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6 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

figure those that are lead around by the nose based on media scare stories would chime in and tell us about all the black outs.


Still no blackouts and plenty of capacity.  Real time demand and consumption.

https://www.caiso.com/TodaysOutlook/Pages/default.aspx

Of course there's no blackouts. People were told not to charge their EVs.

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34 minutes ago, Snake said:

Do you know if you sit on your hands for 15 minutes, then post, it feels like some one else is making you look stupid...

Smart fucker thought of another reason to do this,I only heard of 1 reason before :lol:

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10 hours ago, Steve753 said:

Of course there's no blackouts. People were told not to charge their EVs.

:lol:

He's not the sharpest knife in the drawer...:lol:

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LA Times

California power officials put out a plea: Shut it down at 4 p.m. to protect the grid

 
 
Doug Smith
Sat, September 3, 2022 at 4:30 PM
 
 
A blazing sun silhouettes power lines inLong Beach Saturday.
 
Power lines in Long Beach. During a Flex Alert, consumers are asked to conserve energy from 4 to 9 p.m., hours when the grid is most stressed. (Luis Sinco / Los Angeles Times)

Facing a dire forecast of record heat continuing through midweek, a state power official asked the public to observe a Flex Alert that was issued Saturday and extended into Sunday, the fifth consecutive day.

The alternative could be rolling blackouts, said Elliot Mainzer, president and chief executive of the California Independent System Operator, which manages the power grid.

During a Flex Alert, consumers are asked to conserve energy from 4 to 9 p.m., hours when the grid is most stressed.

"When we're in a situation like this, where we're right up against the margin of system capability and you have the kinds of threats to reliability from fires and generation plants coming off line, that consumer flexible demand, that response, can be the difference between the lights staying on or not," Mainzer said during a briefing organized Saturday morning by the state Office of Emergency Services.

Power demand Thursday evening reached its highest level since September 2017, he said.

Multiple generators have been forced out of service due to the extreme heat, making energy supplies tighter. Grid operators are also watching at least two major wildfires threatening transmission lines and power plants in the Los Angeles and San Diego areas.

"These last few days are likely to be a dress rehearsal for what's going to be a considerably more stressed set of conditions as we get into the heart of the weekend," Mainzer said.

The hottest temperatures are still ahead, National Weather Service emergency response specialist Sarah Rogowski said in Saturday's briefing.

Rogowski said record to near-record temperatures were expected early to midweek, in the 80s and 90s along the coast and 100 to 115 in the Central Valley and inland regions of Southern California.

"We are looking at temperatures 10 to 25 degrees above normal for this time of year," Rogowski said. Those will be compounded by unusually high overnight temperatures up to the 90s in some areas of Southern California.

"We're not getting that overnight relief," she said.

Relief will come starting Thursday in the north and then Thursday afternoon and early Friday in Southern California, Rogowski said. Even then, temperatures will remain above normal.

Due to the elevated heat and dryness, California fire officials are positioning forces to respond quickly to new fires or battle a major blaze, said Chris Anthony, chief deputy director of the state Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

"The hottest and driest days are still ahead of us," Anthony said. "The extreme heat coupled with this persistent drought we're in, as well as the bone dry vegetation, really make for the perfect ingredients for rapid fire spread."

Anthony said there are 4,346 firefighters assigned to active fires in California. Progress made on the Route fire in Castaic, which has burned more than 5,000 acres since Wednesday but was listed as 71% contained Saturday, will allow resources to be drawn to other parts of the state.

In Southern California, temperatures were approaching records midday Saturday in the Antelope Valley and western San Fernando Valley, and slightly higher temperatures were predicted for Sunday, National Weather Service forecaster Kristen Stewart said.

Saturday's high temperatures reached 98 degrees in downtown Los Angeles, 104 in Pasadena, 106 in Van Nuys and 107 in Santa Clarita.

Lancaster was measuring 106 degrees at 12:30, two degrees below the record for the day. Woodland Hills, also at 106, was still well below its record of 114 degrees but was forecast to reach 113 on Sunday.

Along the coast, UCLA reached 90 by midday and Long Beach 97, both several degrees below their records.

Southern California Edison was experiencing an unusual number of heat-related power outages but has been able to restore power quickly, spokesman Ben Gallagher said. Because of the heat, crews were put on standby, equipment was stockpiled and regular maintenance was postponed, he said.

"We're continuing to encourage our customers to conserve," he said.

Californians are strongly urged to lower electricity use by setting thermostats to 78 or higher, health permitting, avoiding use of major appliances, and turning off all unnecessary lights, officials said.

Mark Ghilarducci, director of the Office of Emergency Services, advised the public to stay indoors as much as possible and to use shopping centers or public cooling centers as refuge if outdoors. The locations of 122 cooling centers in Los Angeles County are mapped on the county's website.

This story originally appeared in Los Angeles Times.

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On 9/2/2022 at 11:19 PM, BOHICA said:

Tesla owners dumping huge amounts of electricity into the grid at times of need.   Numbers are growing on the amount of VPP keeping the lights on.

 

https://electrek.co/2022/09/02/tesla-virtual-power-plant-growing/

I call bullshit . In metro MN less than 8% of the tesla charger installs by the tesla recommended electrical contractor opt for the ability to back feed the home . And from what I gather most of those already have a NG genset in place so most of the work has been done .my electrical contractor is that contractor we speak regularly 

Convince me LA would be diff ? 

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1 hour ago, Ez ryder said:

I call bullshit . In metro MN less than 8% of the tesla charger installs by the tesla recommended electrical contractor opt for the ability to back feed the home . And from what I gather most of those already have a NG genset in place so most of the work has been done .my electrical contractor is that contractor we speak regularly 

Convince me LA would be diff ? 

Tesla’s VPP is powerwall owners.  Nothing to do with EV’s.  Tesla power wall owners charge there powerwalls during the day off Solar.  When utilities need to lower the load on the grid they buy power at $2 a kwh from the powerwall owner.  This is brand new and beta program…. But as it stands Tesla has 50 mwh worth of powerwall owners selling electricity.

 

Distributed generation/grid sources is a much  easier and efficient compared to one large generation source

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Just now, BOHICA said:

Tesla’s VPP is powerwall owners.  Nothing to do with EV’s.  Tesla power wall owners charge there powerwalls during the day off Solar.  When utilities need to lower the load on the grid they buy power at $2 a kwh from the powerwall owner.  This is brand new and beta program…. But as it stands Tesla has 50 mwh worth of powerwall owners selling electricity.

 

Distributed generation/grid sources is a much  easier and efficient compared to one large generation source

You know how we know you’re gay?

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5 minutes ago, awful knawful said:

He drives an ev. And has to make sure everyone knows he drives an ev? 🤷

Seems like something a Weiner kisser would do.

Oh yeah. Vegans of the car world 

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Sounds lovely... you have a battery to power your home when a problem occurs... then realize the power company stole all your power prior to the grid calfing.

But hey.... you made $30-$40 in the sale.... to buy gas for the genny..... :lol:

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21 minutes ago, Snake said:

Sounds lovely... you have a battery to power your home when a problem occurs... then realize the power company stole all your power prior to the grid calfing.

But hey.... you made $30-$40 in the sale.... to buy gas for the genny..... :lol:

$30 a day is $10,950 a year.

you set the limits on what the power company draws.

 

but you do bring up an interesting point….  One of those little inverter gas generators will  generate 7 or so kwhs on regular gas….  Or $14 dollars worth if you sell it to a California power company…. You may just have to run that generation from a gas generator through Tesla’s powerwall

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43 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

$30 a day is $10,950 a year.

you set the limits on what the power company draws.

 

but you do bring up an interesting point….  One of those little inverter gas generators will  generate 7 or so kwhs on regular gas….  Or $14 dollars worth if you sell it to a California power company…. You may just have to run that generation from a gas generator through Tesla’s powerwall

Riiiiighht. Because power companies already have the capability to turn peoples power demands down over just Wi-Fi thermostats that they sell these schmucks. What makes you think they won’t drain your power bank whenever the fuck they need to, whether you like it or not? 

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a camel's nose (under the tent) A small, seemingly innocuous act or decision that will lead to much larger, more serious, and less desirable consequences down the line. The term refers to an alleged Arab proverb that if a camel is allowed to get its nose inside of a tent, it will be impossible to prevent the rest of it from entering.

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