Snake Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, akvanden said: Stop following the government/MSM. Follow the major medical institutions. How can I follow the medical institutions when any of the medical institutions that have a negative or unflattering view of the situation is muzzled by the government? How can the average person make an informed decision when the only information they get has been run through the censorship mill? Being led is fun, huh? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Bontz said: As I figured, you continue to miss the point and only hear what you want to hear. Most people who've had COVID are logical enough to know they don't need the jab. Kapeesh? If a person hasn't had it yet, it's their choice to roll the dice and deal with a bad cold (majority of people) and obtain NAB's ... or take the jab. And unlike you, I don't preach to them to go one way or the other ... it's THEIR choice, not yours. Most people aren’t medical experts, even though the well known medical experts/institutions are still recommending they get the vaccine even with prior infection. Look no further than the ratio of vaccinated to unvaccinated in the hospital to prove that point. it is your choice, but when people are promoting “you don’t need the vaccine, just get yourself some natural antibodies” people need to realize 1 in 4 have long term side effects and that currently 10,000 patients in Texas and 15,000 in Florida thought they didn’t need the vaccine either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Snake said: How can I follow the medical institutions when any of the medical institutions that have a negative or unflattering view of the situation is muzzled by the government? How can the average person make an informed decision when the only information they get has been run through the censorship mill? Being led is fun, huh? What well respected major medical has been muzzled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, akvanden said: What well respected major medical has been muzzled? It’s the individuals with and in the know that have been “muzzled” but, I’m not going to convince you. Nobody is because, it would make you admit you were mislead and you panicked in your own fear. I get it, I wouldn’t want to admit it either. I find it’s best just not to let it happen though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 14, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, akvanden said: What well respected major medical has been muzzled? Isn't the term "well respected" an opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Isn't the term "well respected" an opinion? Use the term “major” then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Zambroski said: It’s the individuals with and in the know that have been “muzzled” but, I’m not going to convince you. Nobody is because, it would make you admit you were mislead and you panicked in your own fear. I get it, I wouldn’t want to admit it either. I find it’s best just not to let it happen though. Judging by the vaccinated to unvaccinated in the hospital at the moment, seems to have been an ok choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just now, akvanden said: Judging by the vaccinated to unvaccinated in the hospital at the moment, seems to have been an ok choice. It’s an “ok” choice. It’s up to the individual though. You say you don’t care but, you sure seem like you are trying so hard to convince others that you made the right choice. Why? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: It’s an “ok” choice. It’s up to the individual though. You say you don’t care but, you sure seem like you are trying so hard to convince others that you made the right choice. Why? This .... this right here ^^^ Mr. SJW and Pro-Jabber gets on his soapbox daily, and fails to realize .... you are not going to convince anyone here - we're all capable of making a choice for ourselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Zambroski said: It’s an “ok” choice. It’s up to the individual though. You say you don’t care but, you sure seem like you are trying so hard to convince others that you made the right choice. Why? Look in the mirror, you started this thread. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bontz said: This .... this right here ^^^ Mr. SJW and Pro-Jabber gets on his soapbox daily, and fails to realize .... you are not going to convince anyone here - we're all capable of making a choice for ourselves. It’s a bizarre human trait to need validation from complete strangers. I never really understood it. It’s the “my kid is an honor student at….” bumper sticker syndrome. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, akvanden said: Look in the mirror, you started this thread. Why? Another way to keep the ones wanting to make it a personal choice to sound off. Those of you needing everyone to comply are just here searching for accolades for thinking you know what’s best for everyone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 14, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 14, 2021 10 minutes ago, akvanden said: Use the term “major” then. That also would be an opinion. Realistically I can post stuff that fits my opinion and you will say is not respected. You can post stuff from one of your sources and I will do the same..In the end it's my body an my choice..Just like yours is too..So that's the end of the story...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, akvanden said: Look in the mirror, you started this thread. Why? OMG ... this comment makes the creation of the thread that much more FUNNY coming from a jab nazi!!! Are you FULLY vaccinated??? Nope - not without the third jab, or the fourth, or the fifth, or the ... need I continue??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 14, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bontz said: This .... this right here ^^^ Mr. SJW and Pro-Jabber gets on his soapbox daily, and fails to realize .... you are not going to convince anyone here - we're all capable of making a choice for ourselves. I like the term pro-vax lecturers.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, akvanden said: What well respected major medical has been muzzled? How would one know if they are censored? Are you saying Twitter, Facebook, all the media idiots don't censor based on what information the media chooses to believe? I never see anyone fight so hard to stick the ring in their own noses..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: That also would be an opinion. Realistically I can post stuff that fits my opinion and you will say is not respected. You can post stuff from one of your sources and I will do the same..In the end it's my body an my choice..Just like yours is too..So that's the end of the story...... Employee size or amount of patients cared for in a year isn’t an opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, akvanden said: Employee size or amount of patients cared for in a year isn’t an opinion. Goal post movement alert. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Another way to keep the ones wanting to make it a personal choice to sound off. Those of you needing everyone to comply are just here searching for accolades for thinking you know what’s best for everyone. Oh, ok. I can see the difference now. Marginalizing the vaccine, masks, peoples choice to use them, “sheep,” is just your way of promoting personal choice. Meanwhile, me refuting what some post is me shamming and forcing vaccines upon you. It all makes sense now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Goal post movement alert. How would you define major? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 14, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, akvanden said: Employee size or amount of patients cared for in a year isn’t an opinion. Is that what I replied to?? You said use the term "major", your opinion of something being "major" source of information IE big pharma, big hospital, big government is not something I consider a good source of info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rigid1 said: Is that what I replied to?? You said use the term "major", your opinion of something being "major" source of information IE big pharma, big hospital, big government is not something I consider a good source of info This doesn’t need to be so difficult. I say we’ll respected medical institutions (that do their own independent research) to steer you away from your MSM/government/pharma rants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 The truth of the matter is there is no “You will never get sick again” pill or jab. There will be a new variant around the next corner, we all know it’s coming with the latest Covid stories. Is there a new variant to the chicken pox?? Nope - I’ve never heard of one in my 50+ years of science. So comparing a chicken pox vaccine to the next Covid shot is not a valid comparison. I’m going to keep living my life as I want. If someone requires me to get something I don’t want, I won’t go there, plain and simple. There’s lots of freedom out there, I prefer to live in it than someplace that doesn’t have it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, akvanden said: Oh, ok. I can see the difference now. Marginalizing the vaccine, masks, peoples choice to use them, “sheep,” is just your way of promoting personal choice. Meanwhile, me refuting what some post is me shamming and forcing vaccines upon you. It all makes sense now. Do you feel “marginalized”? Why? Do you feel weak and “sheep”-like? Why? Do you feel obligated for others to make sure you aren’t seen that way? Why? You know, this isn’t a healthy trait to need others to be convinced of your personal choices. 31 minutes ago, akvanden said: How would you define major? Large, significant. But, I can’t even see the goal post now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 14, 2021 Author Share Posted August 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, Mag6240 said: The truth of the matter is there is no “You will never get sick again” pill or jab. There will be a new variant around the next corner, we all know it’s coming with the latest Covid stories. Is there a new variant to the chicken pox?? Nope - I’ve never heard of one in my 50+ years of science. So comparing a chicken pox vaccine to the next Covid shot is not a valid comparison. I’m going to keep living my life as I want. If someone requires me to get something I don’t want, I won’t go there, plain and simple. There’s lots of freedom out there, I prefer to live in it than someplace that doesn’t have it. Bee Eye Enn Gee Oh!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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