Utilities have no plans to change course on ditching coal

[BOHICA]

Supreme Court’s EPA decision will have little effect on utility move away from coal-fired plants: analysts
 

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/supreme-court-epa-coal-utility-renewable-climate/626833/
“Coal prices have risen significantly this year and while renewables costs have also increased, solar, wind, and storage are more economic than coal in most of the country and continue to offer utilities an extremely attractive value proposition: lower customer rates, lower emissions, and higher earnings,” the Morgan Stanley analysts said.

Edited July 9, 2022 by BOHICA

[Mainecat]

Let’s see a huge stinking power plant that we have to truck in fuel from dirty dusty mines 24/7

OR

Do we install solar panel arrays that are quiet require no 34/7 feeding, and never emit pollution?

Gee which way do we go?

[Doug]

1 hour ago, BOHICA said:

Supreme Court’s EPA decision will have little effect on utility move away from coal-fired plants: analysts
 

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/supreme-court-epa-coal-utility-renewable-climate/626833/
“Coal prices have risen significantly this year and while renewables costs have also increased, solar, wind, and storage are more economic than coal in most of the country and continue to offer utilities an extremely attractive value proposition: lower customer rates, lower emissions, and higher earnings,” the Morgan Stanley analysts said.

 

1 hour ago, Mainecat said:

Let’s see a huge stinking power plant that we have to truck in fuel from dirty dusty mines 24/7

OR

Do we install solar panel arrays that are quiet require no 34/7 feeding, and never emit pollution?

Gee which way do we go?

I see the band is back together 

 

[BOHICA]

Looks like China is done with US coal as well

 

China’s coal imports from the United States were 2 million metric tons in the first half of 2022, a decline of 67 percent compared to over 6 million metric tons of coal China imported from the U.S. in the same period last year. Coal shipments from the U.S. Gulf Coast to China slumped by 71 percent year over year to 800,000 tons between January and June, DBX data quoted by Argus showed.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Chinese-Imports-Of-US-Coal-Collapse-By-67.html

[Jimmy Snacks]

Nothing wrong with coal IMO….I don’t know the specifics of the technology and just how clean they can make the emissions but we have an abundance and it provides good paying jobs in mining and shipping…jus sayin.

[Anler]

6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Nothing wrong with coal IMO….I don’t know the specifics of the technology and just how clean they can make the emissions but we have an abundance and it provides good paying jobs in mining and shipping…jus sayin.

Also probably not in any utilities best interest to invest in new tech until a long term plan is established. 

[Jimmy Snacks]

Just now, Anler said:

Also probably not in any utilities best interest to invest in new tech until a long term plan is established. 

True…it’s the same with oil companies and exploration.

[Anler]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

True…it’s the same with oil companies and exploration.

Yeah and they are making a killing now so why? 

[X2700]

This!!!

[Jimmy Snacks]

13 minutes ago, X2700 said:

This!!!

Where are you located? 

[Carlos Danger]

9 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Let’s see a huge stinking power plant that we have to truck in fuel from dirty dusty mines 24/7

OR

Do we install solar panel arrays that are quiet require no 34/7 feeding, and never emit pollution?

Gee which way do we go?

Yea solar panels that will make it all better. You have the luxury of having a mid size coal scrubber plant powering your daily life there in NH.

[Carlos Danger]

8 hours ago, Anler said:

Also probably not in any utilities best interest to invest in new tech until a long term plan is established. 

The rules and regs make it near impossible to open a new plant of just about any kind. 

[Rod]

Natural gas is more competitive 

[Anler]

14 minutes ago, ACE said:

Natural gas is more competitive 

I know they were building a natural gas power plant in eastern Ohio because my brother in law was working on the pipeline

[X2700]

44 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Where are you located? 

Redwing Mn

Praire Island nuke plant.

 

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MIT scientists think they’ve discovered how to fully reverse climate change

 

 

Joshua Hawkins

Sat, July 9, 2022 at 1:08 PM

 

 

 

Scientists at MIT think they may have finally found a way to reverse climate change. Or, at the least, help ease it some.

The idea revolves heavily around the creation and deployment of several thin film-like silicon bubbles. The “space bubbles” as they refer to them, would be joined together like a raft. Once expanded in space it would be around the same size as Brazil. The bubbles would then provide an extra buffer against the harmful solar radiation that comes from the Sun.

 

Could space bubbles reverse climate change?

 

space bubbles in front of sun, MIT concept

The goal with these new “space bubbles” would be to ease up or even reverse climate change. The Earth has seen rising temperatures over the past several centuries. In fact, NASA previously released a gif detailing how the global temperature has changed over the years. Now, we’re seeing massive “mouths to hell” opening in the permafrost.

There’s also the fact that scientists just discovered yet another hole in the Earth’s ozone layer. As such, finding ways to ease or reverse climate change continues to be a high priority for many. This new plan is based on a concept first proposed by astronomer Roger Angel. Angel originally suggested using a “cloud” of small spacecraft to shield the Earth from the Sun’s radiation.

Researchers at MIT have taken that same basic concept and improved it, though, by changing out inflatable silicon bubbles for the spacecraft that Angel originally proposed. Being able to reverse climate change would be a huge step in the right direction. Shielding the Earth from the Sun’s radiation would only be one part of it, though. We’d still need to cut down on other things, too.

How will bubbles shield the Earth?

 

space bubble raft could reverse climate change

But how exactly what a “raft” of space bubbles shield Earth from the Sun’s radiation? Well, the basic idea requires sending the bubbles to the L1 Lagrangian Point. This is the location directly between the Earth and the Sun where gravity from both our star and our planet cancels out. As such, the space bubbles would theoretically be able to just float without much pull from either body.

The researchers say we’d probably still need to put some kind of spacecraft out there to help keep things on track. But, it could give us a good chance at reversing climate change, or at least slowing down the changes. It is important to note that MIT does not view this as an alternative solution to our current adapt and mitigate efforts. Instead, it’s a backup solution meant to help if things spin out of control.

[Rod]

Space bubbles sounds like what occupies the void in MC’s head 

[Carlos Danger]

52 minutes ago, ACE said:

Natural gas is more competitive 

Natural gas turbines are about the only thing that has been built in the last 15+ years. 

[Jimmy Snacks]

38 minutes ago, X2700 said:

Redwing Mn

Praire Island nuke plant.

 

Right on…Big Rock Point was on Lake Michigan and it’s gone now but when I was in HS we could drive down to it and fish in the warm water discharge…no worries, no problems.

[X2700]

14 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

Right on…Big Rock Point was on Lake Michigan and it’s gone now but when I was in HS we could drive down to it and fish in the warm water discharge…no worries, no problems.

Yep guys fish all year round!

I’ve seen guys headed down with boat in middle of winter.

[Doug]

[Skidooski]

12 hours ago, Mainecat said:

Let’s see a huge stinking power plant that we have to truck in fuel from dirty dusty mines 24/7

OR

Do we install solar panel arrays that are quiet require no 34/7 feeding, and never emit pollution?

Gee which way do we go?

 

[Ez ryder]

14 hours ago, BOHICA said:

Supreme Court’s EPA decision will have little effect on utility move away from coal-fired plants: analysts
 

https://www.utilitydive.com/news/supreme-court-epa-coal-utility-renewable-climate/626833/
“Coal prices have risen significantly this year and while renewables costs have also increased, solar, wind, and storage are more economic than coal in most of the country and continue to offer utilities an extremely attractive value proposition: lower customer rates, lower emissions, and higher earnings,” the Morgan Stanley analysts said.

That is exactly what Germany said . Lol guess that plan did not work out 

[Ez ryder]

13 hours ago, BOHICA said:

Looks like China is done with US coal as well

 

China’s coal imports from the United States were 2 million metric tons in the first half of 2022, a decline of 67 percent compared to over 6 million metric tons of coal China imported from the U.S. in the same period last year. Coal shipments from the U.S. Gulf Coast to China slumped by 71 percent year over year to 800,000 tons between January and June, DBX data quoted by Argus showed.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Chinese-Imports-Of-US-Coal-Collapse-By-67.html

So where are they buying it from now ? China has not stoped burning or building coal plants . Go look in to why China had to reduce the amout of coal America sold them . Has nothing to do with there need for the product.  

[Ez ryder]

3 hours ago, X2700 said:

Yep guys fish all year round!

I’ve seen guys headed down with boat in middle of winter.

Same yr round fishing  with the st cloud nuclear and the  becker coal . Aka the future googel server site your storage will some say be powered by a old coal turbine