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https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/09/poll-covid-wuhan-lab-leak-49884

Even most Democrats now agree it leaked from a lab.

Most Americans now believe that the coronavirus leaked from a laboratory in China, according to a new POLITICO-Harvard poll that found a dramatic shift in public perception of Covid-19’s origins over the last year.

U.S. adults were almost twice as likely to say the virus was the result of a lab leak in China than human contact with an infected animal, which many scientists believe is the most likely scenario. The poll's findings show what was once a fringe belief held mainly among some on the political right has become accepted by most Republicans, as well as most Democrats, amid heightened scrutiny of the lab leak theory.

The absence of a large partisan gap on the issue is particularly striking, said Robert Blendon, a professor of health policy and political analysis at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health who designed the poll.

“Usually, our polls find a big split between Republicans and Democrats, so this is unique,” he said. “More conservative media have been carrying the ‘lab leak’ issue, and it’s been a Trump talking point from the beginning, so we expected people who lean Democratic would say either ‘It’s not true’ or ‘I don’t know.’ But the belief is bipartisan.”

Blendon said Democrats likely became more receptive to the idea after President Joe Biden’s recent order that intelligence agencies investigate the virus’ origin and comments from Anthony Fauci, the White House chief medical officer, that it's worth digging into. Fauci and other scientists have cautioned the answer may never be known definitively.

“That the president thought there was enough evidence to ask intelligence agencies to put together a report sends a signal to Democrats that there might be something there,” Blendon said.

Democratic lawmakers have also faced pressure to look more closely at the lab leak scenario, though they worry Republicans will stoke uncertainty about the virus origin for political gain. Several congressional committees have launched inquiries, and the House Science Committee plans to hold its first hearing on the issue next week.

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I don’t know if this has never been the case with most Americans.  China is suspect….and that is that.

What is weird is how DC and their media ignore it like it was African gun violence in Chicago or something.

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1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

The only real question here is whether it was accidental or intentional?  And that is a big one.

And we'll never find out with Dems/Liberals in charge, guaranteed. 

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42 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said:

In my opinion................................intentional release. 

Agree with it coming from lab, but if intentional, why not just release it in the US?

I think more than likely they’re idiots with shitty protocols, similar to their shoddy products, and it was an accident.

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48 minutes ago, akvanden said:

Agree with it coming from lab, but if intentional, why not just release it in the US?

I think more than likely they’re idiots with shitty protocols, similar to their shoddy products, and it was an accident.

Probably because this way they had an EXCUSE. Wuhan market bullshit, Wuhan Lab Accident. 

If they released it directly into the US, and we found out, it could bring a world war. 

The fact they won't allow FULL INVESTIGATION, speaks volumes.

They still killed our people, and destroyed our lives.

Germany just sued them for billions.

Almost doesn't matter if accident or not, they hurt us. 

Did you see some of the comments Xi Xinping has made lately?

" WE WILL BASH OUR ENEMIES HEADS AGAINST THE STEEL WALLS "

" WE WILL BOMB JAPAN INTO OBLIVION " 

 

Does that sound like a good, friendly ASIAN???

He was Donny Flair's " friend ". 

Shyna, is nothing but big trouble on the horizon. 

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It was intentional, and done because of the TRADE DEAL, Trump fucked them over with. 

It was a ONE HUNDRED YEAR PANDEMIC, that started within weeks of the trade deal.

 

COINCIDENCE??? I don't think so. 

Just my .02c.  

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They killed the shit out of us, and what price has Shyna paid?  NONE!!!! 

We have a klunk for a president, and a smelly gash for VP.

The country is dangerously divided.

We have prosecutions of our national leaders.

 

I'd say Shyna accomplished its goal. 

 

 

                                                      "  Divide and Conquer "            

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9 hours ago, akvanden said:

Agree with it coming from lab, but if intentional, why not just release it in the US?

I think more than likely they’re idiots with shitty protocols, similar to their shoddy products, and it was an accident.

The answer to your question is simple.   Would China care killing off some of their citizens to make it look natural or even lab leaked?   If it only showed up in foreign countries it would be incredibly obvious and an act of war.

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The whole investigation into its origins is a joke.   We had phase I trials going on within a few months and we are now 18+ months into it and they don't know the origins?  Fucking bullshit. 

 

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15 minutes ago, Highmark said:

The answer to your question is simple.   Would China care killing off some of their citizens to make it look natural or even lab leaked?   If it only showed up in foreign countries it would be incredibly obvious and an act of war.

That does sound simple.

 

Although if COVID just shows up at LAX, not sure how simple that would be to track it down. Or showed up a bat cave site......

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6 minutes ago, akvanden said:

That does sound simple.

 

Although if COVID just shows up at LAX, not sure how simple that would be to track it down. Or showed up a bat cave site......

Well if there were zero infections from the host country it would be pretty obvious for a virus supposedly as infectious as this.  Person goes straight from the wet market or wherever to the airport and jumps on an international flight?   Yeah right pull this leg and it will play jingle bells. (Extra credit for getting the 80's movie reference.)

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24 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Well if there were zero infections from the host country it would be pretty obvious for a virus supposedly as infectious as this.  Person goes straight from the wet market or wherever to the airport and jumps on an international flight?   Yeah right pull this leg and it will play jingle bells. (Extra credit for getting the 80's movie reference.)

I wasn't aware they could ID it to a host country. How would they know if it manifested in "bats" in China or in the US?

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18 minutes ago, akvanden said:

I wasn't aware they could ID it to a host country. How would they know if it manifested in "bats" in China or in the US?

Well they've been telling us the bat it came from (rather lab or market) was specific to one bat in one cave or region in China.   Ever heard of DNA?  :lol:  

This cave complex they said was like 600 miles from Wuhan.  :lol:  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/to-the-bat-cave-in-search-of-covid-s-origins-scientists-reignite-polarizing-debate-on-wuhan-lab-leak/ar-AAKcj71

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Well they've been telling us the bat it came from (rather lab or market) was specific to one bat in one cave or region in China.   Ever heard of DNA?  :lol:  

This cave complex they said was like 600 miles from Wuhan.  :lol:  

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/to-the-bat-cave-in-search-of-covid-s-origins-scientists-reignite-polarizing-debate-on-wuhan-lab-leak/ar-AAKcj71

I have heard of DNA, still wasn't aware they could pinpoint the location. Again, I do think it leaked from the lab, just on accident most likely. Happy to change my mind though as more and more evidence comes out. Either way, China needs to be held accountable. :bc:

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I read that they can find NO ZOO-OTIC connection, with this virus. In other words, this virus had no animal origin. 

No bat, no pangolin. 

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2 minutes ago, akvanden said:

I have heard of DNA, still wasn't aware they could pinpoint the location. Again, I do think it leaked from the lab, just on accident most likely. Happy to change my mind though as more and more evidence comes out. Either way, China needs to be held accountable. :bc:

From what I recall the virus still retains some DNA of the host animal(s) and even bats of the same general family often have region specific types.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_bat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_rufous_horseshoe_bat

Couldn't agree more on holding China accountable because rather natural by nature, lab leaked or intentionally released China restricted travel within their own country but let their citizens fly all over the world.

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Why now???

 

Why now, an ACCIDENTAL RELEASE of a deadly, 100 year pandemic?

Have you seen how Xi Xinping  is acting now??? His true colors are showing! Trump said he was a friend. I don't know too many friends that want to break my skull against a steel wall.

Why hasn't Shyna allowed a FULL INVESTIGATION....FROM DAY ONE!!!!!!!!!

Have you guys ever watched " Chinas Army-Daft Punk " on Youtube?????  WATCH IT, then tell me what you think. 

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19 hours ago, Zambroski said:

I don’t know if this has never been the case with most Americans.  China is suspect….and that is that.

What is weird is how DC and their media ignore it like it was African gun violence in Chicago or something.

Ignore it? They literally did everything they could to squash all talk about it. Speaks VOLUMES. Why would our own country try to hide this information from us? Why were we founding research in that lab? 

18 hours ago, irv said:

And we'll never find out with Dems/Liberals in charge, guaranteed. 

We will most likely never find out, period. 

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