Rod Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 New Mach z — cool only 180 hp. 30 hp short. Not cool trail sleds still on basic XP chassis from 08– not cool regular turbo detuned to 130 hp—- wtf? Likely even a smaller turbo still haven’t ditched the DBW throttle. Not cool. mediocre release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadaBing444 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) I'm pretty disapointed in the release for my own reasons. I know they upgraded the suspension and skis, but the sleds look no different from the 2017 models. Still no LED headlights, better track options and the bugs need to be worked out on their new gauge. I will just keep my 19 for another year, and maybe they will make the changes I'm looking for next year. Edited February 17, 2021 by BadaBing444 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, ACE said: New Mach z — cool only 180 hp. 30 hp short. Not cool trail sleds still on basic XP chassis from 08– not cool regular turbo detuned to 130 hp—- wtf? Likely even a smaller turbo still haven’t ditched the DBW throttle. Not cool. mediocre release Its a cable throttle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, Anler said: Its a cable throttle. Ace is pretty dumb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, awful knawful said: Ace is pretty dumb The dumbest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, ACE said: New Mach z — cool only 180 hp. 30 hp short. Not cool trail sleds still on basic XP chassis from 08– not cool regular turbo detuned to 130 hp—- wtf? Likely even a smaller turbo still haven’t ditched the DBW throttle. Not cool. mediocre release The Yamacat engine is rated at 180 too.... I know it's more than that, but who knows what the Mach will actually be? The previous 900T is only supposed to be 150 but it performs better than that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 40 minutes ago, Anler said: Its a cable throttle. No it’s not it’s a cable to a block and then still DBW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 18 minutes ago, awful knawful said: Ace is pretty dumb Wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 16 minutes ago, Anler said: The dumbest Turns out that’s you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 hour ago, ACE said: New Mach z — cool only 180 hp. 30 hp short. Not cool trail sleds still on basic XP chassis from 08– not cool regular turbo detuned to 130 hp—- wtf? Likely even a smaller turbo still haven’t ditched the DBW throttle. Not cool. mediocre release ur a moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, Angry ginger said: ur a moron No but you are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsky Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just buy a new Cat that's still the same sled - only slower and even less reliable - than a 2011. The all new tech from Cat for 2022? Power steering on the thunder-winder and still trying to convince buyers that the 800 is a 165 class engine...... fucking stick a fork in Cat. Now we know why there was no snowmageddon last fall. Would start a thread titled "My thoughts on the 2022 Cat release" but why even bother???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, jdsky said: Just buy a new Cat that's still the same sled - only slower and even less reliable - than a 2011. The all new tech from Cat for 2022? Power steering on the thunder-winder and still trying to convince buyers that the 800 is a 165 class engine...... fucking stick a fork in Cat. Now we know why there was no snowmageddon last fall. Would start a thread titled "My thoughts on the 2022 Cat release" but why even bother???? still no new chassis or 850 2S for cats ? so cats are running another year for procross ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Ski doo is still on the same chassis since 08 so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Renegade with the 130hp would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 So are a set of notched weights a lot cheaper if you want launch control 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, awful knawful said: Renegade with the 130hp would be nice I had one a 600 with 125hp, it was nice. Much nicer than a heavier turbo 4s sled that makes the same power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 hours ago, ACE said: Ski doo is still on the same chassis since 08 so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: It's similar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Fireball 440 said: I had one a 600 with 125hp, it was nice. Much nicer than a heavier turbo 4s sled that makes the same power. I want a four stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, awful knawful said: I want a four stroke. A used 1200 with exhaust and clutching and a fuel controller and you're all set for 150 hp, without the turbo bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: A used 1200 with exhaust and clutching and a fuel controller and you're all set for 150 hp, without the turbo bullshit. Better to let cudney massage your ecm....fuel controller fights with the ecm to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdsky Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Fireball 440 said: A used 1200 with exhaust and clutching and a fuel controller and you're all set for 150 hp, without the turbo bullshit. I put four seasons on my 16' 1200 in the XS chassis and really liked it but one test ride on the 900T in the G4 chassis and it's better in every way. I also followed the journey of the Canadian that put over 20K miles on his 19' 900T the first season with zero issues. The 900T has been proven over and over as a rock solid reliable motor on dirt, asphalt, water and snow. You can get an NA 1200 to 150 in the way you stated but you cannot get it to 190HP plus as easily and cheaply as you can with the 900T. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireball 440 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dave said: Better to let cudney massage your ecm....fuel controller fights with the ecm to much. Warm temps 30+ degrees my sled will backfire on decell. 3 minutes ago, jdsky said: I put four seasons on my 16' 1200 in the XS chassis and really liked it but one test ride on the 900T in the G4 chassis and it's better in every way. I also followed the journey of the Canadian that put over 20K miles on his 19' 900T the first season with zero issues. The 900T has been proven over and over as a rock solid reliable motor on dirt, asphalt, water and snow. You can get an NA 1200 to 150 in the way you stated but you cannot get it to 190HP plus as easily and cheaply as you can with the 900T. I believe everything you just said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted February 18, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, awful knawful said: Renegade with the 130hp would be nice I was all set to buy the regular 900 for the wife now I'm thinking the 130 version would be nicer. $1500 premium in the Enduro but I'm think that is the way to go. My buddy likes to go out a couple times a year with me and I'm sure he'd prefer the 130. If I like it it may be my next sled too. I love my turbo Cat but the big motor thing is starting to wear thin with me. I need a ride review on that 130. Only worry is the touch throttle I hear about on the 900T. Edited February 18, 2021 by Blackstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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