Ben Stiller meets with Zelenskyy in Kyiv, tells Ukrainian leader 'You're my hero'

[Skidooski]

3 hours ago, Mainecat said:

This bothers you so much you start a thread?

Why does this even matter to you?

 

[ViperGTS/Z1]

56 minutes ago, EvilBird said:

He has never been spot on about anything ....

The Dude voted for Joe Biden 

Nobody with a functioning brain does that. 

That dirty Jersey water is getting to You. 

81 million people did

Even though I have well water that has tested very clean, I still drink bottled water. Which is likely more contaminated....little guy.

[Snake]

18 hours ago, Highmark said:

Damn must be some war when you have time to meet with Hollywood "celebs" that want to pat you on the back and pad your ego.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ben-stiller-meets-zelenskyy-ukraine-refugees-rcna34472

If you need one more example of why to say fuck Ukraine, you need your head stomped.

[ViperGTS/Z1]

54 minutes ago, Highmark said:

After the fall of the Soviet Union NATO continued to fuck with Russia.  Right or wrong this caused the govt of Russia to keep portraying to the people that the west was still the enemy isolating them.  Yes Putin shares in the blame but one must still look at how the NATO members for decades after the fall still called them the enemy and still continued to advance on them in a so called "defensive" posture.  It takes two to tangle and all sides here are guilty.  No country in the world would put up with this including the US.   

That's a smorgasbord of BS right there.... Putin is looking to take back territory that he feels is rightfully his even though it isn't.....end of story.

Peter the Great outlines this as he identifies

 The Nazi, Nato excuse is a farce.... now NATO is even stronger with Finland and Sweden joining ...Bravo Putin..

Now he may actually have something to complain about NATO

[Anler]

1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

 

Someone is watching too much CNN.

With all of the celebrities showing up for this war its almost like one of ours. 

[Anler]

35 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

That's a smorgasbord of BS right there.... Putin is looking to take back territory that he feels is rightfully his even though it isn't.....end of story.

Peter the Great outlines this as he identifies

 The Nazi, Nato excuse is a farce.... now NATO is even stronger with Finland and Sweden joining ...Bravo Putin..

Now he may actually have something to complain about NATO

The Minsk accords Ukraine agreed to stop attacking the Donbass, they didnt. Russia went in to save them. Russia has issued almost a million passports for them. 

On a side note Ukrainian forces just retreated from their last occupation in Donbass. Mission failed. Country is now a failed state. Great job Nazis!

[Rod]

14 minutes ago, Anler said:

The Minsk accords Ukraine agreed to stop attacking the Donbass, they didnt. Russia went in to save them. Russia has issued almost a million passports for them. 

On a side note Ukrainian forces just retreated from their last occupation in Donbass. Mission failed. Country is now a failed state. Great job Nazis!

Like that US general said. Russia will be able to hold the east side as long as they want 

[akvanden]

7 hours ago, Highmark said:

After the fall of the Soviet Union NATO continued to fuck with Russia.  Right or wrong this caused the govt of Russia to keep portraying to the people that the west was still the enemy isolating them.  Yes Putin shares in the blame but one must still look at how the NATO members for decades after the fall still called them the enemy and still continued to advance on them in a so called "defensive" posture.  It takes two to tangle and all sides here are guilty.  No country in the world would put up with this including the US.   

Put up with that exactly? NATO hasn't infringed on any Russian land, threatened to, or annexed any of it's territory. Russia on the otherhand....

This is conflict 101. Of course there are two sides to every story, of course we both push on eachother as superpowers do. We froze Japan's assets and stopped oil exports to them pre Pearl Harbor attack. I suppose we are equally as guilty of the events on Dec 7th?

Russia blinked. They were unprepared. They didn't need to invade Ukraine. It's super nice of them to cleanse the country of Nazi's, but Ukraine was no threat to them, just like Sweden and Finland will be no threat, that is unless Russia find's another country they need to cleanse/annex/whatever BS.

When all is said and done, no matter what amount of Ukrainian territory Russia ends up with, this will go down as a collosal and costly misstep on their part that will set them back decades. And the amount of apologists and pro-appeasment stances on this site is truly strange. 12M people have been displaced because of Russia and people are more concerned about their gas prices. 

 

 

Appreciate the actual response though vs the standard 7th grade 'you're an idiot' reply as provided by others. 

[ArcticCrusher]

24 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Put up with that exactly? NATO hasn't infringed on any Russian land, threatened to, or annexed any of it's territory. Russia on the otherhand....

This is conflict 101. Of course there are two sides to every story, of course we both push on eachother as superpowers do. We froze Japan's assets and stopped oil exports to them pre Pearl Harbor attack. I suppose we are equally as guilty of the events on Dec 7th?

Russia blinked. They were unprepared. They didn't need to invade Ukraine. It's super nice of them to cleanse the country of Nazi's, but Ukraine was no threat to them, just like Sweden and Finland will be no threat, that is unless Russia find's another country they need to cleanse/annex/whatever BS.

When all is said and done, no matter what amount of Ukrainian territory Russia ends up with, this will go down as a collosal and costly misstep on their part that will set them back decades. And the amount of apologists and pro-appeasment stances on this site is truly strange. 12M people have been displaced because of Russia and people are more concerned about their gas prices. 

 

 

Appreciate the actual response though vs the standard 7th grade 'you're an idiot' reply as provided by others. 

Turn off cnn dude 

[Rod]

23 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Turn off cnn dude 

He can’t and won’t. Total moron. 

[spin_dry]

54 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Put up with that exactly? NATO hasn't infringed on any Russian land, threatened to, or annexed any of it's territory. Russia on the otherhand....

This is conflict 101. Of course there are two sides to every story, of course we both push on eachother as superpowers do. We froze Japan's assets and stopped oil exports to them pre Pearl Harbor attack. I suppose we are equally as guilty of the events on Dec 7th?

Russia blinked. They were unprepared. They didn't need to invade Ukraine. It's super nice of them to cleanse the country of Nazi's, but Ukraine was no threat to them, just like Sweden and Finland will be no threat, that is unless Russia find's another country they need to cleanse/annex/whatever BS.

When all is said and done, no matter what amount of Ukrainian territory Russia ends up with, this will go down as a collosal and costly misstep on their part that will set them back decades. And the amount of apologists and pro-appeasment stances on this site is truly strange. 12M people have been displaced because of Russia and people are more concerned about their gas prices. 

 

 

Appreciate the actual response though vs the standard 7th grade 'you're an idiot' reply as provided by others. 

Japan had every right to attack Pearl Harbor. The denial of the truths astounding. The  fuckery FDR played on the Japanese was criminal piracy. 

[akvanden]

1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Turn off cnn dude 

I don’t watch much live TV other than sports, but since you’re a stereotyping broken record, I’ll oblige if you can turn off Twitter. Consider it a 90 day cleanse. 
 

Edited July 7, 2022 by akvanden

[ViperGTS/Z1]

15 hours ago, akvanden said:

Put up with that exactly? NATO hasn't infringed on any Russian land, threatened to, or annexed any of it's territory. Russia on the otherhand....

This is conflict 101. Of course there are two sides to every story, of course we both push on eachother as superpowers do. We froze Japan's assets and stopped oil exports to them pre Pearl Harbor attack. I suppose we are equally as guilty of the events on Dec 7th?

Russia blinked. They were unprepared. They didn't need to invade Ukraine. It's super nice of them to cleanse the country of Nazi's, but Ukraine was no threat to them, just like Sweden and Finland will be no threat, that is unless Russia find's another country they need to cleanse/annex/whatever BS.

When all is said and done, no matter what amount of Ukrainian territory Russia ends up with, this will go down as a collosal and costly misstep on their part that will set them back decades. And the amount of apologists and pro-appeasment stances on this site is truly strange. 12M people have been displaced because of Russia and people are more concerned about their gas prices. 

 

 

Appreciate the actual response though vs the standard 7th grade 'you're an idiot' reply as provided by others. 

Another quality,well thought out, well expressed post that has the usual minions scratching their heads with nothing of substance to say..

[X2700]

Could of all been avoided with the right leaders at the helm!!!

[toslow]

49 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Another quality,well thought out, well expressed post that has the usual minions scratching their heads with nothing of substance to say..

Seriously well thought out, dude did you at least graduate grade 7?

show me something in that post that just nothing but words strung  together with nothing being said 

Edited July 8, 2022 by toslow

[Anler]

15 hours ago, akvanden said:

Put up with that exactly? NATO hasn't infringed on any Russian land, threatened to, or annexed any of it's territory. Russia on the otherhand....

This is conflict 101. Of course there are two sides to every story, of course we both push on eachother as superpowers do. We froze Japan's assets and stopped oil exports to them pre Pearl Harbor attack. I suppose we are equally as guilty of the events on Dec 7th?

Russia blinked. They were unprepared. They didn't need to invade Ukraine. It's super nice of them to cleanse the country of Nazi's, but Ukraine was no threat to them, just like Sweden and Finland will be no threat, that is unless Russia find's another country they need to cleanse/annex/whatever BS.

When all is said and done, no matter what amount of Ukrainian territory Russia ends up with, this will go down as a collosal and costly misstep on their part that will set them back decades. And the amount of apologists and pro-appeasment stances on this site is truly strange. 12M people have been displaced because of Russia and people are more concerned about their gas prices. 

 

 

Appreciate the actual response though vs the standard 7th grade 'you're an idiot' reply as provided by others. 

You lost it in the first sentence. All NATO does is militarize countries on the border of Russia with billions (probably trillions) of dollars worth of weapons pointed at Russia and that isn't a threat? 

Then they sponsor a coup of the democratically elected govt of Ukraine and immediately ban everything Russian and express to join NATO which would put billions more weapons on the border? Everyone who knows anything about geopolitics knew that was going to be the lynch pin for Russia to act. This was not just an act of aggression on the part of Russia. This was the plan. 

[ArcticCrusher]

7 minutes ago, Anler said:

You lost it in the first sentence. All NATO does is militarize countries on the border of Russia with billions (probably trillions) of dollars worth of weapons pointed at Russia and that isn't a threat? 

Then they sponsor a coup of the democratically elected govt of Ukraine and immediately ban everything Russian and express to join NATO which would put billions more weapons on the border? Everyone who knows anything about geopolitics knew that was going to be the lynch pin for Russia to act. This was not just an act of aggression on the part of Russia. This was the plan. 

You forget you are conversing with a moron.

[ViperGTS/Z1]

29 minutes ago, X2700 said:

Could of all been avoided with the right leaders at the helm!!!

Nope....Russia had this all planned out for months in advance. Loading up their military at Ukraine border. There was no stopping Putin, it was his way or the highway.  Ukraine chose not to fold and give away territory rightfully theirs. Now Putin may gain some pulverized concrete at the cost of tens of thousands of his troops and heavy losses of equipment. And that still is not guaranteed by any stretch.

[Highmark]

16 hours ago, akvanden said:

Put up with that exactly? NATO hasn't infringed on any Russian land, threatened to, or annexed any of it's territory. Russia on the otherhand....

This is conflict 101. Of course there are two sides to every story, of course we both push on eachother as superpowers do. We froze Japan's assets and stopped oil exports to them pre Pearl Harbor attack. I suppose we are equally as guilty of the events on Dec 7th?

Russia blinked. They were unprepared. They didn't need to invade Ukraine. It's super nice of them to cleanse the country of Nazi's, but Ukraine was no threat to them, just like Sweden and Finland will be no threat, that is unless Russia find's another country they need to cleanse/annex/whatever BS.

When all is said and done, no matter what amount of Ukrainian territory Russia ends up with, this will go down as a collosal and costly misstep on their part that will set them back decades. And the amount of apologists and pro-appeasment stances on this site is truly strange. 12M people have been displaced because of Russia and people are more concerned about their gas prices. 

 

 

 

Appreciate the actual response though vs the standard 7th grade 'you're an idiot' reply as provided by others. 

Here we go again.

In 1991-1994 when the Soviet Union it was supposedly promised that NATO would not expand eastward towards their borders.   While this is disputed it makes sense given the circumstances at the time.  The west was trying to bring a more open, democratic Russia into the "west."  Continued expansion of NATO both to the east and around Europe would obviously have a continued feeling of conflict between the dozens of NATO countries and their basically their SOLE counterpart Russia.   Lets face it we don't line up arms around all the other countries left in what was once the Warsaw pact. 

Whether or not this promise happened this aggressive "defensive" (  ) move would obviously continue the hostile relationship.   While I'm not saying Russian actions didn't play a part in NATO's expansion it obviously did not help in the already strained relationship.   There is a great article how Russian leaders then continued to isolate the Russian people from further westernization and how little has changed regarding the feeling of Russian people that its them against the west.

You also can't be so naïve to think NATO has done nothing against Russia beyond expansion.   They waged their own sort of proxy war against Russia.   Again right or wrong it can be easily seen by them as NATO being the aggressor.   No different than some US actions in the ME.  One has to look at it from both sides openly to understand what is going on.   It takes two to tangle.

The fact is NATO countries ARE involved in a proxy war with Russia right now.   Whether or not Russia expansion into Ukraine was justifiable, NATO countries are supplying a non-NATO country with arms that are killing Russian soldiers.  The US is outraged when Iran or whomever did this to our soldiers so its easy to see how Russia must feel the same way.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/42896937

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/19/two-maps-show-natos-growth-and-russias-growing-isolation-since-1990.html

Edited July 8, 2022 by Highmark

[X2700]

Could of been avoided long before that!

sure May of cost us some cash but wouldn’t of had millions displaced.

the us military knows exactly how strong of a force Russia was,

we can pick a person off the street in Moscow without leaving the comforts of us shores but we didn’t know how strong there military really was?

we know but powers to be love war and conflicts!war is $$$$$$$$$$.Lockheed Martin loving it!!!!

 

 

[Rod]

4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Here we go again.

In 1991-1994 when the Soviet Union it was supposedly promised that NATO would not expand eastward towards their borders.   While this is disputed it makes sense given the circumstances at the time.  The west was trying to bring a more open, democratic Russia into the "west."  Continued expansion of NATO both to the east and around Europe would obviously have a continued feeling of conflict between the dozens of NATO countries and their basically their SOLE counterpart Russia.   Lets face it we don't line up arms around all the other countries left in what was once the Warsaw pact. 

Whether or not this promise happened this aggressive "defensive" (  ) move would obviously continue the hostile relationship.   While I'm not saying Russian actions didn't play a part in NATO's expansion it obviously did not help in the already strained relationship.   There is a great article how Russian leaders then continued to isolate the Russian people from further westernization and how little has changed regarding the feeling of Russian people that its them against the west.

You also can't be so naïve to think NATO has done nothing against Russia beyond expansion.   They waged their own sort of proxy war against Russia.   Again right or wrong it can be easily seen by them as NATO being the aggressor.   No different than some US actions in the ME.  One has to look at it from both sides openly to understand what is going on.   It takes two to tangle.

The fact is NATO countries ARE involved in a proxy war with Russia right now.   Whether or not Russia expansion into Ukraine was justifiable, NATO countries are supplying a non-NATO country with arms that are killing Russian soldiers.  The US is outraged when Iran or whomever did this to our soldiers so its easy to see how Russia must feel the same way.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/42896937

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/19/two-maps-show-natos-growth-and-russias-growing-isolation-since-1990.html

You’re arguing with a guy that still believes in collusion and that everyone is going to die from a cold unless every person alive takes his covid communion 

[ViperGTS/Z1]

3 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Here we go again.

In 1991-1994 when the Soviet Union it was supposedly promised that NATO would not expand eastward towards their borders.   While this is disputed it makes sense given the circumstances at the time.  The west was trying to bring a more open, democratic Russia into the "west."  Continued expansion of NATO both to the east and around Europe would obviously have a continued feeling of conflict between the dozens of NATO countries and their SOLE counterpart Russia. 

Whether or not this promise happened this aggressive "defensive" (  ) move would obviously continue the hostile relationship.   While I'm not saying Russian actions didn't play a part in NATO's expansion it obviously did not help in the already strained relationship.   There is a great article how Russian leaders then continued to isolate the Russian people from further westernization and how little has changed regarding the feeling of Russian people that its them against the west.

You also can't be so naïve to think NATO has done nothing against Russia beyond expansion.   They waged their own sort of proxy war against Russia.   Again right or wrong it can be easily seen by them as NATO being the aggressor.   No different than some US actions in the ME.  One has to look at it from both sides openly to understand what is going on.   It takes two to tangle.

The fact is NATO countries ARE involved in a proxy war with Russia right now.   Whether or not Russia expansion into Ukraine was justifiable, NATO countries are supplying a non-NATO country with arms that are killing Russian soldiers.  The US is outraged when Iran or whomever did this to our soldiers so its easy to see how Russia must feel the same way.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/42896937

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-shifrinson-russia-us-nato-deal--20160530-snap-story.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/19/two-maps-show-natos-growth-and-russias-growing-isolation-since-1990.html

Well....Putins strategy sure paid off....Finland and Sweden have now also jumped aboard to bully Russia in the future......830 miles of Finnish border. LMAO....most of any Nato country. Hope they have every mile with artillery aimed at Russia

[Highmark]

8 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Well....Putins strategy sure paid off....Finland and Sweden have now also jumped aboard to bully Russia in the future......830 miles of Finnish border. LMAO....most of any Nato country. Hope they have every mile with artillery aimed at Russia

Yes and Iran just joined the Shanghai Coop Organization with many more likely to join soon.  At least 4 of those members are nuclear powers.   China, Russia, India and Pakistan.  

This is setting up a bad scenario with so many countries in each organization that one mistake could trigger a world war and will only enhance military spending for long, long into the future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghai_Cooperation_Organisation

 

Edited July 8, 2022 by Highmark

[spin_dry]

36 minutes ago, Anler said:

You lost it in the first sentence. All NATO does is militarize countries on the border of Russia with billions (probably trillions) of dollars worth of weapons pointed at Russia and that isn't a threat? 

Then they sponsor a coup of the democratically elected govt of Ukraine and immediately ban everything Russian and express to join NATO which would put billions more weapons on the border? Everyone who knows anything about geopolitics knew that was going to be the lynch pin for Russia to act. This was not just an act of aggression on the part of Russia. This was the plan. 

What's wrong with that plan? It's been used by the Russians for a century. NATO is simply taking a page out of their play book and bending it around with more finesse, technology, and money. 

[akvanden]

46 minutes ago, Anler said:

You lost it in the first sentence. All NATO does is militarize countries on the border of Russia with billions (probably trillions) of dollars worth of weapons pointed at Russia and that isn't a threat? 

No shit? You're telling me that a defensive alliance must have weapons? NATO hasn't once in the past 70 years preemptively used them against Russia. And Russia's borders are already weaponized.

1 hour ago, Anler said:

Then they sponsor a coup of the democratically elected govt of Ukraine and immediately ban everything Russian and express to join NATO which would put billions more weapons on the border? Everyone who knows anything about geopolitics knew that was going to be the lynch pin for Russia to act. This was not just an act of aggression on the part of Russia. This was the plan.

Well if that was the plan as you say, then I guess the strategic planning paid off, because Russia blinked. Setting Russia back militarily and economically for decades to come through a proxy war without one US soldier lost is a success, regardless of how much of Ukraine Russia ends up with. Sweden and Finland will now join and NATO still won't be a preemptive threat for another 70 years to come. 

 

How do we get China to sign up for a similar plan?