suspension geometry for OFF TRAIL. Everything off trail. Don't need a rear cooler either. If they continue with narrower body work on the m that would be fine too. A riot is basically just a trail sled with a 1.6 track that's not what I want. I'm not buying a sled for you Except for the cooler, that is the riot X... 2.6" lug 39.5" to 41.5" ski stance https://arcticcat.txtsv.com/snowmobile/crossover/riot-x#specs Edited December 15, 2022 by krom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Just now, krom said: That is the riot X. Theres plenty of difference between the m and the riot x. Sway bar, 36" vs 40" front, rear cooler, electric start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 2 hours ago, mnstang said: It has the mountain spindles and uses a 40" ski stance. Same as my high country Yeah I haven’t kept up on the riots too much. They fall into the category of a sled I wouldn’t buy. I would go full blown M if was going need something to go some place a 137 inch trail sled can’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p51mstg Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Yeah I haven’t kept up on the riots too much. They fall into the category of a sled I wouldn’t buy. I would go full blown M if was going need something to go some place a 137 inch trail sled can’t I like my trail Riot, but in hindsight should've bought a ZR. On the other hand, if I'd gotten the ZR, I'd probably say the same thing about the Riot. When I was in to order it from the dealer, I said, yeah I sure like that Riot. He said, so order the Riot, then? I said, well, but I sure like the ZR, too. He said, so order the ZR? I just couldn't decide. However, I'm a 90% trail guy and there's nothing I would do that would exceed the capability of a 137 ZR. I got to ride the Alpha Riot on trails and it was actually pretty good - better than I expected. I thought it would be terrible in corners, and it's only marginal. Have never ridden an M, maybe I can arrange that this winter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 15, 2022 Author Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, mnstang said: Dude I don't really care. I would not buy anything with that cross action skid that's in the riot that is for sure. I have no problem with my twin rail float action skid but that was replaced with the alpha rail. If I had to choose between the alpha rail and the float action rail that they no longer make, I'd go with alpha rail. But that's a dumb hypothetical. relax Tony... here's some beta https://sleddermag.com/arctic-cat-catalyst-design-insight-engineering/ https://www.arcticinsider.com/sleddermag-com-catalyst-interview-with-andy-beavis/ Edited December 15, 2022 by Crnr2Crnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: relax Tony... here's some beta https://sleddermag.com/arctic-cat-catalyst-design-insight-engineering/ https://www.arcticinsider.com/sleddermag-com-catalyst-interview-with-andy-beavis/ Now I want one even more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 No more ass dragging 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Needs more bigger screen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 29, 2022 Author Share Posted December 29, 2022 14 hours ago, Not greg b said: No more ass dragging it is not an attractive sled from certain angles. congratulations Doo... we've entered your ugly competition 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cwhite138 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 11 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: it is not an attractive sled from certain angles. congratulations Doo... we've entered your ugly competition I feel it's pretty good looking from most angles? From pictures. Poo and doo currently have angles that make me puke a little in my mouth. The front bumper area from the angle above does weird me out a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palu49 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 One thing I can say after looking at the demo models in person is that color combinations definitely make this body style look really good or really bad. The RXC looked great, the red/orange riot was awful 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: it is not an attractive sled from certain angles. congratulations Doo... we've entered your ugly competition There is no angle that a G5 doo is better looking than a catalyst, its not even close.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Cwhite138 said: I feel it's pretty good looking from most angles? From pictures. Poo and doo currently have angles that make me puke a little in my mouth. The front bumper area from the angle above does weird me out a bit. the picture posted... not one of them 1 hour ago, krom said: There is no angle that a G5 doo is better looking than a catalyst, its not even close.... for the first season all the 600 catalyst rider is going to see is the taillight and snowflap of the 850 SkiDouche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: the picture posted... not one of them for the first season all the 600 catalyst rider is going to see is the taillight and snowflap of the 850 SkiDouche Where? On a lake maybe. Whoopee ding dong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 7 hours ago, mnstang said: Where? On a lake maybe. Whoopee ding dong. lake, rail bed, while sitting in a trailer or bar parking lot you know, where it matters to hyper sled owners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted December 30, 2022 Gold Member Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 hours ago, Palu49 said: One thing I can say after looking at the demo models in person is that color combinations definitely make this body style look really good or really bad. The RXC looked great, the red/orange riot was awful Wasnt a fan either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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